Thanks to Kickstarter, Chris Hansen's Online Predator Stings Are Back

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Thanks to Kickstarter, Chris Hansen's Online Predator Stings Are Back

hansen vs. predator

Chris Hansen is here to do two things: Chew bubblegum and kick pedophile ass. And he's all outta bubblegum.

Everyone just have a seat, right over there, because the host of NBC's infamous reality series, To Catch a Predator, is back at it again.

Seemingly not content with the hundreds of online creeps he trapped during Predator's three year run between 2004 and 2007, Hansen launched a Kickstarter campaign in April, with the aim of "undertaking a new investigation into online predators." Hansen vs. Predator, as it's now being called, raised $10,000 on its first day, met it's $75,000 goal in 22 days, and raised a total of $89,068 from over 1,200 backers by the time all was said and done. America truly loves us some online justice, it would seem.

As promised, Hansen vs. Predator began filming in Fairfield, Connecticut at the beginning of the month, but perhaps more interesting is the way in which Hansen went about involving local authorities in his independently backed sex sting operations. Basically, through sheer force of will.

According to a report published by the New Republic, Hansen first called up the Fairfield police department in mid-August, informing them that he would be setting up a sex sting not unlike the ones he became famous for on NBC, with the lone exception being that neither NBC nor any major network would be involved this time around. It was not a request, but more a warning, and the Fairfield police department was pretty much powerless to prevent Hansen from moving forward with his operation. Ultimately, Fairfield's deputy police chief, Christopher Lyddy, decided that his department's involvement would ensure that these stings went off as smoothly as planned and agreed to lend assistance.

"We thought long and hard about this," said Lyddy, "but at the end of the day we completely understood that this was going to happen no matter what, and that we really had a responsibility to become involved and to ensure this neighborhood was safe."

Starting on October 1st, Hansen's crew and Fairfield police camped out for four days at a decoy house in Fairfield, busting ten men in total whose bonds were set as high as $1.1 million.

Hansen said one man showed up with a gun in his car; another, when confronted by Hansen and his cameras said he knew him from commuting on the Metro North train together and pleaded, "No, Chris, please don't do this to me"; another admitted to police to having previously sodomized a 15-year-old. "In almost every case they were extremely specific about what they wanted to do, which sexual acts, how they would start," Hansen told me. "You could see the grooming process in action: 'we'll do this in the kitchen together, we'll take a bath together, we'll go to bed.'"

Given the salacious and exploitative nature of Hansen's stings, there have obviously been a few naysayers who argue that shows like To Catch a Predator are doing more harm than good. Among the accusations leveled at Hansen is the belief that, "by subjecting the merely accused to the potential of mass humiliation, the show neglects the common notion of innocent until proven guilty." Many of these concerns seem rooted in the particularly grisly case of Louis Conradt Jr., an assistant district attorney in Murphy, Texas who shot himself during a confrontation with SWAT while Hansen's crew waited outside his home. Conradt's family later received an undisclosed sum from NBC to settle a wrongful death suit against the network.

But according to Hansen, the risk is worth the reward -- the reward being that potentially dangerous predators are being taken off the streets. "As Fairfield demonstrated, this is still very much a huge issue," said Hansen. "We just made that the safest neighborhood in America."

In any case, I don't see how there's any way that Hansen vs. Predator can do any more damage to the American psyche than its predecessor, Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, already has.

Source: New Republic

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The only thing funnier than this show was the episode of South Park that referenced it.

That image makes Chris Hansen look like Jeremy Clarkson. Love the show though. Had I known about the Kickstarter I likely would have contributed. Also:

In any case, I don't see how there's any way that Hansen vs. Predator can do any more damage to the American psyche than its predecessor, Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, already has

Man, you wanna talk about 'grisly', there's plenty of that in AvP: Requiem. Just in time for Halloween.

Did... Did Chris Hansen just Batman a Connecticut Police Office into submission?

"I'm going to to clean up these mean streets of Gotha Fairfield!"

"Very Good, sir. Will the vigilante be needing a Spotlight with his Symbol in efforts to call him?"

JaredJones:

In any case, I don't see how there's any way that Hansen vs. Predator can do any more damage to the American psyche than its predecessor, Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, already has.

This joke hurts me. Deep down in the depths of my soul, I feel an immense pain. Because I didn't think of it first.

P.S. Thanks

Ah, turning sting operation into a tv show for entertainment.
Ruining lives on camera.
Kinda gross.

I don't care if they "deserved it", running man should remain fiction.
Have you learned nothing from monetizing imprisonment via privatized prisons?
Why, then, do you think mixing show biz and legal persecution is a good idea? It's not. It's gross.

I don't get why they settled with that Murphy TX guy's family. He was an indecent pervert who basically took his own life after being caught in the act. That is is OWN FAULT. There is no wrongful death about it.

loa:
Ah, turning sting operation into a tv show for entertainment.
Ruining lives on camera.
Kinda gross.

I don't care if they "deserved it", running man should remain fiction.
Have you learned nothing from monetizing imprisonment via privatized prisons?
Why, then, do you think mixing show biz and legal persecution is a good idea? It's not. It's gross.

I have to agree, this is the kind of thing that should be handled by the police, not vigilantes.

Well yay. That shit is back. Lovely.

And now more "Pedophiles aren't people" bullshit.

Episode one: Sarah Nyberg

erttheking:

loa:
Ah, turning sting operation into a tv show for entertainment.
Ruining lives on camera.
Kinda gross.

I don't care if they "deserved it", running man should remain fiction.
Have you learned nothing from monetizing imprisonment via privatized prisons?
Why, then, do you think mixing show biz and legal persecution is a good idea? It's not. It's gross.

I have to agree, this is the kind of thing that should be handled by the police, not vigilantes.

Guy with a bunch of money gets to do whatever he wants in the name of justice he's pretty much batman; except for doing it for ratings, fame, and the whole getting people killed bit.

loa:
Ah, turning sting operation into a tv show for entertainment.
Ruining lives on camera.
Kinda gross.

let's not forget the time his target killed himself. Look up the footage if you want.

This ridiculous, he shouldn't be able to strong arm the police. What if the police didn't come? How would you feel about dozens of pedophiles coming into your neighborhood? And some were armed, apparently, and now they're desperate? This is ridiculous. If they cared about justice, they could do an internet sting with the police on board. But you got to have it on camera, I guess.

You talk about this but no mention of 'Thems Fightin Herds' being funded?

You know, something that actually is a game.

Worgen:
You talk about this but no mention of 'Thems Fightin Herds' being funded?

You know, something that actually is a game.

Kinda derailing there, also, brony game? Neigh.

dirtysteve:
Episode one: Sarah Nyberg

Was thinking the exact same thing. Between "her" and their supporters, I'm sure that Chris could get a full season out of that alone.

Looking forward to the day I can watch live stream of murder convicts having a battle royale instead of justice trials. Though in all honesty, private vigilante justice is not that much worse from the public justice system that considers "affluenza" a viable defense. Keep it classy yankees!

dirtysteve:

Worgen:
You talk about this but no mention of 'Thems Fightin Herds' being funded?

You know, something that actually is a game.

Kinda derailing there, also, brony game? Neigh.

They are both things being crowd funded but for some odd reason this site didn't mention the game at all.

Also, those aren't ponies.

This is ponies

There is a difference, although the game did start off as a pony game before they got C&Ced.

Oh look. Chris Hansen deciding to ruin more peoples lives with fabricated evidence. At least this time he wont have a literal psychotic person running the investigations. That person is busy ruining Twitter now.

I never thought I'd see the day when a kiddy-fiddler fishing show got crowd-funded.

I ought to find a production company and pitch my idea; sending batty mercenaries to hunt for poachers in African wildlife reserves. "The Most Dangerous Game."

I've seen a small section of the "catch a predator" show and it's so fucking tasteless I couldn't believe it.

I'm a big fan of edgy black comedy and lots of really fucked up shit but this really sickened me. The closest thing to a public stoning that America has. It very likely does more harm then help and is a show for people who think punishment is far more important than prevention.

JaredJones:

According to a report published by the New Republic, Hansen first called up the Fairfield police department in mid-August, informing them that he would be setting up a sex sting not unlike the ones he became famous for on NBC, with the lone exception being that neither NBC nor any major network would be involved this time around. It was not a request, but more a warning, and the Fairfield police department was pretty much powerless to prevent Hansen from moving forward with his operation. Ultimately, Fairfield's deputy police chief, Christopher Lyddy, decided that his department's involvement would ensure that these stings went off as smoothly as planned and agreed to lend assistance.

"We thought long and hard about this," said Lyddy, "but at the end of the day we completely understood that this was going to happen no matter what, and that we really had a responsibility to become involved and to ensure this neighborhood was safe."

So, like the first time around, he's wasting police resources for fame.

Given the salacious and exploitative nature of Hansen's stings, there have obviously been a few naysayers who argue that shows like To Catch a Predator are doing more harm than good. Among the accusations leveled at Hansen is the belief that, "by subjecting the merely accused to the potential of mass humiliation, the show neglects the common notion of innocent until proven guilty." Many of these concerns seem rooted in the particularly grisly case of Louis Conradt Jr., an assistant district attorney in Murphy, Texas who shot himself during a confrontation with SWAT while Hansen's crew waited outside his home. Conradt's family later received an undisclosed sum from NBC to settle a wrongful death suit against the network.

I actually remember even Law and Order SVU had an episode about it that surprisingly showed the realities and background of how this ends up working.

But according to Hansen, the risk is worth the reward

Says the guy taking no risks.

-- the reward being that potentially dangerous predators are being taken off the streets. "As Fairfield demonstrated, this is still very much a huge issue," said Hansen. "We just made that the safest neighborhood in America."

Hanson cannot into crime statistics.
So, he's basically set up the same thing as last time sans probably Perverted Justice and this time he doesn't have a sufficient legal team to defend himself from the inevitable lawsuits and everyone he catches already has a grand defense in court for entrapment. On another note, jesus he has not aged well.

RJ 17:
The only thing funnier than this show was the episode of South Park that referenced it.

LegendaryGamer0:

JaredJones:

According to a report published by the New Republic, Hansen first called up the Fairfield police department in mid-August, informing them that he would be setting up a sex sting not unlike the ones he became famous for on NBC, with the lone exception being that neither NBC nor any major network would be involved this time around. It was not a request, but more a warning, and the Fairfield police department was pretty much powerless to prevent Hansen from moving forward with his operation. Ultimately, Fairfield's deputy police chief, Christopher Lyddy, decided that his department's involvement would ensure that these stings went off as smoothly as planned and agreed to lend assistance.

"We thought long and hard about this," said Lyddy, "but at the end of the day we completely understood that this was going to happen no matter what, and that we really had a responsibility to become involved and to ensure this neighborhood was safe."

So, like the first time around, he's wasting police resources for fame.

Given the salacious and exploitative nature of Hansen's stings, there have obviously been a few naysayers who argue that shows like To Catch a Predator are doing more harm than good. Among the accusations leveled at Hansen is the belief that, "by subjecting the merely accused to the potential of mass humiliation, the show neglects the common notion of innocent until proven guilty." Many of these concerns seem rooted in the particularly grisly case of Louis Conradt Jr., an assistant district attorney in Murphy, Texas who shot himself during a confrontation with SWAT while Hansen's crew waited outside his home. Conradt's family later received an undisclosed sum from NBC to settle a wrongful death suit against the network.

I actually remember even Law and Order SVU had an episode about it that surprisingly showed the realities and background of how this ends up working.

But according to Hansen, the risk is worth the reward

Says the guy taking no risks.

-- the reward being that potentially dangerous predators are being taken off the streets. "As Fairfield demonstrated, this is still very much a huge issue," said Hansen. "We just made that the safest neighborhood in America."

Hanson cannot into crime statistics.
So, he's basically set up the same thing as last time sans probably Perverted Justice and this time he doesn't have a sufficient legal team to defend himself from the inevitable lawsuits and everyone he catches already has a grand defense in court for entrapment. On another note, jesus he has not aged well.

RJ 17:
The only thing funnier than this show was the episode of South Park that referenced it.

Considering that the psychotic (literal) in charge of perverted justice is now busy shitting up Twitter, I highly doubt Hansen can get them to fabricate evidence this time around.

All ethics aside, I'm surprised they wanted the show back. It was kind of the same thing after a while.

Wait, fabricated evidence? I thought the whole point of the series was posing as a child and finding people who express an interest in fucking them. And it all plays out on camera. How do you fabricate that?

Nailzzz:

dirtysteve:
Episode one: Sarah Nyberg

Was thinking the exact same thing. Between "her" and their supporters, I'm sure that Chris could get a full season out of that alone.

It'd break his brain, he'd never have encountered so many people willing to defedn paedophilia before!

I think A few people have have kind of expressed my opinion here, but this concept does leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth... Honestly tempting people with problems into traps and publicly shaming them without letting them have their due process is a bit off putting. I mean it's the worst kind of crime so its difficult to be to mad about anything, but at the same time its the most heavy handed accusation that it ruins lives even if it turns out to be just false.

I know there is really never a good time to say, "I know they're pedophiles but..." however that's why we have laws and that's why on principle we assume innocence until guilt can be proven.

I'm entirely unwilling to defend the sort of people who he profiles and entraps on his show. I know too many survivors to have any sort of sympathy due to the public shame and legal consequences that these men are put through as a result of Hansen's show. I have firsthand perspective on what they put their victims through. However there is a distinction of some importance between a pedophile and child molester. A pedophile has resources to help them, no matter how society has stigmatized their condition, they can get help. They can be voluntarily monitored, they can have a social worker assigned to them, they can attend support meetings. There are numerous pedophiles who would rather practice celibacy than rape, the people on Hansen's show are not like this. These are people who have made plans to rape a minor and attempted to carry them out, these plans are documented. These people are child molesters or attempted child molestors. And of the various criticisms that you could realistically level at Hansen's peculiar brand of vigilantism, the veracity of these people's crimes is not one. They ARE given due process after the tapes stop rolling, but you can bet your ass they'll be found guilty, because the evidence is incontrovertible. If you have a problem with a civilian performing these sorts of stings, that's one thing, but these tactics (the cyber fishing, not Hansen's whole dog and pony show afterward) are used at the federal level to investigate and break up child pornagraphy rings.

Arnoxthe1:
All ethics aside, I'm surprised they wanted the show back. It was kind of the same thing after a while.

This was the most puzzling thing to me too. I mean it's by nature very formulaic. I never watched it when it was on because I tend to stay away from stuff that I know will actively infuriate me, but from what people have told me it followed a pretty basic setup, breakdown of the fake bait profile, show some responses, investigation, the sit down, then police custody.

I always had the sneaking suspicion that people were watching in case someone did something desperate and dangerous. Kinda like how people watch Nascar for the crashes.

Wow...

Just...

The fact that was ever on the air in the first place is just...

Wow...

Shit like this, is why I don't watch TV. Jesus tap-dancing fucking christ, Americans.

How Chris hasn't been harmed has always shocked me. Surely there is some sort of overlap between pedophiles and gun carriers... I hope they keep him safe.

BeerTent:
Wow...

Just...

The fact that was ever on the air in the first place is just...

Wow...

Shit like this, is why I don't watch TV. Jesus tap-dancing fucking christ, Americans.

Not seeing the show doesn't mean this sort of thing isn't happening wherever you are. This informed the public of an actual threat.

RJ 17:
The only thing funnier than this show was the episode of South Park that referenced it.

What did they say about the show? I don't watch south park.

Lightknight:
How Chris hasn't been harmed has always shocked me. Surely there is some sort of overlap between pedophiles and gun carriers... I hope they keep him safe.

BeerTent:
Wow...

Just...

The fact that was ever on the air in the first place is just...

Wow...

Shit like this, is why I don't watch TV. Jesus tap-dancing fucking christ, Americans.

Not seeing the show doesn't mean this sort of thing isn't happening wherever you are. This informed the public of an actual threat.

You would need to be pretty ignorant if you didn't think that child molestation happens worldwide.

Making money, however, by ignoring established human rights, and destroying any possible chance of rehabilitation while mocking your own countries CJS? The perversion of making this some kind of dull entertainment? That's the part that disgusts me.

Leave this shit to professionals. Not some backwards shitcannon with a camera crew and a lust for money.

Why not bring the stocks out while you at it? If you pay five dollars digitally they throw any kind of fruit or vegetable in their face, ten dollars for a football or soccer ball to be knocked into their face, and a hundred dollars to have a professional pitchers throw one right in the noggin. And it'll be broadcasted on a premium cable among the likes of HBO. And we'll sell live audience seats. A guy walks in and bam, 50,000 people in the living room. I mean fuck fair and even-handedness, whats this "justice" garbage getting in the way of the justice system?

I've never had a high opinion of this dog and pony show shit. Some things simply should not be for profit and the government's side of the justice system is one of them.

BeerTent:

Lightknight:
How Chris hasn't been harmed has always shocked me. Surely there is some sort of overlap between pedophiles and gun carriers... I hope they keep him safe.

BeerTent:
Wow...

Just...

The fact that was ever on the air in the first place is just...

Wow...

Shit like this, is why I don't watch TV. Jesus tap-dancing fucking christ, Americans.

Not seeing the show doesn't mean this sort of thing isn't happening wherever you are. This informed the public of an actual threat.

You would need to be pretty ignorant if you didn't think that child molestation happens worldwide.

Making money, however, by ignoring established human rights, and destroying any possible chance of rehabilitation while mocking your own countries CJS? The perversion of making this some kind of dull entertainment? That's the part that disgusts me.

Leave this shit to professionals. Not some backwards shitcannon with a camera crew and a lust for money.

Who cares? They're pedophiles being caught red handed.

What's more is they actually sign away the rights to be depicted in the video on TV willingly. They're also working hand in hand with law enforcement the whole way.

So who are you actually defending here? Caught-in-the-act pedophiles? And why? Because of a TV show making a living off of catching them on camera?

Look, the shows don't just shame these nutters, they also inform parents on the tactics these people use and also on how common they are. But if you think these people need to be protected then your priorities are all messed up here.

MarsAtlas:
Why not bring the stocks out while you at it? If you pay five dollars digitally they throw any kind of fruit or vegetable in their face, ten dollars for a football or soccer ball to be knocked into their face, and a hundred dollars to have a professional pitchers throw one right in the noggin. And it'll be broadcasted on a premium cable among the likes of HBO. And we'll sell live audience seats. A guy walks in and bam, 50,000 people in the living room. I mean fuck fair and even-handedness, whats this "justice" garbage getting in the way of the justice system?

I've never had a high opinion of this dog and pony show shit. Some things simply should not be for profit and the government's side of the justice system is one of them.

Pedophiles. Caught. In the act.

Maybe pick a different group of people to protect here? As near as I can tell, the show isn't doing anything differently than Cops. It's just capturing normal legal processes taking place with the small addition of interviewing the individual. I'm not sure what you think is happening to impact the law. Maybe these people shouldn't try to fuck children.

Having video of a crime being committed isn't an affront to "innocent until proven guilty". It is literally the proof itself.

Happyninja42:

RJ 17:
The only thing funnier than this show was the episode of South Park that referenced it.

What did they say about the show? I don't watch south park.

Basically that Chris Hansen has some sort of hypnotic power. When he says the phrase "Why don't you take a seat right over there" you must do as he asks.

The episode isn't specifically about pedophiles, basically Cartmen discovers the existence of Tourettes Syndrome which he perceives as a golden ticket to be as foul mouthed, offensive, and obnoxious as he wants in public and then just say "I've got Tourettes so you can't get mad at me." He's all set up to do an interview with Hansen about Tourettes, but then he actually develops it in the form of just blurting out very embarrassing secrets about himself. He wants to call it off, but Hansen uses his mystical hypnotic powers to essentially force Cartmen to do the show...much like what Hansen apparently did to the police department in this article, actually. :P

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