The Raid: Redemption Remake Loses Star, Director, and Studio

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The Raid: Redemption Remake Loses Star, Director, and Studio

This might be one of those rare cases where "sometimes, dead is better."

There is perhaps no martial arts movie released in the modern era that has received more praise than The Raid: Redemption.

Released in 2011, The Raid is 101 glorious minutes of blood-soaked, balls-to-the-wall violence so beautiful choreographed that it should've won a Tony award above all else. The same can be said for its 2014 sequel, Berandal, which has been dubbed as "The Godfather of martial arts films" by those who have seen it. (If you don't believe them, just check out the fight scene above and tell me that they're wrong.)

But there is one problem with The Raid: It's Indonesian! Yes, despite having approximately 20 lines of dialogue in the entire movie, the idea of giving a foreign movie with subtitles the wide release it deserves here in the States is just too far a bridge to cross for most studios, which is why an American remake of The Raid was announced in 2012.

Little was revealed about the remake in the years that followed, other than that original director Gareth Evans would be signing on as an executive producer and that Taylor Kitsch had been cast in the lead role. The film was set to begin production in January of 2015, but due to several undisclosed delays, Kitsch eventually dropped out of the project entirely.

Which brings us to today, when The Raid remake received another pair of blows in the form of its backing studio and its director, who have both backed out of the film. (via Tracking Board):

Sources have confirmed to the Tracking Board that Expendables 3 helmer Patrick Hughes is out as director of The Raid remake. In addition, we're hearing that the project is no longer at Screen Gems, and that XYZ Films is now the sole production company on the film.

With Screen Gems-and therefore Sony-out of the picture, producers are no doubt seeking a new distributor for the film. XYZ Films has taken over sole production duties, with Aram Tertzakian, Nate Bolotin and Nick Spencer producing, while Kyle Franke oversees for the shingle.

The lone bit of good news to come out of this story is that Warrior and Purge 2 star Frank Grillo, who was previously attached to star in the remake before Kitsch got involved, is back in as the film's lead. While he obviously doesn't bring the kind of martial arts expertise to the role that original star Iko Uwais did, Grillo's previous roles in action-heavy fare offers a little more hope that he'll be able to pull it off than, say, John Carter.

Then again, I'd have no objections if this remake never saw the light of day, especially considering that we already get what was basically a remake of The Raid with 2012's Dredd.

Source: Tracking Board

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There already is an English version of the Raid: Redemption... it's called Dredd.

Go fuck yourself Hollywood. Who thought it was a good idea to remake a goddamn martial arts movie???!

I will fight you all to defend the honor of Dredd, since its script came first. The Raid is a remake of Dredd, a movie that did not exist at the time. That somehow works, damn you.

You can translate the dialogue but can you find any American as accomplished in pencak silat as Iko Uwais?

Which of these do you think is more important for this film? It's like making a sign language version of a Musical!

Can't some Hollywood studio just take the cheep way out and just dub over the original for the 4 people who will watch it without subtitles?

America, repainting the Mona Lisa since 1776.

I have to second the opinion that Dredd is the western The Raid, especially since it takes a western approach to violence of just shooting up everything.

I also wonder why The Raid got the subtitle over here, it really doesn't need anymore in the title than it's title, which is just The Raid.

What? There are english dubs for both raid movies. They aren't terribly good, but wouldn't making a better dub be cheaper than remaking the entire movie?

Remaking the movie essentially removes the one good thing about it: the martial arts. How can anyone expect to get a hit just out of mimicking its stupid plot? (Or perhaps it's the name they were banking on?) And no, it's not Dredd, which may have also been set in an apartment building fighting against drug lords, but is otherwise completely distinct, with a much better script.

I thought The Raid did get release to the West? Even then I had no problem watching it with English subtitles.

Also Hollywood should learn by now that western remake of asian films are nowhere near superior to the original source-

Old Boy
My Sassy Girl
Il Mare/ The Lake House
Ring

Good. Leave it alone. If you can't handle the subtitles with a movie that's pretty much all action you need to take a long, hard look at yourself.

The Gentleman:
Can't some Hollywood studio just take the cheep way out and just dub over the original for the 4 people who will watch it without subtitles?

Nope! America's got to have a white-bread American in the lead position or we just can't "get into" it.

Ftaghn To You Too:
I will fight you all to defend the honor of Dredd, since its script came first. The Raid is a remake of Dredd, a movie that did not exist at the time. That somehow works, damn you.

Honestly, both films were glorious for different reasons and they were released too close to each other for one to have 'ripped off' the other without some sort of insider knowledge, which seems unlikely given one of the films was Indonesian.

OT: Good, it's healthy for people to get outside their comfort zone. Peeps wanna see Rama kill a dude with a broken door, they gotta be willing to put in the effort, which isn't much considering all you gotta do is read a hand full of freaking lines!

devilmore:
What? There are english dubs for both raid movies. They aren't terribly good, but wouldn't making a better dub be cheaper than remaking the entire movie?

Scarim Coral:
I thought The Raid did get release to the West? Even then I had no problem watching it with English subtitles.

It got a release here in the UK but only in select cinemas, I saw it at the 'artsy' Odeon down in Covent Garden after I saw MovieBob's review. Saw that trailer and I knew I had to get my brother and myself to see it.

PunkRex:

devilmore:
What? There are english dubs for both raid movies. They aren't terribly good, but wouldn't making a better dub be cheaper than remaking the entire movie?

Scarim Coral:
I thought The Raid did get release to the West? Even then I had no problem watching it with English subtitles.

It got a release here in the UK but only in select cinemas, I saw it at the 'artsy' Odeon down in Covent Garden after I saw MovieBob's review. Saw that trailer and I knew I had to get my brother and myself to see it.

Ah. Silly me, assuming that americans could just watch an english dub, of course they need their own version.

Die, die, die!

I've had it out for these foreign film remakes ever since I saw Quarantine, which I saw not knowing it was a remake of REC. It kind of ruined REC for me a bit, which was a huge shame because REC was great. The Raid is superb and I hope this dies a painful and public death, hopefully so loud that it brings more attention to the original since it deserves it. It says a lot that the only action movie that has come close to, let alone topped, The Raid since I've seen it is Fury Road.

Also Dredd's script came before The Raid, they were released way too close to each other to rip each other off, but you're right in calling it the western remake because in a way it is, since Dredd uses violence favoured in american action cinema the way The Raid uses violence in east asian action cinema. You can watch both films back to back and see a lot of differences between what we differently value in action films, albeit Dredd admittedly had a far better script by the virtue of actually having one.

First thought: Wait, but we already have an English version of The Raid; Dredd.

Second thought: Are people really so hostile to the idea of watching a foreign films they need them to be remade in English?

Dredd? I can see the similarities, big block of flats run by a criminal and a goody brings it down but other than that not even close. Raid had amazing fight scenes, dredd had a good gun scene with machine guns.

Dredd is only getting love 'cos he has been around longer.

Wish the guy who did Raid, does the new star wars films ... always thought they lacked good fight scenes, even they make the Bane VS Batman fights look jaw dropping.

This may be the only smart career decision that Taylor Kitsch has made since "Friday Night Lights" ended.

Anyway, loved both Raid movies (saw them both in theaters) and I agree, the idea of doing a Western remake (especially considering how ludicrously simple Raid's plot is) is just plain dumb, but Christ, the butt-hurt over this is hysterical.

Bollywood remakes Hollywood movies so frequently it's become something of a running gag, but I don't hear anyone saying "hurr durr, Indians don't wanna read subtitles and can't stand to see non-Indian actors in their movies, they are so dumb, hurr durr".

Scarim Coral:
I thought The Raid did get release to the West? Even then I had no problem watching it with English subtitles.

Also Hollywood should learn by now that western remake of asian films are nowhere near superior to the original source-

Old Boy
My Sassy Girl
Il Mare/ The Lake House
Ring

It did, I actually saw it in Billings Montana of all places. In the same city that kept "Obamas America:2016" and "God is real" in the same theater I saw Raid in, for 6 months months straight.

OT: I own both on Bluray and have probably watched them a 100 times. Set piece as Dredd but very different. I think anyone still claiming ripoffs is doing so injest and all 3 films are amazing.

I have no interest in an american adaptation. Old Boy was not only a shitty remake it was just a terrible film. I'll be happy if they never try another go at it.

On the bright side, as far as I know, the next Raid movie is still in development though this one is a weird inbetweener or something. I'm sure itll be fine as long as its made by the same guys. What a lot of people overlook is what a great story this franchise has been telling. I doubt I've ever seen a movie tell so much in so little time. Also go watch "Man of Tai Chi" though I'm sure you all have. Strangely one of Keanu Reeves best roles and he's the Tekkenesque villain of all things. They should have called him Himachi.

Even though I hate foreign films - don't like reading when I'm trying to watch a movie - in this case I think it's best we leave this one alone. Americas/Europe don't have the abundance of martial arts stars that we had in the 80s and 90s and a film like this really deserves actors with a talent for kicking ass.

Ihateregistering1:
This may be the only smart career decision that Taylor Kitsch has made since "Friday Night Lights" ended.

Anyway, loved both Raid movies (saw them both in theaters) and I agree, the idea of doing a Western remake (especially considering how ludicrously simple Raid's plot is) is just plain dumb, but Christ, the butt-hurt over this is hysterical.

Bollywood remakes Hollywood movies so frequently it's become something of a running gag, but I don't hear anyone saying "hurr durr, Indians don't wanna read subtitles and can't stand to see non-Indian actors in their movies, they are so dumb, hurr durr".

Did it ever cross your mind that it might be because we don't see them here? It's not like those Bollywood movies are being made for us in the US. The other is. Which do you really think we'd be aware of to say anything about or even have much reason to comment on? The one marketed to our countries or the one marketed to India?

Secondhand Revenant:

Ihateregistering1:
This may be the only smart career decision that Taylor Kitsch has made since "Friday Night Lights" ended.

Anyway, loved both Raid movies (saw them both in theaters) and I agree, the idea of doing a Western remake (especially considering how ludicrously simple Raid's plot is) is just plain dumb, but Christ, the butt-hurt over this is hysterical.

Bollywood remakes Hollywood movies so frequently it's become something of a running gag, but I don't hear anyone saying "hurr durr, Indians don't wanna read subtitles and can't stand to see non-Indian actors in their movies, they are so dumb, hurr durr".

Did it ever cross your mind that it might be because we don't see them here? It's not like those Bollywood movies are being made for us in the US. The other is. Which do you really think we'd be aware of to say anything about or even have much reason to comment on? The one marketed to our countries or the one marketed to India?

Then it's even more hilarious, because they're only showing their own ignorance of what's going on outside their borders while trying to make fun of others for not being 'aware' enough of what's going on outside their borders.

So because Joe Popcorn doesn't know how to read subtitles (or probably in general) some godawful fucking studio is gonna make a shitty remake where halfway through we get a forced romance.

Oh and there will be jump cuts.

Everywhere.

You know....

The very thing that a lack of made The Raid and The Raid 2: Electric Boogaloo so good (or one very big contributing factor at least).

Ihateregistering1:

Secondhand Revenant:

Ihateregistering1:
This may be the only smart career decision that Taylor Kitsch has made since "Friday Night Lights" ended.

Anyway, loved both Raid movies (saw them both in theaters) and I agree, the idea of doing a Western remake (especially considering how ludicrously simple Raid's plot is) is just plain dumb, but Christ, the butt-hurt over this is hysterical.

Bollywood remakes Hollywood movies so frequently it's become something of a running gag, but I don't hear anyone saying "hurr durr, Indians don't wanna read subtitles and can't stand to see non-Indian actors in their movies, they are so dumb, hurr durr".

Did it ever cross your mind that it might be because we don't see them here? It's not like those Bollywood movies are being made for us in the US. The other is. Which do you really think we'd be aware of to say anything about or even have much reason to comment on? The one marketed to our countries or the one marketed to India?

Then it's even more hilarious, because they're only showing their own ignorance of what's going on outside their borders while trying to make fun of others for not being 'aware' enough of what's going on outside their borders.

It's hilarious if people are annoyed by it and someone else on the other side of the world does it to? Is it somehow supposed to be less annoying or dumb? They aren't even trying to make fun of someone for not being aware of stuff outside their borders. People are mocking the idea that a martial arts film that's apparently mostly action needs to be remade for Americans

Scarim Coral:
I thought The Raid did get release to the West? Even then I had no problem watching it with English subtitles.

Also Hollywood should learn by now that western remake of asian films are nowhere near superior to the original source-

Old Boy
My Sassy Girl
Il Mare/ The Lake House
Ring

you forgot
Infernal affairs/ The Departed

honestly IA was better than the Departed by miles IMHO.

the raid is unique in its own way and doesnt need any americanized version of it. they will do more wrong than right. are people really that stupid and unable to read some subtitles?
i havent seen in any movie such realistic fight scenes as the raid. and im not even a martial arts fan and i enjoyed the raid 1 and 2 a lot. hell, was even one of the reasons i started to do kickboxing.
and as many have stated: we have dredd. and this was really damn good too. just no martial arts but at least close enough to the comics.

Sigh... Well good thing I have them both on Bluray (and Dredd), so I will just keep my fingers in my ears from now on...
Speaking of the Indonesian language version, Cracked did a REALLLLY funny article on watching the movie with fansubs. Those where SO bad... it's just too hilarious for words.

I'm curious; where the merry hell would they have set this hypothetical remake?

I just can't see anywhere in modern America where an entire SWAT team can be basically massacred by a gang of crims in a slum without it attracting the attention of every other SWAT team in the state, the media and if shit got super real and they decided to upgrade said gang from 'criminals' to 'terrorists', presumably federal or military counter terrorism units.

So yeah, better the direct remake remain deader than Julius Caesar and those who want a similar film can watch Dredd. That said, step outside the zone a bit and watch The Raid anyway - the story is so simple you probably don't need the subtitles since you can largely infer what's going by the tone of the scene and the way the characters talk to one another.

So I leave you with this:

So. People dont uderstand, why they're not just dubing the original for a wide re-release.

To give you the only reason necessary: Money!

Sure they would make a pile of money with a tiny investment. But who would win that way? So instead, they do the usual thing, call for a remake, invest millions, and bet on multiplying that amount with a country wide and international remake-release. It doesn't matter if the film is shit or not. It sells on the good name "The Raid" alone. And if the movie IS bad, they cann blame the original for not having much substance and wash their hands in all the money they made.

They can overinflate budgets, place products and film in locations like the ihop. Everyone wins! (except for the audience, but who cares about them? They already paid)

Is it weird to say The Raid was kinda inspired by the late great Bruce Lee's unfinished project The game of death?

How has no one posted the Kitchen Fight from the second movie yet as an example for how without this director and these actors, this would be a terrible idea.


Also, Wesley Snipes or Jason Statham as the lead character or BUST!

fix-the-spade:

I also wonder why The Raid got the subtitle over here, it really doesn't need anymore in the title than it's title, which is just The Raid.

I remember reading in an interview somewhere it had something to do with a bunch of Hollywood red tape nonsense. They wanted to call it just The Raid, but couldn't get clearance for that title, so they had to add the Redemption subtitle to it. Even Sony couldn't get whoever it was that was holding them up to clear the name.

On-topic, I really don't see this as a movie that needed a remake, for how thin the plot really was. So I can't say I'm terribly saddened to see the remake get canned.

Gordon_4:

I just can't see anywhere in modern America where an entire SWAT team can be basically massacred by a gang of crims in a slum without it attracting the attention of every other SWAT team in the state, the media and if shit got super real and they decided to upgrade said gang from 'criminals' to 'terrorists', presumably federal or military counter terrorism units.

Detroit would be the only one I could really think of. I mean, no one really batted an eye in "Assault on Precinct 13" when it was an entire department of crooked Detroit Cops, and there are huge chunks of Detroit that are essentially abandoned now, so it would be realistic to imagine a high-rise that is completely controlled by a Gang.

Regardless, please let this remake die while it still has some dignity to spare.

Secondhand Revenant:
SNIP

Yes, but my point is that people are attempting to use this as some sort of condemnation of American culture, while completely ignoring the fact that it's done all the time by a different culture, but I guess you don't get smug elitist points for making fun of Indian culture and Bollywood.

This will be one of the few times where I'd have seen the source material before the actual remake. I never saw the original Old Boy or Ring, and so on.
So I'll be watching an American remake of the Raid (I've seen both of them with subtitles) and see how ours holds up (It probably won't).

Chester Rabbit:
How has no one posted the Kitchen Fight from the second movie yet as an example for how without this director and these actors, this would be a terrible idea.


Also, Wesley Snipes or Jason Statham as the lead character or BUST!

that is indeed an amazing fight scenes as well. already the fight before that was awesome too. generally the appearance of the baseball guy and hammer girl have also an impressive and unforgettable scenes.

Ihateregistering1:
This may be the only smart career decision that Taylor Kitsch has made since "Friday Night Lights" ended.

Anyway, loved both Raid movies (saw them both in theaters) and I agree, the idea of doing a Western remake (especially considering how ludicrously simple Raid's plot is) is just plain dumb, but Christ, the butt-hurt over this is hysterical.

Bollywood remakes Hollywood movies so frequently it's become something of a running gag, but I don't hear anyone saying "hurr durr, Indians don't wanna read subtitles and can't stand to see non-Indian actors in their movies, they are so dumb, hurr durr".

A lot of countries have made remakes of US movies because their people simply don't have any access to those movies. Yet the US could very easily import foreign movies but people from the US insist on changing everything to having the US as the centre of the universe. Because the US is the world, according to the US anyway.

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