Stick Around: The Predator 4 Script Is Finished

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Stick Around: The Predator 4 Script Is Finished

Predator

If it inks, they can script it.

We haven't heard many new developments regarding Predator 4 since the project was announced by Iron Man 3 director (and "Hawkins" from the 1987 original) Shane Black over the summer, and maybe that's for the best. What's being labeled as an "inventive sequel" that "reinvents the franchise" by Black and producer John Davis probably requires a certain amount of secrecy in order to be effective, which coincidentally, would be the last word you would use to describe the majority of Predator sequels up 'till now (the mostly-fun Predators excluding*).

Yesterday, however, we were given a somewhat huge announcement regarding the sequel from co-writer Fred Dekker, who took to Facebook to announce that the script for Predator 4: This Time It's Personal (not the actual title) had just been completed.

"A character from the new screenplay we turned in," wrote Dekker alongside some fan art from 7-year-old Angus Herndon, begging the question: Who let's a 7-year-old watch Predator?!

As we said, little about the Predator 4 plot or potential cast has been revealed other than the fact that it won't feature any of the players from 2010's Predators or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger, which makes sense given the "fresh perspective" Black is hoping to achieve in this totally-not-a-reboot-sequel.

"(It's not a reboot) as far as Fred and I are concerned anyway. Why start over, when you've all this rich mythology yet to mine?," said Black in an interview with Collider. "(However, I can) really get behind inventive sequels (and) the idea of expanding and exploring the existing Predator mythology, rather than hitting the restart button."

Black makes a good point. The mythology of Predator stretches a lot deeper than most movie monsters -- they've mastered space and time travel, for starters -- but has been neglectfully reduced to little more than "alien hunters" in recent follow-up efforts. Personally, I hope the "inventive" angle Black explores relates to the Predators backstory, and more specifically, how they come from a society that both possesses technological capabilities literal light years beyond ours, yet still resorts to primitive skull collecting for entertainment and/or honor.

And on that note, this!

*I also happen to be a fan of the Danny Glover-starring Predator 2 aka Predator: Back 2 Da Streets, but understand why it currently sits at 23% on Rotten Tomatoes.

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RIP Jungle.

Seriously cannot wait for what they have in store for this new installment.

On a side note I also liked Predator 2 a lot.

Not holding my breath for this to be released.

JaredJones:

Black makes a good point. The mythology of Predator stretches a lot deeper than most movie monsters -- they've mastered space and time travel, for starters

Wait, when did Predators time travel?

Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

Jadak:

JaredJones:

Black makes a good point. The mythology of Predator stretches a lot deeper than most movie monsters -- they've mastered space and time travel, for starters

Wait, when did Predators time travel?

I don't think they have as such, but their collection of skulls and artifacts suggests they've been hunting humans for a LONG time.

They need someone who could credibly best a Predator. The thing that put me off Predator 2 for life was the idea that Danny Glover could kill a, albeit teenage, Predator. Either that or just make the Predator kill all the characters and go home. That's how I'd write the script. Send the audience home with that defeated feeling.

A couple of things -

1) Since when did the Yautja have time travel?
2) People didn't like Predator 2?

Loop Stricken:
A couple of things -

1) Since when did the Yautja have time travel?
2) People didn't like Predator 2?

{1} Possibly the comics, but the only evidence I've ever seen in-movie is how they have dinosaur trophies and Xenomorph Trophies. HOWEVER, I would state that this just means they've been around a LONG fucking time.

{2} Agreed. I call bullshit. I loved Pred 2.

OT: Eagerly awaiting the kill here.

For a Predator film the script being finished doesn't excite me, why bother to much about the script, what they should focus on is getting the ordnance delivery finished.

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

If we take into account the only good Predator movie, he's only partially slowed down by twigs and mud. He's killed by sheer luck.

OT: The 80's action movie mindset is dead, and so too is the Predator franchise. And I think we all know what delving into the lore of iconic movie monsters leads to. The Predator was cool because he looked awesome and was mostly shrouded in mystery.

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

Well...largely yeah in a way...most of the Predators that hunt humans are like some of the younger ones after all. Humans are apparently just a sorta largely boring species to hunt that has more exceptions to the rule than most. Also something something they're crab-people and they like that we have some REALLY hot seasons they find themselves at home in.

Essentially we're just a playboy Predator's beach.

Casual Shinji:

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

If we take into account the only good Predator movie, he's only partially slowed down by twigs and mud. He's killed by sheer luck.

OT: The 80's action movie mindset is dead, and so too is the Predator franchise. And I think we all know what delving into the lore of iconic movie monsters leads to. The Predator was cool because he looked awesome and was mostly shrouded in mystery.

I remember reading in the extended lore somewhere that the Predator in the first movie was the equivalent of a teenager and the one in Predator 2 was "unblooded" (i.e. no kills yet) and even younger still.

I thought it was established that the more green the Predator was at hunting the more weapons it used (the pinnacle of achievement being bringing down an Alien queen with wristblades only). Alien vs Predator Requiem seemed to shun this and have the Predator throw every-goddamn-thing at them.

Programmed_For_Damage:

Casual Shinji:

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

If we take into account the only good Predator movie, he's only partially slowed down by twigs and mud. He's killed by sheer luck.

OT: The 80's action movie mindset is dead, and so too is the Predator franchise. And I think we all know what delving into the lore of iconic movie monsters leads to. The Predator was cool because he looked awesome and was mostly shrouded in mystery.

I remember reading in the extended lore somewhere that the Predator in the first movie was the equivalent of a teenager and the one in Predator 2 was "unblooded" (i.e. no kills yet) and even younger still.

I thought it was established that the more green the Predator was at hunting the more weapons it used (the pinnacle of achievement being bringing down an Alien queen with wristblades only). Alien vs Predator Requiem seemed to shun this and have the Predator throw every-goddamn-thing at them.

To be fair, it was sorta an exception to the rule I think, I don't think they count Aliens that come out of Predators as worthy hunts so much as abominations that need to be destroyed for one reason or another.

Programmed_For_Damage:
I remember reading in the extended lore somewhere that the Predator in the first movie was the equivalent of a teenager and the one in Predator 2 was "unblooded" (i.e. no kills yet) and even younger still.

I thought it was established that the more green the Predator was at hunting the more weapons it used (the pinnacle of achievement being bringing down an Alien queen with wristblades only). Alien vs Predator Requiem seemed to shun this and have the Predator throw every-goddamn-thing at them.

Yeah, from my understanding hunting humans is basically a "warm up hunt." The Predator has earned the right to go hunt, but isn't ready to take on a Xenomorph and become an official blooded hunter.

As for Requiem, that's because Lone Wolf (which is apparently what they named the Pred in that movie) wasn't sent there on a hunt...he was sent as a cleaning crew. He had two primary objectives.

1: Destroy all evidence of the Predators themselves as well as their technology.
2: Destroy all the Xenomorphs to prevent Earth - a favored hunting spot for the Predators - from being completely overrun. Had the Predator not shown up to confront the Xenomorphs and keep them in the town, the town would be been quickly overrun and the infestation would have rapidly spread. Per alien lore: if a single queen - or in this case a Predalien which was capable of creating drones - were to be unleashed on Earth, we'd all be royally boned. :P

Anyways, as a "cleaner", he was authorized to use any and all means necessary - including rockin' out with dual shouldercannons - in order to complete his mission. He wasn't on a hunt for honor, he was on a mission to destroy everything.

...does make me wonder why the Preds decided only sending one Predator was a good idea, though. I'd imagine a standard 3-Predator squad would be more appropriate considering a containment/secrecy breach of that scale. :P

Loop Stricken:
1) Since when did the Yautja have time travel?

Nice to see someone else that knows the actual name of the Predator race. :D

OT:
Of the two, I've always been more of a Predator fan than an Aliens fan. That's not to say I don't like the Xenomorphs - in fact they're my best species in the AvP FPS's :3 - but I just like the Predators more. As such I can't wait for a new Predator movie!

Personally, though, I think they need to take one more shot at an AvP movie (though I actually enjoyed both of the AvP movies we've gotten so far :P)...but if they want one that will really please the audiences they need to stop setting them in modern day and instead set it in the Alien universe so we can have Aliens, Predators, and Colonial Marines.

You know how sweet Aliens is? Just imagine that but with a single Predator sneaking around to make things even more interesting.

That or just take the story from AvP2 on the PC and turn that into a movie. :3

Programmed_For_Damage:

Casual Shinji:

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

If we take into account the only good Predator movie, he's only partially slowed down by twigs and mud. He's killed by sheer luck.

OT: The 80's action movie mindset is dead, and so too is the Predator franchise. And I think we all know what delving into the lore of iconic movie monsters leads to. The Predator was cool because he looked awesome and was mostly shrouded in mystery.

I remember reading in the extended lore somewhere that the Predator in the first movie was the equivalent of a teenager and the one in Predator 2 was "unblooded" (i.e. no kills yet) and even younger still.

I thought it was established that the more green the Predator was at hunting the more weapons it used (the pinnacle of achievement being bringing down an Alien queen with wristblades only). Alien vs Predator Requiem seemed to shun this and have the Predator throw every-goddamn-thing at them.

Well TBH Requiem felt very much like a Seal Team 6 situation - an evil monster wiped out an entire crew of Preds so they sent their best to hunt it down, any means necessary - and available.

Which one was Predator 3 then?

The one with Topher Grace? Or the other 2 AVP ones?

I have no idea how or why Topher Grace keeps getting roles. Everything he is in, including That 70s Show would be better without him.

KoudelkaMorgan:
Which one was Predator 3 then?

The one with Topher Grace? Or the other 2 AVP ones?

I have no idea how or why Topher Grace keeps getting roles. Everything he is in, including That 70s Show would be better without him.

Damn, you beat me too that. yeah, as far as I know there wasn't a Predator 3. We had Predator, Predator 2, Predators, but no 3.

KoudelkaMorgan:
Snip.

And

Worgen:
Snap.

Indeed, Predators is technically Predator 3...given that it's the 3rd movie in the franchise. :P

Naldan:
Not holding my breath for this to be released.

Why? The qualities of the different Predator (and Alien) movies have differed greatly over the years, but they've always remained profitable.

Redryhno:

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

Well...largely yeah in a way...most of the Predators that hunt humans are like some of the younger ones after all. Humans are apparently just a sorta largely boring species to hunt that has more exceptions to the rule than most. Also something something they're crab-people and they like that we have some REALLY hot seasons they find themselves at home in.

Essentially we're just a playboy Predator's beach.

Actually, one of the AvP Predator novels (War) establishes that humans rank quite high up in the yautja food chain. They divide their prey into "hard meat" and "soft meat" (actual yautja words exist for those terms), with xenomorphs being "the ultimate hard meat" and humans "the ultimate soft meat." That while humans are weak physically, their "stingers" (firearms) are enough to give yautja pause.

Anyway, to be honest, the yautja have never particuarly interested me as a species, and it doesn't help that especially in fan circles, there's a tendency to make them protagonists (e.g. ff.net has a plenthora of ScarxLex stories...yes, really). Guys, they're killers. They may have a code of honour, but it doesn't stop them from going out and slaughtering sapient species, or using them as breeders for xenomorphs. I actually enjoy Predators in addition to the first Predator (never seen Predator 2), but it's because the yautja are adversaries in these cases.

KoudelkaMorgan:
Which one was Predator 3 then?

The one with Topher Grace? Or the other 2 AVP ones?

I have no idea how or why Topher Grace keeps getting roles. Everything he is in, including That 70s Show would be better without him.

I disagree. He reminds me a lot of Tobey Maguire, in the way that he really cant do a lot of things, but he can do some things really good.
I loved Topher in 70s show. I thought he was hilarious. I also loved him in Predators. I did NOT however love him in Spiderman 3. He cant pull off tough guy. Its something about his squeaky voice.

Same with Tobey. I havent seen him in much, but he was perfect as the hitchiker in Fear and Loathing, and also perfect as the dweeby Peter Parker in Spiderman.

There are not a lot of roles for guys like that, but what they do, they do good.

OT: YAY! I'm a sucker for both Predator and Aliens. It'll get me to the cinema every time :D

Jadak:

JaredJones:

Black makes a good point. The mythology of Predator stretches a lot deeper than most movie monsters -- they've mastered space and time travel, for starters

Wait, when did Predators time travel?

I think he assumes that because the predator at the end of P2 has an old pistol, they must be able to time travel.
OR...perhaps they've just been coming to Earth a long time (a little more realistic)

RJ 17:

As for Requiem, that's because Lone Wolf (which is apparently what they named the Pred in that movie) wasn't sent there on a hunt...he was sent as a cleaning crew. He had two primary objectives.

1: Destroy all evidence of the Predators themselves as well as their technology.
2: Destroy all the Xenomorphs to prevent Earth - a favored hunting spot for the Predators - from being completely overrun. Had the Predator not shown up to confront the Xenomorphs and keep them in the town, the town would be been quickly overrun and the infestation would have rapidly spread. Per alien lore: if a single queen - or in this case a Predalien which was capable of creating drones - were to be unleashed on Earth, we'd all be royally boned. :P

Anyways, as a "cleaner", he was authorized to use any and all means necessary - including rockin' out with dual shouldercannons - in order to complete his mission. He wasn't on a hunt for honor, he was on a mission to destroy everything.

...does make me wonder why the Preds decided only sending one Predator was a good idea, though. I'd imagine a standard 3-Predator squad would be more appropriate considering a containment/secrecy breach of that scale. :P

Lone Wolf alone has the Fifth Freedom.

Looking forward to this but have to say, I did kind of hope for a direct sequel to Predators, I felt like they had further to go with that.

Casual Shinji:

OT: The 80's action movie mindset is dead, and so too is the Predator franchise. And I think we all know what delving into the lore of iconic movie monsters leads to. The Predator was cool because he looked awesome and was mostly shrouded in mystery.

This sums up my feelings. Predators (2010) was a fun movie that did some cool things with its' Predators and its' human cast, but making another "serious" Predator movie, especially one that tries to examine the Predator more closely? Bound to fail. It will either draw the ire of the Predator comic fans because it doesn't stick to "canon" or it will be so focused on providing them with their fill that it will alienate all other audiences.

Let's be real here, the Predator was a good monster because it looked awesome and was shrouded in mystery and because what little we learned only made it seem more terrifying (it hunts people for sport!). With everything we learn about the Predator it looses both mystery and the terrifying aspect. The best way to go with Predator (apart from letting it lie) would probably be to go all Saw on the franchise and have different people face a Predator (maybe the same Predator) in every movie without ever really giving us much background on the Predator itself. It hunts people, there is lots of action and gore and then it repeats.

JaredJones:
Who let's a 7-year-old watch Predator?!

I do, because all kids should watch Predator.

For the Predator fans out there, can highly recommend this short film that was made

Predator set in medieval times :)

the.chad:
For the Predator fans out there, can highly recommend this short film that was made

Predator set in medieval times :)

Remember watching that when it released. Was probably one of the best low budget straight-to-youtube films I've seen. They didn't try and get too complicated, just kept to the predator formula but in a cool setting that made a lot of sense.

As for the new film, the beauty of predator is that you can make an authentic experience on a pretty cheap budget. Rodriguez made Predators for $40 million and it raked in just under $130 million.

Point being, it works nicely when you don't 'try too hard'.

If they try and add too much pseudo depth to what is a franchise about a sweet looking alien killing people, I'm worried we'll end up with some kind of Prometheus abomination.

Just so long as those rumors that were flying around about John Cena taking the Arnie role aren't true, I'm happy.

the.chad:
For the Predator fans out there, can highly recommend this short film that was made

Predator set in medieval times :)

Predator vs. Knights? I am so fucking all over THAT!

Eh, I still think there's plenty of room to develop the Yautjas. AVP had some good stuff, for example, it just wasted it. No rubbish about how all cultures were created by the Yautjas, but just going round building giant temples and stuff everywhere.

Programmed_For_Damage:
They need someone who could credibly best a Predator. The thing that put me off Predator 2 for life was the idea that Danny Glover could kill a, albeit teenage, Predator. Either that or just make the Predator kill all the characters and go home. That's how I'd write the script. Send the audience home with that defeated feeling.

Eh, I don't have a problem with that. Especially as that particular one had just been shot up on a train, went to a slaughterhouse and got shot up more, and then Glover attacks it with a m16 with M203, and that's not what kills it. The thing takes an awful lot of killing.

Gethsemani:
Let's be real here, the Predator was a good monster because it looked awesome and was shrouded in mystery and because what little we learned only made it seem more terrifying (it hunts people for sport!). With everything we learn about the Predator it looses both mystery and the terrifying aspect. The best way to go with Predator (apart from letting it lie) would probably be to go all Saw on the franchise and have different people face a Predator (maybe the same Predator) in every movie without ever really giving us much background on the Predator itself. It hunts people, there is lots of action and gore and then it repeats.

Who would we get to face off against the Predator though? The first movie had Bill Duke, Jesse Ventura, Carl Weathers, Sonny Landham, and Arnold Schwarzenegger at peak physical condition. You couldn't dream of a better cast of action heroes. After you have the Predator go head to head with 80's Arnie, you can only go downhill from there.

Maybe if they went for a super gritty survivalist take as opposed to an action movie. No muscle-bound action star, no guns, no shoulder-mounted plasma cannon, or optic camo, not even any wristblades. Strip the franchise of all that, and just have a "normal" unarmed tough guy (Karl Urban, Oscar Isaac) versus an unarmed Predator in a lethal game of hide-'n-seek in a dark, dank jungle.

Casual Shinji:
Who would we get to face off against the Predator though? The first movie had Bill Duke, Jesse Ventura, Carl Weathers, Sonny Landham, and Arnold Schwarzenegger at peak physical condition. You couldn't dream of a better cast of action heroes. After you have the Predator go head to head with 80's Arnie, you can only go downhill from there.

Maybe if they went for a super gritty survivalist take as opposed to an action movie. No muscle-bound action star, no guns, no shoulder-mounted plasma cannon, or optic camo, not even any wristblades. Strip the franchise of all that, and just have a "normal" unarmed tough guy (Karl Urban, Oscar Isaac) versus an unarmed Predator in a lethal game of hide-'n-seek in a dark, dank jungle.

My idea was actually a lot more like Saw meets Predators. Get some sort of big name action actors (like Danny Trejo or Karl Urban) and some b-list or new actors and have the movies mostly focus on the desperation of trying to survive against a predator hunting you or focus on how awesome the Predator is when it outsmarts and out techs the humans. For variation you change up the location with every movie, so that one is a jungle, another an abandoned mine site, a sub urb etc. As you said, trying to go down the action route is pretty pointless since the first movie had an all-star cast of action heroes of a caliber that doesn't exist anymore.

[Kira Must Die]:

JaredJones:
Who let's a 7-year-old watch Predator?!

I do, because all kids should watch Predator.

I didn't think it would be that easy for someone to wholly defeat my logic, but there you go.

Programmed_For_Damage:

Casual Shinji:

008Zulu:
Yeah the build up Predators to be these super space hunters, but in all the movies, they are shown to be beaten by people using nothing more than twigs and mud. Are we getting the Predators who ride the short bus?

Maybe if they used some of the stories from the comics, we'd see what they are really like.

If we take into account the only good Predator movie, he's only partially slowed down by twigs and mud. He's killed by sheer luck.

OT: The 80's action movie mindset is dead, and so too is the Predator franchise. And I think we all know what delving into the lore of iconic movie monsters leads to. The Predator was cool because he looked awesome and was mostly shrouded in mystery.

I remember reading in the extended lore somewhere that the Predator in the first movie was the equivalent of a teenager and the one in Predator 2 was "unblooded" (i.e. no kills yet) and even younger still.

I thought it was established that the more green the Predator was at hunting the more weapons it used (the pinnacle of achievement being bringing down an Alien queen with wristblades only). Alien vs Predator Requiem seemed to shun this and have the Predator throw every-goddamn-thing at them.

That's because Wolf (The AVP-R predator) wasn't on a hunting expedition, he was on a combination ritualistic revenge killing spree to avenge T, who was implied to be a family member, as well as clean up expedition to prevent the establishment of a hive on Earth, which would ruin their game preserve.

There's a scene in the book AVP Hunter's Planet where they're using the equivalent of miniguns to trap a queen, and it's summed up as "This wasn't a hunt, this was war, and as with all wars there are no rules, only objectives."

OT: I'm really excited. I for one thought Predators was good, and Predator 2 wasn't awful. I especially liked the dude with the cane sword, as well as his confrontation with the predator himself.

RJ 17:

Programmed_For_Damage:
I remember reading in the extended lore somewhere that the Predator in the first movie was the equivalent of a teenager and the one in Predator 2 was "unblooded" (i.e. no kills yet) and even younger still.

I thought it was established that the more green the Predator was at hunting the more weapons it used (the pinnacle of achievement being bringing down an Alien queen with wristblades only). Alien vs Predator Requiem seemed to shun this and have the Predator throw every-goddamn-thing at them.

Yeah, from my understanding hunting humans is basically a "warm up hunt." The Predator has earned the right to go hunt, but isn't ready to take on a Xenomorph and become an official blooded hunter.

Other way around, actually. First you kill the Hard Meat, then you go for the Soft Meats. Gotta earn that acid scar first kiddies.

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