The Witcher 3 Xbox Owners Ironically Locked Out Game Due to DRM Issues

The Witcher 3 Xbox Owners Ironically Locked Out Game Due to DRM Issues

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Owners of the Xbox One digital version of The Witcher 3 have found themselves unable to boot up their game.

Well, here's a story with a somewhat ironic twist. Despite its mockery of DRM, and developer CD Projekt Red's firm stance on the matter, owners of the Xbox One digital version of The Witcher 3 are finding themselves unable to play their games... due to a DRM malfunction.

Users are reporting the problem on reddit, and Microsoft's support form, all quoting the 0x87de2726 error code - which is apparently a licencing error. It's only effecting the digital version of the game as of now, so if you have a disk-based version you're golden.

Microsoft is aware of the problem, but has no timetable for a fix.

You can see this as either an ironic blow against CD Projekt Red for so staunchly mocking DRM, or rather a confirmation of its philosophy that DRM only ever punishes paying customers. After all, it was Microsoft, not CDPR that imposed DRM on The Witcher 3, and indeed the PC version of the game purchased from Good Old Games doesn't have any kind of DRM on it whatsoever.

Either way, things don't look good for Microsoft right now, which actually ran into a similar problem with Far Cry 4 earlier in the year.

Source: Gamasutra

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I don't want to sound like a hater against the Xbox One, but seriously? Something like this should happen once AT MOST per console cycle. The first time it happened, Microsoft should have sat down and figure out how to prevent it from happening again, never mind happening again 5 months later.

I want to sound like a hater against Xbox One and consoles in general, but what would you expect when a market is artificially created and maintained basically by a single company, acting more or less like a government issuing taxes and writing laws for that market?

I understand the Microsoft position. What are those consumers going to do, go to a different storefront? Try and return their copies for a refund? Pirate the game they paid for so they can play it? Sue them?

I would've taken my sweet time to fix the issue, too, if I knew the could do none of the above.

Please Help us, Master Witcher, these DRM are tormenting us!
> 1. I'll help you.
> 2. Let's talk about my reward first.
(X) 3. DRM are a necessary evil and I will not interfere.

Just tried my copy and it's working fine. Maybe it had to do with one of those extra pieces of DLC that where released for free? The only two I have is the Missing Miners contract and the Beard and Hairstyle set. It's the Digital version so very odd..

Dalek Caan:
It's the Digital version so very odd..

It's not that odd, Microsoft just have a crappy account management system set up, they had this exact problem with the digital version of Far Cry 4. It doesn't affect every user, but enough for it to be significant.

Why would anyone consider this a blow against CD Projekt Red?
They didn't put the DRM on the game, Microsoft did that.
Even if CDP added the DRM because Microsoft required it to be there[1], the finger still gets pointed at Microsoft in the end.

[1] Based only on this article, I don't know is the case or not

Steven Bogos:
DRM only ever punishes playing customers

You meant paying, right?

Anyway, yay for glorious pc gaming master race, I guess.

Can't see why I would want to get the digital only version of a huge game on a console if there's a boxed option.

It's not like it'll inherently come with advantages such as being able to change the language or anything, that is still an alien concept on consoles unlike steam which has this as a standard feature since forever.
And digital copies cost exactly as much or more than the boxed ones too so that brick and mortar retailers don't throw a tantrum.

So unless there is a massive, steam-esque sale which I imagine there isn't because Microsoft, why bother?

loa:
So unless there is a massive, steam-esque sale which I imagine there isn't because Microsoft, why bother?

"Because Microsoft" isn't actually that valid a grumble given that they have introduced periods of digital sales with massive price drops over the last couple of years. Not in this instance, obviously, but "because Microsoft" isn't accurate in general.

Still, whilst this is a ridiculous state of affairs, I don't really have much sympathy for those buying a game like Witcher 3 as a DL. I think around 8Gb's the biggest game I've DL'd, and that wasn't exactly speedy. I dread to think how long Witcher 3 might take to DL. Plus, as you said, there's no real advantage to having it as a DL versus a physical copy.

"affecting", not "effecting" and "paying", not "playing". I get it, business is tough. You have to mass-produce articles, but if they're this short, at least read it over just one time before throwing it out there.

I understand that this is a small problem. It's not really a problem actually. But it is a symptom of something which is: articles becoming less and less relevant, meaningful, accurate, useful, interesting and host of other similar adjectives. Lately I've been watching the Escapist spiral downwards in quality and it just saddens me. While previously I might have clicked on various different links and news articles, now I only ever bother to watch ZP and maybe skim the titles to see if something interesting's there. But I mostly find fluff and nonsense: "The 8 games which show the most side-boob!! You'll never guess nr. 19!!!"(Obviously a hyperbole, but I've seen plenty "Top 8 games which..." articles (none of which provided me with anything resembling useful information) recently to justify said hyperbole). Please stop, or I will stop reading this this site.

That is not a threat, that is not a demand, that is not the whining of an entitled 12-year old. That is the sadness of someone who used to enjoy reading articles on this site, and someone who's looking to spend his free time doing the thing that he enjoys most. And recently reading the Escapist is just not that.

the number of people trying to badmouth CDProjekt is too damn high...

Hold on. CD Project Red is against DRM. DRM causes issues. How is this ironic or a blow against CD Project Red? I don't see the logic.

No timetable for a fix? Well screw you M$, I'm glad i have a PS4.

If i'd bought an xbone and was being told that i'd be raging right now.

It only looks to be a blow against CDPR up until the second last paragraph of the article when you explain they didn't implement it.

Denamic:
Hold on. CD Project Red is against DRM. DRM causes issues. How is this ironic or a blow against CD Project Red? I don't see the logic.

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

My only thought is: holy fuck, people buy AAA games digitally on the Xbox One? With those download speeds?!

But yeah, sucks for those people. You'd think MS could try and stop it from happening, but no.

DracoSuave:

Denamic:
Hold on. CD Project Red is against DRM. DRM causes issues. How is this ironic or a blow against CD Project Red? I don't see the logic.

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

Denamic:

DracoSuave:

Denamic:
Hold on. CD Project Red is against DRM. DRM causes issues. How is this ironic or a blow against CD Project Red? I don't see the logic.

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

*Sirens blaring* Ello ello! Irony police here. Just doing a random check up. Won't take long.
Hmm. Sorry to urinate on one's fireworks, but this irony here's papers are all in order. Everything checks out.
Irony isn't bound to specific targets, it has many forms. Of all the games to mess up digital rights management, it would be the one made by the developer that is actively against DRM. There you have your irony! Nearly half your RDI of it too.
Right. We' re all done here. ...Florence? Warm the engine, we have a lot more irony to keep in check and a long night ahead of us!
*Sirens blaring fade*

Xsjadoblayde:

Denamic:

DracoSuave:

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

*Sirens blaring* Ello ello! Irony police here. Just doing a random check up. Won't take long.
Hmm. Sorry to urinate on one's fireworks, but this irony here's papers are all in order. Everything checks out.
Irony isn't bound to specific targets, it has many forms. Of all the games to mess up digital rights management, it would be the one made by the developer that is actively against DRM. There you have your irony! Nearly half your RDI of it too.
Right. We' re all done here. ...Florence? Warm the engine, we have a lot more irony to keep in check and a long night ahead of us!
*Sirens blaring fade*

If you force a lactose intolerant person to drink non-lactose free milk, I don't think it's irony when they get the runs.

To put it another way:
"If we do X, Y will happen" > Y Happens = Not irony.
"If we do X, Y will never happen" > Y Happens = Irony.

If they had said that DRM is the best thing ever and never negatively affects consumers, it would be irony. The fact that they're against DRM and this now happening is not irony; it's just confirmation that their stance is well founded.

Denamic:

Xsjadoblayde:

Denamic:

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

*Sirens blaring* Ello ello! Irony police here. Just doing a random check up. Won't take long.
Hmm. Sorry to urinate on one's fireworks, but this irony here's papers are all in order. Everything checks out.
Irony isn't bound to specific targets, it has many forms. Of all the games to mess up digital rights management, it would be the one made by the developer that is actively against DRM. There you have your irony! Nearly half your RDI of it too.
Right. We' re all done here. ...Florence? Warm the engine, we have a lot more irony to keep in check and a long night ahead of us!
*Sirens blaring fade*

If you force a lactose intolerant person to drink non-lactose free milk, I don't think it's irony when they get the runs.

To put it another way:
"If we do X, Y will happen" > Y Happens = Not irony.
"If we do X, Y will never happen" > Y Happens = Irony.

If they had said that DRM is the best thing ever and never negatively affects consumers, it would be irony. The fact that they're against DRM and this now happening is not irony; it's just confirmation that their stance is well founded.

I have to agree with this fine gentleman.

At first glance it seems ironic; but, when you consider that CDPR say that DRM fucks the customer and that they've been forced to implement DRM by a 3rd party, you can't say that DRM fucking the customer over is ironic (in regards to a CDPR game).

What you could say is that it is massively appropriate and stance affirming. Ironic though, not really.

Appropriate and ironic seem strangely similar to those lacking a firm grasp.

Denamic:

If you force a lactose intolerant person to drink non-lactose free milk, I don't think it's irony when they get the runs.

/thread.

This is neither ironic nor the fault of CD Projekt Red. If anything it shows that their point regarding DRM is extremely valid.

Denamic:

Xsjadoblayde:

Denamic:

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

*Sirens blaring* Ello ello! Irony police here. Just doing a random check up. Won't take long.
Hmm. Sorry to urinate on one's fireworks, but this irony here's papers are all in order. Everything checks out.
Irony isn't bound to specific targets, it has many forms. Of all the games to mess up digital rights management, it would be the one made by the developer that is actively against DRM. There you have your irony! Nearly half your RDI of it too.
Right. We' re all done here. ...Florence? Warm the engine, we have a lot more irony to keep in check and a long night ahead of us!
*Sirens blaring fade*

If you force a lactose intolerant person to drink non-lactose free milk, I don't think it's irony when they get the runs.

To put it another way:
"If we do X, Y will happen" > Y Happens = Not irony.
"If we do X, Y will never happen" > Y Happens = Irony.

If they had said that DRM is the best thing ever and never negatively affects consumers, it would be irony. The fact that they're against DRM and this now happening is not irony; it's just confirmation that their stance is well founded.

Best Irony explanation I have yet to see.

Someone said the article is the only one saying they were forced to add the DRM. No MS requires it for all games on the Xbox. CDProjekt Red wanted to sell on the consoles store they had to include MS's DRM. If they wanted to sell it on Steam it would include Steams DRM. Boxed set from a brick and mortar? Their own digital store? They can do whatever they want.

Xsjadoblayde:

Denamic:

DracoSuave:

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

*Sirens blaring* Ello ello! Irony police here. Just doing a random check up. Won't take long.
Hmm. Sorry to urinate on one's fireworks, but this irony here's papers are all in order. Everything checks out.
Irony isn't bound to specific targets, it has many forms. Of all the games to mess up digital rights management, it would be the one made by the developer that is actively against DRM. There you have your irony! Nearly half your RDI of it too.
Right. We' re all done here. ...Florence? Warm the engine, we have a lot more irony to keep in check and a long night ahead of us!
*Sirens blaring fade*

The only thing ironic about all this is your very own post..

Denamic:

DracoSuave:

Denamic:
Hold on. CD Project Red is against DRM. DRM causes issues. How is this ironic or a blow against CD Project Red? I don't see the logic.

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

Irony and being right are not mutually exclusive.

One does not expect someone against DRM to be bitten in the ass by DRM on their products. That's the source of irony. The fact they're against DRM is what MAKES it ironic, because it is -counter to expectation- that someone against DRM would -have- it and be -bitten- by it.

Irony is defined by the juxtaposition of opposites, either by saying something and meaning the opposite [verbal irony, often confused with sarcasm], an action occuring opposite of intention [situational irony, which this case falls in], or a case where an action leads to a consequence opposite of intention [dramatic irony, the most commonly understood definition].

This certainly falls under situational irony by any textbook definition.

JET1971:

Denamic:

If you force a lactose intolerant person to drink non-lactose free milk, I don't think it's irony when they get the runs.

To put it another way:
"If we do X, Y will happen" > Y Happens = Not irony.
"If we do X, Y will never happen" > Y Happens = Irony.

If they had said that DRM is the best thing ever and never negatively affects consumers, it would be irony. The fact that they're against DRM and this now happening is not irony; it's just confirmation that their stance is well founded.

Best Dramatic Irony explanation I have yet to see.

Someone said the article is the only one saying they were forced to add the DRM. No MS requires it for all games on the Xbox. CDProjekt Red wanted to sell on the consoles store they had to include MS's DRM. If they wanted to sell it on Steam it would include Steams DRM. Boxed set from a brick and mortar? Their own digital store? They can do whatever they want.

Fixed that for you.

His description ONLY covers one form of irony.

Examples of Verbal Irony:
Verbal Irony Examples:
1. Looking at her son's messy room, Mom says, "Wow, you could win an award for cleanliness!"
2. On the way to school, the school bus gets a flat tire and the bus driver says, "Excellent! This day couldn't start off any better!"
3. Mark is very upset over the fact that his brand new truck has a little speck of mud on the bumper, and Jennifer, who has a used car, says, "My goodness! That's a shame!"
4. A student who goes to the restroom every day during class asks the teacher if he can go. Her response is "Sure, it's not like we do anything important in this class."
5. A mother with three noisy children has been waiting in line at the market. When it is her turn, the cashier asks if she would mind waiting while she runs to the restroom. The mother says, "Of course not-why in the world would you think I would mind?"
6. A small child does not flush the toilet, and the mother says, "I really appreciate when you flush the toilet! Thank you for remembering your manners!"

Situational irony is when something opposite to intent occurs. CD Projekt intended for their games to be DRM free to prevent problems with DRM. They were hit with problems with DRM. That is the definition of situational irony.

DracoSuave:

Denamic:

DracoSuave:

Because one does not expect a company who is against DRM to have their product become nonfunctional because of issues with DRM.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of situational irony, where the opposite of expectation occurs.

Irony would be if them being against DRM backfired on them. They're against DRM because it's anti-consumer. Now that the DRM actually did act up and directly hurt the consumers, it doesn't make it irony. It just means they were right.

Irony and being right are not mutually exclusive.

One does not expect someone against DRM to be bitten in the ass by DRM on their products. That's the source of irony. The fact they're against DRM is what MAKES it ironic, because it is -counter to expectation- that someone against DRM would -have- it and be -bitten- by it.

Irony is defined by the juxtaposition of opposites, either by saying something and meaning the opposite [verbal irony, often confused with sarcasm], an action occuring opposite of intention [situational irony, which this case falls in], or a case where an action leads to a consequence opposite of intention [dramatic irony, the most commonly understood definition].

This certainly falls under situational irony by any textbook definition.

JET1971:

Denamic:

If you force a lactose intolerant person to drink non-lactose free milk, I don't think it's irony when they get the runs.

To put it another way:
"If we do X, Y will happen" > Y Happens = Not irony.
"If we do X, Y will never happen" > Y Happens = Irony.

If they had said that DRM is the best thing ever and never negatively affects consumers, it would be irony. The fact that they're against DRM and this now happening is not irony; it's just confirmation that their stance is well founded.

Best Dramatic Irony explanation I have yet to see.

Someone said the article is the only one saying they were forced to add the DRM. No MS requires it for all games on the Xbox. CDProjekt Red wanted to sell on the consoles store they had to include MS's DRM. If they wanted to sell it on Steam it would include Steams DRM. Boxed set from a brick and mortar? Their own digital store? They can do whatever they want.

Fixed that for you.

His description ONLY covers one form of irony.

Examples of Verbal Irony:
Verbal Irony Examples:
1. Looking at her son's messy room, Mom says, "Wow, you could win an award for cleanliness!"
2. On the way to school, the school bus gets a flat tire and the bus driver says, "Excellent! This day couldn't start off any better!"
3. Mark is very upset over the fact that his brand new truck has a little speck of mud on the bumper, and Jennifer, who has a used car, says, "My goodness! That's a shame!"
4. A student who goes to the restroom every day during class asks the teacher if he can go. Her response is "Sure, it's not like we do anything important in this class."
5. A mother with three noisy children has been waiting in line at the market. When it is her turn, the cashier asks if she would mind waiting while she runs to the restroom. The mother says, "Of course not-why in the world would you think I would mind?"
6. A small child does not flush the toilet, and the mother says, "I really appreciate when you flush the toilet! Thank you for remembering your manners!"

Situational irony is when something opposite to intent occurs. CD Projekt intended for their games to be DRM free to prevent problems with DRM. They were hit with problems with DRM. That is the definition of situational irony.

Ah yes, thankyou. This was what I failed explain by resorting to humour in assumption that people would already understand. Unfortunately, my brain was a twee hindered by inebriation. So it confuddled me when people thought irony was such a specific term. Can you be my backup brain? ;)

And MS want always-online-DRM ...

I raise an eyebrow at the implication that CDRP could in any way be to blame for this, since they didn't want it and Microsoft shoved it in. I feel bad for a good company (CDRP, obviously) to get saddled with this with one of their big, popular titles but at least they can use this as a thing to point out in the future when someone else tries to do the same thing. Maybe a few others will get the picture with such a public display of DRM screwing things up.

I'm not holding my breath, but one can dream.

I imagine some Xbox One users must be pretty angry about this. This would mean Microsoft now has to deal with some...

Raging xboners.

...I'll see myself out, I guess.

So CDPR get vindication that DRM is a load of shit for customers, and Microsoft gets yet another embarrassing incident on the long list of embarrassing incidents that has been the Xbone's entire existence, but the article is worded relating to it being ironic for CDPR to be against DMR when this happens? Honestly, I think the more relevant point would be "Microsoft still screws shit up months after the exact same issue occurred before" rather than how the Witcher getting DRM issues because it was forced upon their game is similar to rain on your wedding day or whatever.

Also

DracoSuave:
Situational irony is when something opposite to intent occurs. CD Projekt intended for their games to be DRM free to prevent problems with DRM. They were hit with problems with DRM. That is the definition of situational irony.

Situation irony is when the opposite of intent occurs, true. This situation though is not really ironic, as while CDPR's desire was for no DRM, it was forced upon them to put in there, removing their intent with regards to that version of the game. That they were forced to put DRM on their game when their intent was to not have it was ironic, not when the DRM they were forced to have caused issues. That their opinions regarding DRM were proven valid though, is not, that was vindication of those opinions as it displayed exactly what was predicted.

The way you seem to be using the word would mean that every time a business screws up, it is automatically ironic because the intent to make profit was met with the opposite. Hell, applying it loosely, every tragedy in history is ironic because it was the opposite of intent of the people who underwent it.

Though, that issue with semantics is probably why the dramatic understanding of irony is the more commonly thought of definition of it than the one you use, as dramatic irony applies to fewer situations and seems to have more meaning in use of the word than the "ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife" sort of irony.

 

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