Nintendo Exec Asks That Disappointed Metroid Fans "Trust Us"

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Nintendo Exec Asks That Disappointed Metroid Fans "Trust Us"

Nintendo's President addressed fan disappointment with Metroid Prime: Federation Force, asks fans to "trust us."

Nintendo of America President and COO Reggie Fils-Aime discussed the backlash against Metroid Prime: Federation Force with Mashable, saying the company needs to reinvent franchises in order to keep them moving forward.

"We're taking our great IP and transforming them and making them new again - making them fresh and appealing for the fan who feels they know the franchise. But we're giving them new things to enjoy," Fils-Amie said.

Fils-Aime acknowledged that fans were disappointed not to see a traditional Metroid Prime game, but that the company believed it had to focus on reinventing older franchises in order to keep them from becoming stale. He also indicates that those who are disappointed with the title may feel differently after actually playing it.

"What the fan at home saw was something in the Metroid Prime universe that they weren't expecting. The reaction has been negative. There's no sugar coating it," Fils-Aime said. "This is an example where fans who aren't able to get their hands on the game may be at a bit of a competitive disadvantage. Everyone who has played what we are showing regarding Metroid Prime, they've come across really pleased. My ask is that fans trust us."

Metroid Prime: Federation Force is scheduled for release in 2016.

[Source: Mashable]

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Trust is something you have to earn, Nintendo has done little to garner that with the Metroid franchise lately.

Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

After the farcical disaster that was Metroid: Other M, you don't get any trust on this subject Nintendo. Not before you've proven you can actually deliver a proper Metroid game(be it a proper Prime type or preferably a proper 2D one ala Super M, Fusion and Zero Mission).

As for this particular title? Personally don't care about it. Its a spinoff who's target audience doesn't include me from what I've seen of it. I hope whoever guys it enjoys it though.

This is not "reinventing the franchise" Reggie. The original Metroid Prime games, those were reinventing the franchise. This is making a different franchise and slapping the Metroid name on it.

Though not even a buyer of anything Nintendo for a while, I do weirdly trust them. An outside perspective shows that Nintendo are a unique creature, with flaws as any other. But they seem to enjoy surprising when choosing one of their rare moments to communicate with humans. Their detatchment, in many ways is, a blessing for this increasingly touchy industry.

Captch: swirling vortex of entropy. ...Orrr that?

My issue isn't that it doesn't have Samus, or even that it doesn't resemble a Metroid game. My issue is that it does resemble a Metroid game, Metroid Prime Hunters, and that game was garbage. Reinventing a franchise is fine, but don't use it as an opportunity to repeat past mistakes.

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Fees-a-may

P.S. Thanks

This is kinda sad nintendo. You know that one of the biggest complain leveled at you is that you never make new IP right? So here, you're essentially making a new IP except you're not. Instead you put yourself in a lose-lose scenario where you're not making a new IP and you're screwing up an old IP (who's last title was also a massive disappointment). So, no, you do not deserve any trust.

"<Fils-Aime> believed it had to focus on reinventing older franchises in order to keep them from becoming stale."

Umm.. You what mate? Nintendo have been remaking the same games for the past 3 decades. Legend of Zelda? Super Mario? Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Pikmin, Donkey Kong, etc.?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Nintendo's games as much as the next person, but to say that they are "reinventing" their franchises each time is blatantly untrue.

my only thought on this game is that it should have been an extra mode in Splatoon not part of the Metroid universe

as for trust... well I'll give you the benefit of the doubt seeing as Nintendo doesn't use E3 to reveal big new titles and instead relies on it's digital events to make big announcements. So I imagine something else will be revealed a some point in the future

STENDEC1:
"<Fils-Aime> believed it had to focus on reinventing older franchises in order to keep them from becoming stale."

Umm.. You what mate? Nintendo have been remaking the same games for the past 3 decades. Legend of Zelda? Super Mario? Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Pikmin, Donkey Kong, etc.?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Nintendo's games as much as the next person, but to say that they are "reinventing" their franchises each time is blatantly untrue.

Actually, when you mention Super Mario followed by Mario Kart, that's actually a pretty decent example of reinvention, where you take an established setting but then make a completely different type of game than what everyone had seen earlier (I'm talking about the first Mario Kart here, not the franchise it itself went on to become). Likewise, Zelda not too long ago gave us Hyrule Warriors, which while just being a Dynasty Warriors game gameplay wise is still a completely different beast than any Zelda game that came before. The original Donkey Kong games are nothing like the Donkey Kong Country games.

Reggie didn't say that they reinvent their franchises each time, only that it's a thing they do sometimes, which actually is true, albeit rare.

My problem isn't so much that Federation Force exists, so much as it's not what I want. It's fine if that's the game they want to make, but I'd prefer greatly if I didn't have to wait a decade for a more traditional Metroid experience, since that's one of their franchises that hasn't been run into the ground yet.

This actually looks kinda cool. I sort of wish it wasn't called metroid, but it always annoys me when devs think they can't have multiple games taking place in the same universe unless the same character is the star.

Halyah:
After the farcical disaster that was Metroid: Other M, you don't get any trust on this subject Nintendo. Not before you've proven you can actually deliver a proper Metroid game(be it a proper Prime type or preferably a proper 2D one ala Super M, Fusion and Zero Mission).

Oh, get over yourself, Other M was by a completely different developer altogether, and the guy who primarily screwed things up isn't even involved this time. This is Next Level Games, the guys behind Punch-Out!! Wii and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. They're not Retro, but they've shown what they can do with a 3DS. Besides, the Treehouse Live playthrough painted a much better image of the game than the Direct trailer.

I was angry at first, too, saying this didn't deserve the "Prime" subtitle, but after seeing this, I feel more reassured. Plus, they've stated that the story in this game is meant to be a setup for a proper Prime 4 in the future, which is possibly what Retro's working on.

Yes, we were all disappointed by E3, but have a little faith.

I should get a 3DS so I can support Nintendo doing more stuff like this in the future.

GZGoten:
my only thought on this game is that it should have been an extra mode in Splatoon not part of the Metroid universe

What does this have to do with Splatoon? You do know that the soccer game isn't the entire game, don't you?

And Man:

GZGoten:
my only thought on this game is that it should have been an extra mode in Splatoon not part of the Metroid universe

What does this have to donope, I thought all it was was just playing soccer in a Metroid universe with Splatoon? You do know that the soccer game isn't the entire game, don't you?

nope I thought the whole thing was just Metroid's version of a soccer league game. So is this like that horrible Metroid Prime for the DS? That's even worse

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Covarr:
My issue isn't that it doesn't have Samus, or even that it doesn't resemble a Metroid game. My issue is that it does resemble a Metroid game, Metroid Prime Hunters, and that game was garbage. Reinventing a franchise is fine, but don't use it as an opportunity to repeat past mistakes.

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Fees-a-may

P.S. Thanks

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong. Everybody keeps leaving off the accent that is supposed to appear over the "e" like this: "Aimé". See the accent? WITHOUT the accent it is pronounced "Fees-Am".

That accent mark is VERY IMPORTANT because it changes this particular word from being a verb the simple present tense (in the first person singular) "Aime", to the past participle (congugated in the masculine) "Aimé" - or even as an adjective. Without the accent the word is pronounced differently and is contextualized in a different tense.

His family name is French and means, "Son that is loved". Fils = son. Aimé = loved. So spell it like this - "Fils-Aimé" and you've got your correct pronunciation.

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Feez uh-mee or may.

Ir just call him threadlove. I learned that from Lewis Affection-Pig.

Halyah:
After the farcical disaster that was Metroid: Other M, you don't get any trust on this subject Nintendo.

Basically.

Blind faith in companies leads to crappy games. Nintendo gets my money when their games look good and only then. But the nerve to ask that when the last Metroid with Other M? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

vagabondwillsmile:

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong.

It's a proper name. They get corrupted with time. The spelling isn't wrong for the pronunciation, as it's not spelling the word.

vagabondwillsmile:

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Covarr:
My issue isn't that it doesn't have Samus, or even that it doesn't resemble a Metroid game. My issue is that it does resemble a Metroid game, Metroid Prime Hunters, and that game was garbage. Reinventing a franchise is fine, but don't use it as an opportunity to repeat past mistakes.

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Fees-a-may

P.S. Thanks

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong. Everybody keeps leaving off the accent that is supposed to appear over the "e" like this: "Aimé". See the accent? WITHOUT the accent it is pronounced "Fees-Am".

That accent mark is VERY IMPORTANT because it changes this particular word from being a verb the simple present tense (in the first person singular) "Aime", to the past participle (congugated in the masculine) "Aimé" - or even as an adjective. Without the accent the word is pronounced differently and is contextualized in a different tense.

Oh you whacky Europeans, putting little hats on all your letters.

I don't even know how to type an accent on my 'e'.

canadamus_prime:
This is not "reinventing the franchise" Reggie. The original Metroid Prime games, those were reinventing the franchise. This is making a different franchise and slapping the Metroid name on it.

I was about to make the same accusation of different game with a familiar name slapped on it. It's really common with them so it wouldn't be a surprise.
I hate that they keep doing it though, some of the games seemed like they'd have been entirely better if they didn't have the familiar name slapped on it. Star Fox Adventures being one of them.

Zachary Amaranth:

vagabondwillsmile:

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong.

It's a proper name. They get corrupted with time. The spelling isn't wrong for the pronunciation, as it's not spelling the word.

Yeah, that often happens for any number of reasons. Some documents have the accent for his name though and others don't. His twitter doesn't have it so we could use that as an indicator of how he would spell it himself. But is that a twitter thing, or is it him making it easier on people who don't know the key stroke, or the way he actually spells it. We could always get him to sign something with his full name and see how he WRITES it! Haha!

GZGoten:

And Man:

GZGoten:
my only thought on this game is that it should have been an extra mode in Splatoon not part of the Metroid universe

What does this have to donope, I thought all it was was just playing soccer in a Metroid universe with Splatoon? You do know that the soccer game isn't the entire game, don't you?

nope I thought the whole thing was just Metroid's version of a soccer league game. So is this like that horrible Metroid Prime for the DS? That's even worse

Looks like a 4-player co-op, mission-based Metroid Prime game. The gameplay looks fairly standard for Metroid Prime, though with less exploration. Here's some gameplay from Nintendo's Treehouse at E3. I think it looks decent enough.

Honestly, I think a good part of the backlash is probably due to poor marketing/presentation by Nintendo, which sadly isn't really anything new.

Because when has Nintendo ever pile-driven a beloved franchise into the ground with bullshit titles and cheap gimmicks?!

Oh wait...

Zhukov:

vagabondwillsmile:

Zhukov:
Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Covarr:
My issue isn't that it doesn't have Samus, or even that it doesn't resemble a Metroid game. My issue is that it does resemble a Metroid game, Metroid Prime Hunters, and that game was garbage. Reinventing a franchise is fine, but don't use it as an opportunity to repeat past mistakes.

Fees-a-may

P.S. Thanks

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong. Everybody keeps leaving off the accent that is supposed to appear over the "e" like this: "Aimé". See the accent? WITHOUT the accent it is pronounced "Fees-Am".

That accent mark is VERY IMPORTANT because it changes this particular word from being a verb the simple present tense (in the first person singular) "Aime", to the past participle (congugated in the masculine) "Aimé" - or even as an adjective. Without the accent the word is pronounced differently and is contextualized in a different tense.

Oh you whacky Europeans, putting little hats on all your letters.

I don't even know how to type an accent on my 'e'.

The keyboard shortcut is alt (opt for mac) plus e. The little accent appears, and then you press e again to put it under the accent. There is an accent that goes in the opposite direction as well over e's and a's. It's in the top left of your keyboard - alt plus that, and then e. Depending on context, the accents serve a variety of functions. :)

Reminds me of the nonsense that happened with Metroid Prime. Man, that game was TERRIBLE! /sarcasm

I can get why people would be worried, but honestly I'm glad Nintendo is taking more risks like this. Even if it fails, we're given something that is at least INTERESTING to discuss, ala Other M. Say what you want about how terrible Other M was, at least it sparked real discussions.

Uh Huh see guys here is the problem trust isn't something just given to you, it's something you earn, and as of now, the Metroid series has been dead for far too long, and instead of making a true sequel to the prime series on the Wii-U (not the BS one like Other M) you instead make a spin-off for the 3DS... Yeah see the problem?

Nintendo, it has been 8 years since you have done a Metroid Prime game, and 5 years since you did a Metroid game in general.

Showing off this game, what appears to be a chibi style metroid on the 3ds that looks akin to Metroid Hunters (which wasn't exactly good) was always going to get some backlash. There are a lot of people who wanted a more traditional 2d metroid or a tried and true 3d Metroid Prime on a home console (wii-u), not this......thing.

But whatever, I know I won't be buying it, what the hell do I care.

Well, people are upset because the game looks like shit, to be honest. I don't want a MP Metroid game, I would prefer an actual Metroid game (preferably 2D, but I would take 3D)(also, clearly looking for that solo fun experience that feels so creepy and solitary).

I love it, "we have to reinvent the games to keep fans interested"... that is the dumbest line of reasoning I have ever heard. No, you don't reinvent games to keep fans interested, you make more of that fuckin' game. This is rather funny since there has been little change in Zelda since it hit 3D, all the while the handhelds keep up the same exact gameplay as the SNES Zelda. Same thing with Mario.

I hate to say it, this is how you alienate fans, not make them happy.

I also thought we were passed the point where companies were thinking that in order for a game to successful it has to have MP. Nintendo, they have addled minds at this point, my god.

Nintendo? We're not disappointed that you made a spinoff game. We're disappointed that you elected to do so for a franchise that hasn't had a new proper iteration in eight years (damn right I'm ignoring Other M).

Nobody gets mad when Nintendo makes spinoff titles for Mario or Zelda, because for the most part we always know that a new installment of the series is being worked on since Nintendo actually cares about keeping those IPs relevant. The niche stuff like Metroid and F-Zero, though..... good luck.

I don't even necessarily want a new Prime game, either. Can you imagine how good a new 2D Metroid game could be on the Wii U? *drool*

And Man:
Looks like a 4-player co-op, mission-based Metroid Prime game. The gameplay looks fairly standard for Metroid Prime, though with less exploration. Here's some gameplay from Nintendo's Treehouse at E3. I think it looks decent enough.
Honestly, I think a good part of the backlash is probably due to poor marketing/presentation by Nintendo, which sadly isn't really anything new.

I know I'm wrong but that reminds me more of Monster Hunter in the Metroid universe, not bad although I don't like the idea of another first person Metroid game

I think the backlash though is due more to a lack of Samus, these characters haven't been introduced yet so it's hard to care for any other part of the Metroid universe when our focal point has always been Samus

VinLAURiA:

Halyah:
After the farcical disaster that was Metroid: Other M, you don't get any trust on this subject Nintendo. Not before you've proven you can actually deliver a proper Metroid game(be it a proper Prime type or preferably a proper 2D one ala Super M, Fusion and Zero Mission).

Oh, get over yourself, Other M was by a completely different developer altogether, and the guy who primarily screwed things up isn't even involved this time. This is Next Level Games, the guys behind Punch-Out!! Wii and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. They're not Retro, but they've shown what they can do with a 3DS. Besides, the Treehouse Live playthrough painted a much better image of the game than the Direct trailer.

I was angry at first, too, saying this didn't deserve the "Prime" subtitle, but after seeing this, I feel more reassured. Plus, they've stated that the story in this game is meant to be a setup for a proper Prime 4 in the future, which is possibly what Retro's working on.

Yes, we were all disappointed by E3, but have a little faith.

And? It was done under Nintendo's guidance regardless and this one is clearly not the kind of Metroid I'm interested in. I haven't played Punch-Out or Luigi's Mansions from this dev either so I have no reason to believe they'll do it well. Not that it'd matter either since to my knowledge those two are different from what this one will be doing.

Also I'm not angry. In so far as this particular spin off goes, I don't care all that much and would've just shrugged my shoulders before moving on if not for the "trust us" line.

Oh c'mon. They should know this is one of their biggest franchises. Some of those classics are seen as epics, so Federation Force was obviously going to be compared to them, and it just looks fucking lame.

I believe the artist can do whatever they want with their ideas, but they've already failed delivering the wow factor with this one.

Then again, Nintendo can't do anything like they used to anymore, so this looks about right.

"Trust us." *working on releasing a new console for the following year*

Yeah Nintendo, wonderful. So glad I bought a Wii-U.

And the damage control begins.

It's hard to pity Nintendo here. They slapped Metroid on a rather meek trailer for something that in no way would make anyone get excited. The hatred may be overdone, but it's still a "what the fuck did you expect" moment.

As for as re-inventing games, has Nintendo looked at their biggest hits in the last few years: Pokemon, Mario Kart, New super mario bros, Smash bros, Zelda OOT and LBW, fucking mario party. Nintendo's biggest wins that weren't the gimmicks to more the wii have come from not re-inventing the wheel, but rather tweaking past successes and refining them. It might be stagnant, but at least people like what you've stagnated on.

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