Avengers 3 Arriving Early? Captain America: Civil War Reveals Plot And Cast

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Avengers 3 Arriving Early? Captain America: Civil War Reveals Plot And Cast

Captain America Civil War

Captain America: Civil War has just begun production - which means new details on the plot and cast list have been revealed.

WARNING: The following includes very minor spoilers of the final scene in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Captain America: Civil War is set to be the next big game changer of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The problem is while we know it will turn Cap and Iron Man against each other - and introduce Martin Freeman as an undisclosed character - we have very few details about what to expect. Thankfully, that Civil War has begun production and made one thing very clear: This will be a massive undertaking that brings together characters from almost every Marvel Studios franchise to date. It might as well be called Avengers 3 at this point.

First, the plot itself: After the events of Age of Ultron, Steve Rogers is in charge of a new Avengers team that defends humanity. But when the Avengers are tied to an international incident causing collateral damage, a new governing body steps in to manage the team - including determining when they can be deployed. That new status quo causes the Avengers to fracture, just as a new villain enters the scene who takes advantage of the chaos.

Considering this new film was already based on the Civil War comic, we already knew the basic framework of the story. But what's surprising is Civil War's scope: This movie is bringing in a who's-who of Marvel Studios veterans.

To start, Chris Evans, Robert Downey Jr., and Scarlett Johansson will reprise their respective roles as Captain America, Iron Man, and Black Widow. Next up is the new Avengers team, which features Elizabeth Olsen as Scarlet Witch, Anthony Mackie as Falcon, Paul Bettany as The Vision, and everyone you saw in Ultron's final scenes. Then there's Paul Rudd, fresh off his debut in Ant-Man, appearing alongside the team. Chadwick Boseman will make his first appearance as the Black Panther for Civil War, leading into his own film. This movie will even mark the return of William Hurt as General Ross - last seen nursing a drink and his pride in The Incredible Hulk.

The last movie to shake-up the entire Marvel status quo like this was Captain America: Winter Soldier, also directed by Joe and Anthony Russo. Based on the premise and full cast list, Civil War is in a strong position to raise that bar even higher. The finished film will reach theaters on May 6, 2016.

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People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

Johnny Novgorod:
People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

That's because Whedon made SHIELDs downfall totally pointless by basically bringing them back so the Avengers get to save everyone again and not face a tough, morally ambiguous decision. Hell, he even admitted he didn't like the fact SHIELD was destroyed in WS so he retconned it back in the most ass pullish way possible.

ekrolo2:

Johnny Novgorod:
People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

That's because Whedon made SHIELDs downfall totally pointless by basically bringing them back so the Avengers get to save everyone again and not face a tough, morally ambiguous decision. Hell, he even admitted he didn't like the fact SHIELD was destroyed in WS so he retconned it back in the most ass pullish way possible.

...except SHIELD has already been brought back by the TV show. SHIELD was revamped under Coulson and given a more public persona. It's just that the Avengers is now a separate entity to SHIELD rather than a part of it.

Also, IT'S A GODDAMN SUPER-HERO MOVIE! DOING THE IMPOSSIBLE IS LITERALLY IN THE TITLE! I'm sorry, but I enjoy it when super heroes can actually GET to be superheroes over them being "super-serious" and thinking that blood, guts, and "kill them all" is mature. And in case you forgot, The Winter Soldier also had Captain America save everyone in the end. Didn't see people complaining then. But wait, it's popular to despise Joss Whedon right now, isn't it?

xaszatm:

ekrolo2:

Johnny Novgorod:
People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

That's because Whedon made SHIELDs downfall totally pointless by basically bringing them back so the Avengers get to save everyone again and not face a tough, morally ambiguous decision. Hell, he even admitted he didn't like the fact SHIELD was destroyed in WS so he retconned it back in the most ass pullish way possible.

...except SHIELD has already been brought back by the TV show.

Just goes to show Winter Soldier was no game-changer.

Why do I get a feeling that the post credit scene in Ant-man will be he get an invitation to joined the new Avengers? Also I want to predit that the Black Panther cameo could be he will give sanctum to Steve when the going get tough.

Johnny Novgorod:

xaszatm:

ekrolo2:

That's because Whedon made SHIELDs downfall totally pointless by basically bringing them back so the Avengers get to save everyone again and not face a tough, morally ambiguous decision. Hell, he even admitted he didn't like the fact SHIELD was destroyed in WS so he retconned it back in the most ass pullish way possible.

...except SHIELD has already been brought back by the TV show.

Just goes to show Winter Soldier was no game-changer.

Well, it seemed like Nick Fury had to go a few months without owning a Helicarrier
It must have been rough for him...

If there was one good thing I could say about Avengers 2, it's that it did a nice job at setting Captain America and Iron Man at odds against each other.
I can't stand when sequels have characters at each others throats after one event that is small in comparison to what happened near the end of the previous movie. At least Avengers 2 it was at that Tony does something stupid, behind almost everyone else's back, and then does it again, once more behind almost everyone else's back, hoping for a different result.
So now even the thickest audience member will have seen(hopefully) that Steve isn't happy with the decisions Tony has made recently.

DrownedAmmet:

Johnny Novgorod:

xaszatm:

...except SHIELD has already been brought back by the TV show.

Just goes to show Winter Soldier was no game-changer.

Well, it seemed like Nick Fury had to go a few months without owning a Helicarrier
It must have been rough for him...

Well, we did get a year long war in the shadows between Shield and Hydra where both factions where recovering from the decapitation (both literal and metaphorical) of their chain of command.

I mean lets face it, Shield was going to reform itself no matter what happened after Winter Soldier due to its nature coupled with the fact it's needed more then ever before. It's just operating out of the shadows now instead of out of a very public skyscraper in DC.

Scarim Coral:
Why do I get a feeling that the post credit scene in Ant-man will be he get an invitation to joined the new Avengers? Also I want to predit that the Black Panther cameo could be he will give sanctum to Steve when the going get tough.

I read Martin Freeman is playing a Black Panther baddy called Everett K. Ross. Though no idea who he is. But this does confirm, if true, that Black Panther is in the movie. An should be more than a cameo. :-)

Zontar:

DrownedAmmet:

Johnny Novgorod:

Just goes to show Winter Soldier was no game-changer.

Well, it seemed like Nick Fury had to go a few months without owning a Helicarrier
It must have been rough for him...

Well, we did get a year long war in the shadows between Shield and Hydra where both factions where recovering from the decapitation (both literal and metaphorical) of their chain of command.

I mean lets face it, Shield was going to reform itself no matter what happened after Winter Soldier due to its nature coupled with the fact it's needed more then ever before. It's just operating out of the shadows now instead of out of a very public skyscraper in DC.

Actually, I haven't watched SHIELD season 2 yet, so it might have been covered there. Wish I knew of a way to get caught up on Season 2 without paying a ton of money for it...

Wow that's a pretty big line up.

But i'm confused...I thought Civil war was one team going up against another, so here is me expecting pretty much everyone (spiderman, thor, some new ones) but all it is here is the new avengers team splitting up with as few more extra's?

That's good, dont get me wrong, suppose i was just hoping it was a bigger scale to really shake the MCU.

Will the events of Civil war carry on into the new Avengers or will everyone of made up by then? xD

I just wonder who is going to cause said collateral damage. Also, I reaaaalllly hope that reality TV is in no way involved.

ekrolo2:

Johnny Novgorod:
People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

That's because Whedon made SHIELDs downfall totally pointless by basically bringing them back so the Avengers get to save everyone again and not face a tough, morally ambiguous decision. Hell, he even admitted he didn't like the fact SHIELD was destroyed in WS so he retconned it back in the most ass pullish way possible.

don't blame the continuity for your lack of due diligence. shield was never destroyed. watch AoS.

OT: i'm disappointed that Daredevil isn't showing up. Daredevil was an awesome show.

Dying_Jester:
If there was one good thing I could say about Avengers 2, it's that it did a nice job at setting Captain America and Iron Man at odds against each other.
I can't stand when sequels have characters at each others throats after one event that is small in comparison to what happened near the end of the previous movie. At least Avengers 2 it was at that Tony does something stupid, behind almost everyone else's back, and then does it again, once more behind almost everyone else's back, hoping for a different result.
So now even the thickest audience member will have seen(hopefully) that Steve isn't happy with the decisions Tony has made recently.

not even just the decisions, but it seemed like the whole movie, those two were having personality clashes as well. it was something that the movie did VERY well. they were subtly butting heads the whole time, with more subtext than just playful ribbing.

The thing I have really enjoyed about this seasons SHIELD is you see the beginnings of the super hero registration act (or whatever they are going to call it). You can see with all the need to "index" enhanced people. I am really looking forward to Cap3 because I want to see that smug little bitch Tony Stark get his ass handed to him. It would be best if it were Thor though, just like in the comics.

I still think Civil War is a mistake. They already tackled two of the major themes of the original story:

- Tony Stark's hubris (Age of Ultron)
- Patriot Act Allegory (Winter Soldier)

Turning Cap's 3rd movie into another Avengers movie just seem wrong to me, idk. I would have preferred another Brubaker-style action/spy movie with Cap, Black Widow, Falcon and Agent 13 looking for Bucky. Maybe use Zemo as the villain or someone and bring whatshisname back as Crossbones.

Spaceman Spiff:
I just wonder who is going to cause said collateral damage. Also, I reaaaalllly hope that reality TV is in no way involved.

Maybe they're going to address all the damage Hulk cause when they were in Johannesburg plus the utter destruction of Sokovia. Who knows what other cities and nations were decimated as a result?

Johnny Novgorod:

xaszatm:

ekrolo2:

That's because Whedon made SHIELDs downfall totally pointless by basically bringing them back so the Avengers get to save everyone again and not face a tough, morally ambiguous decision. Hell, he even admitted he didn't like the fact SHIELD was destroyed in WS so he retconned it back in the most ass pullish way possible.

...except SHIELD has already been brought back by the TV show.

Just goes to show Winter Soldier was no game-changer.

Yeah, so far unless it involves finding an Infinity Stone or the first Avengers movie, the movies aren't making much of a scratch on their own canon. Winter Soldier in particular left next to no trace on it except making Agents of Shield season 2 a bit better and introducing Falcon/Bucky being alive. Ironman 3 is still the chief offender of changing absolutely nothing, though.

EDIT: Also, 'collateral damage'? I counted Korea getting pretty badly messed up, the African city getting pretty badly damaged and Sokovia LITERALLY ANNIHILATED. BY THOR AND IRONMAN. I mean, shit, SHIELD already has the index, what is there even to register? Just re-instate SHIELD? Im kinda looking forward to the movie but it's gonna have to be a bit... different.

I kind of thought that it would be a given that this movie was going to be a "mini-Avengers" of sorts. Would not be much of a "war" otherwise, though I suppose there still aren't enough characters to bring it to the proportions of the comic. Not that I'm complaining; I think I could do with the conflict being more narrowly focused in the movie.

I believe it was already brought up that secret identities aren't really a thing in the MCU, and SHIELD is more or less transparent (kinda sorta, haven't been keeping up with Agents of Shield) after what happened in Winter Soldier - the conflict will be more about superhero accountability than anything. Which after the Hulk's rampage in Age of Ultron (the consequences of which weren't explored in detail), I am completely down with. I know the comic itself was divisive, but I'm thinking that the movie will mostly be Civil War in name only.

CaptainMarvelous:
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Mahorfeus:
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From what I understand of it, it's already been confirmed that registration will not be what causes Civil War in the movies (and thank god, they screwed the pooch with it in the comics) so I'm guessing accountability for actions is what will be the issue the conflict revolves around.

As Agent Gomez from Agents of Shield put it, "Ultron was created because one man and those around him doing nothing to stop him". Say what you will about the Avengers saving the day in Sokovia and around the world by stopping Ultron, he does have a point in that it was all Tony's fault.

While I doubt it will be great... as long as they stay as far away from politics and humanly possible, I'm interested. (Slightly)

At the end of Winter Soldier, it looked like Steve was going to go after his old pal Bucky. Whatever happened to that plot line? Absolutely no mention of it in AoU.

Rikun:

Maybe they're going to address all the damage Hulk cause when they were in Johannesburg plus the utter destruction of Sokovia. Who knows what other cities and nations were decimated as a result?

That could be a factor. that is why they went to a "safehouse", to sort of evade public and political wrath.

Crash_7:
At the end of Winter Soldier, it looked like Steve was going to go after his old pal Bucky. Whatever happened to that plot line? Absolutely no mention of it in AoU.

This may play a factor (probably one of multiple) in the Rogers/Stark division in Cap3, since it was implied (iirc) the the Winter soldier had a hand in killing Tony's parents. And there is brief mention of Falcon still pursuing Bucky by Cap in A2 (also iirc).

Crash_7:
At the end of Winter Soldier, it looked like Steve was going to go after his old pal Bucky. Whatever happened to that plot line? Absolutely no mention of it in AoU.

Not so. Falcon said he was taking charge of the search while Cap was doing Avengers business.

Crash_7:
At the end of Winter Soldier, it looked like Steve was going to go after his old pal Bucky. Whatever happened to that plot line? Absolutely no mention of it in AoU.

There was a pretty clear mention of it when Falcon said he was following cold leads on finding their 'missing person' (Bucky) while Cap did his avenging.

Sounds good to me. I just got home from seeing Age of Ultron just now, and then spent an hour discussing and explaining things to my friend. I'm excited about this movie, because I could see the seeds of it in Ultron.

So no Matt Murdock/Daredevil?

Or are they really gunning for the Spiderman tie in with him?

I seem to vaguely remember Black Panther and Daredevil being the big guns that side with Cap in the comics.... and Daredevil actually did really well.

I think it'd be silly to tie in Black Panther and Ant-Man pre-release but not tie in Daredevil post-success.

Johnny Novgorod:
People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

Haven't you realized by now that stakes have no place in the Marvel movies? You want a superhero movie with actual stakes watch The Incredibles or X-Men: Days of Future Past.

Casual Shinji:

Johnny Novgorod:
People keep telling me how much of a game-changer Winter Soldier was, but was it really? Going by Avengers 2, it wasn't.

Haven't you realized by now that stakes have no place in the Marvel movies? You want a superhero movie with actual stakes watch The Incredibles or X-Men: Days of Future Past.

Stakes...DoFP. You're silly.

OT: I'm excited General Ross is coming back because that gives me hope for Red Hulk!

But when the Avengers are tied to an international incident causing collateral damage, a new governing body steps in to manage the team - including determining when they can be deployed.

Martin Freeman is Henry Gyrich. Can't believe I didn't see it before, Gyrich is THE government representative of busybodiness in the Marvel Universe.

Zontar:

CaptainMarvelous:
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Mahorfeus:
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From what I understand of it, it's already been confirmed that registration will not be what causes Civil War in the movies (and thank god, they screwed the pooch with it in the comics) so I'm guessing accountability for actions is what will be the issue the conflict revolves around.

As Agent Gomez from Agents of Shield put it, "Ultron was created because one man and those around him doing nothing to stop him". Say what you will about the Avengers saving the day in Sokovia and around the world by stopping Ultron, he does have a point in that it was all Tony's fault.

Well, no, it was caused by the lack of diplomacy between Asgard and Earth. Had there been proper diplomatic channels established between the two realms, there would have been a much longer period than 3 days before the scepter was given to the Asgardians, or it would have been studied in a joint project. Either way, there would have been more safeguards put in place during the search for a true AI. Although it may be that JARVIS managed to make the jump on his own to full AI during AoU. Not to mention the point of the research in the first place was because Tony knows damn well the threat is coming. His threat assessment and the need for enhanced capabilities were not actually wrong. Sometimes shit happens and the more complex the project, the more likely a catastrophic failure will occur.

Supahewok:

But when the Avengers are tied to an international incident causing collateral damage, a new governing body steps in to manage the team - including determining when they can be deployed.

Martin Freeman is Henry Gyrich. Can't believe I didn't see it before, Gyrich is THE government representative of busybodiness in the Marvel Universe.

So he plays the Marvel equivalent of Woolsey. Yeah, I can totally see that. So what's the over/under on Hill siding with Woolsey?

ravenshrike:
Well, no, it was caused by the lack of diplomacy between Asgard and Earth. Had there been proper diplomatic channels established between the two realms, there would have been a much longer period than 3 days before the scepter was given to the Asgardians, or it would have been studied in a joint project. Either way, there would have been more safeguards put in place during the search for a true AI. Although it may be that JARVIS managed to make the jump on his own to full AI during AoU. Not to mention the point of the research in the first place was because Tony knows damn well the threat is coming. His threat assessment and the need for enhanced capabilities were not actually wrong. Sometimes shit happens and the more complex the project, the more likely a catastrophic failure will occur.

Well to be honest who is Tony to do such a project in secret? He didn't try to speak to Thor about opening diplomatic relations (hell, the movie ended with that being the case. I'm surprised no one asked about starting an embassy or line of communication between governments) at any point, and to be honest I'm confused as to why a copy of JARVIS couldn't just be used for the Ultron program given he runs Iron Legion while also running a satellite communication network and being the individual who runs the second largest share of the worlds largest tech conglomerate. How would having a copy of himself, or maybe a few, responsible for different parts of the world instead of one responsible for the whole thing, unachievable? Hell, why stop there, why not have an army of them in a hierarchy responsible for different levels of things much like governments have different levels, and if something happens that one alone can not deal with have a higher level A.I. divert resources to deal accordingly.

Plus, how Ultron was able to escape/be created (it's pretty vague as to which it was) if he followed basic safety measures? Tony is a fault, not because of the situation he was in, but because of how he dealt with it.

So development just started and we should see it released May 6th 2016?

One year from start of filming to theaters? Holy shit, I remember when it took huge action blockbusters several years to get movies on the screen. I love technology.

Politrukk:
So no Matt Murdock/Daredevil?

Or are they really gunning for the Spiderman tie in with him?

I seem to vaguely remember Black Panther and Daredevil being the big guns that side with Cap in the comics.... and Daredevil actually did really well.

I think it'd be silly to tie in Black Panther and Ant-Man pre-release but not tie in Daredevil post-success.

Based on the terms Disney was demanding from theaters, I doubt Netflix is interested in cutting any kind of crossover deal with The Mouse. Plus this DD doesn't feel like he belongs with these Avengers.

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