SMACH Z Cancels Handheld Steam Machine Kickstarter - Update

SMACH Z Cancels Handheld Steam Machine Kickstarter - Update

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The Smach Z Kickstarter has been cancelled to address backer concerns before launching a new campaign.

Update: Despite a strong campaign opening, the SMACH Z team has taken down its Kickstarter to address various concerns. The team describes various concerns in a new update, ranging from slowed progression, to producing a demo prototype, to strong demand for a Windows-based SMACH Z. It also promises that a new SMACH Z Kickstarter will be launched once those issues are addressed.

"This campaign has meant a lot of good stuff to us," it reads. "It let us see that lots of people are interested in SMACH Z. From loyal backers to people that shared the campaign through social media. We've received great feedback and we have seen people becoming authentic spreaders of their love for SMACH Z. It means that there's a market for this product. Our intention is to keep going and launch a new improved campaign ... to make sure that we can reach our goal!"

Source: Kickstarter

Original Story: If you're the kind of gamer who wishes you could play your Steam library on the go, odds are you're pretty interested in the SMACH Z. Originally announced last year as the "SteamBoy", this device promised to be the first handheld Steam Machine, offering the ability to play over 1000 SteamOS games without being tied to pesky cords. Sadly, after a few delays and renamings we still haven't had the chance to play it for ourselves. But perhaps we're nearing the final stretch - the development team has unveiled a new Kickstarter campaign to create the SMACH Z's consumer edition.

As a Steam Machine, the SMACH Z will have full access to any Linux game available in Steam, a list which includes Half-Life 2, Portal 2, Civilization V, BioShock Infinite, and many more. Since our last post, the team has upgraded its screen and internal memory to better support current games. The SMACH Z will come with a Steam Controller-styled layout, but can be fitted with optional adapters if you prefer physical controls over its touchpads. The current specs for the basic model are listed below:

  • AMD embedded G-Series SoC "Steppe Eagle" with Jaguar-based CPU and GCN based Radeon graphics.
  • 4 GB RAM memory.
  • 64GB internal memory and SD Card Slot.
  • USB OTG and USB 3.0
  • 5-inch Touch screen with 1080p resolution.
  • Configurable tactile gamepads.
  • HDMI video output connection.
  • Wi-Fi connectivity.Bluetooth connectivity. 4G mobile network connectivity (PRO model only).

The Kickstarter also doubles as the SMACH Z's pre-order campaign, offering the device in a variety of colors. It also unveils the PRO edition, with more robust hardware and an attached camera. It also unveils unique features of the SMACH Z's controls - while it comes with a Steam Controller trackpad, you can clip a traditional D-Pad to replicate a traditional console setup.

Naturally, the SMACH Z is raising all kinds of funds, specifically €51,497 as of writing. The campaign hopes to raise €900,000 by Wed. Jan 13, 2016.

Source: Kickstarter

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Colour me interested, I hope this manages to raise the funds.

I doubt this thing can actually play many 3D games with compelling quality.
Seems like a pipedream. Long live the Kickstarter micro drone that sucked up millions and vanished! :\

It's a neat idea. I wish it had more RAM. But Steam is filled with games that would work really well on that device regardless. So if you already have a decent Steam library it would be nice to have something like this.

I haven't checked it out too much, but how's the cooling system going to work? Our smartphones don't have a cooling system and get very hot to the touch, even watching YouTube for extensive periods of time, which isn't really all that extensive.

I can't see it staying even touchable without some sort of cooling.

Adam Jensen:
It's a neat idea. I wish it had more RAM. But Steam is filled with games that would work really well on that device regardless. So if you already have a decent Steam library it would be nice to have something like this.

It seems they're offering a pro edition with 8GB of RAM for slightly more money.

One question I have is whether or not someone's gonna mod the ability to install Windows onto this thing. After all, on top of most PC games defaulting to Windows, doesn't SteamOS actually work worse than Windows? (or did they since fix that?).

hm, I'll have to wait until it comes out and it's hardware is tested by common games (battery life, fps, etc..) before I consider it, but otherwise seems pretty cool, doubles up nicely if you already have an extensive steam library, I'd love to have one of these on long trips or if I'm waiting for something for work.

DarklordKyo:
One question I have is whether or not someone's gonna mod the ability to install Windows onto this thing. After all, on top of most PC games defaulting to Windows, doesn't SteamOS actually work worse than Windows? (or did they since fix that?).

4 Million dollar stretch goal, babbyyyy!

On topic: they say on the kickstarter that it's "Powerful enough to play any game on the market: Portal 2, DOTA, Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, SOMA, Civilization V, Metro: Last Light Redux, Borderlands 2, The Witcher 2, ..." which is a statement I hope is more than just a boast, because it may let me postpone buying a new pc if it can play those games at a steady framerate on-the-go.

My question is less about technical specs and more about the controls. How the heck are you supposed to play Dota on that?

Looks gre- *no dual analogs, touchpads instead* Mmmmmmm I dunno.

After getting a Steam Machine last month I'm now more distracted by all the rumors that are Nintendo NX. Part of me still wants this. But I think it'll go the way of Tapwave Zodiac.

AzrealMaximillion:
Looks gre- *no dual analogs, touchpads instead* Mmmmmmm I dunno.

It says on the Kickstarter page that you can add on modular buttons (including buttons used to emulate console controllers for emulators), as well as a modular D-Pad, and a modular analog nub. Not exactly the same, but it helps.

Was this designed to hurt people's hands? I can't play the 3DS even.

Hmmm, yeah I need to see real world framerates, heat dissipation, and battery life before I drop any money on this. I'm not saying it isn't possible for a portable device to run those games at a decent, stable framerate with medium-high settings, but the proposed price tag seems a little low for what they claim it can do. Maybe mobile chips are farther than I think?

Sadly, I'm not finding a stretch goal to hire a marketing expert that can come up with a less shitty name. Something catchy is what they need here, not a confusing fanfic title.

I flat out don't believe it.
It just seems like another snake oil kickstarter, it's kind of sad that kickstarter pretty much let's any bullshit go through their system.
I'll just sit back and wait for the laughs when this ends up being total crap like the ouya.

DarklordKyo:
One question I have is whether or not someone's gonna mod the ability to install Windows onto this thing. After all, on top of most PC games defaulting to Windows, doesn't SteamOS actually work worse than Windows? (or did they since fix that?).

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to install Windows. It's a mini PC running Linux. The only reason why Windows may not be ideal is because the entire thing is designed to be used as a controller so you'd have a harder time navigating through Windows. But maybe that wouldn't be too much of a problem if you're only using it for games anyway.

Might be neat. I've got a few low resource games in my library that it would be fun to fiddle around with when bored and on a road trip or something.

DarklordKyo:

AzrealMaximillion:
Looks gre- *no dual analogs, touchpads instead* Mmmmmmm I dunno.

It says on the Kickstarter page that you can add on modular buttons (including buttons used to emulate console controllers for emulators), as well as a modular D-Pad, and a modular analog nub. Not exactly the same, but it helps.

yeah I saw that, I'll wait for some hands on reviews. Not a fan of the touchpad tech being uses at all before its accurate enough for games.

This thing will fail and fail hard.

1). It's a cut down version of a product that already has no market, i.e the Steam Machine
2). Due to it's size and obvious hardware limitations it will have an even more limited game market than the Steam machine already has.
3). It's targeting a market that has resulted in failure for every manufacturer that has released a console in to it. I.e the attempt to deliver direct ports of home games console games (in this case PC games) to the handheld market. The reason why the Gameboy and it's many iterations have succeeded is because the games were never direct ports (in most cases) they were games designed from the ground up to work on the handheld.

Also

Powerful enough to play any game on the market: Portal 2, DOTA, Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, SOMA, Civilization V, Metro: Last Light Redux, Borderlands 2, The Witcher 2

GTA5, wait a minute unpacked GTA5 comes out at 85Gb and the device only has 64Gb of internal memory, so NO not powerful enough to play ANY game on the market.

Yeah, I don't believe it's going to perform to promises. If it can, I'll consider buying one. But for now, I'll stick with my money.

Laughing Man:
This thing will fail and fail hard.

1). It's a cut down version of a product that already has no market, i.e the Steam Machine
2). Due to it's size and obvious hardware limitations it will have an even more limited game market than the Steam machine already has.
3). It's targeting a market that has resulted in failure for every manufacturer that has released a console in to it. I.e the attempt to deliver direct ports of home games console games (in this case PC games) to the handheld market. The reason why the Gameboy and it's many iterations have succeeded is because the games were never direct ports (in most cases) they were games designed from the ground up to work on the handheld.

Also

Powerful enough to play any game on the market: Portal 2, DOTA, Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, SOMA, Civilization V, Metro: Last Light Redux, Borderlands 2, The Witcher 2

GTA5, wait a minute unpacked GTA5 comes out at 85Gb and the device only has 64Gb of internal memory, so NO not powerful enough to play ANY game on the market.

1) Says you but the reality is that there is in fact a market for Steam Machines. You're just not it and solipsism leads you to believe that because you don't want it, nobody else does. Heck I have a high-end PC with a GTX 980 Ti and I can see even myself getting a Steam Machine at some point in the future. Certainly a better investment than a PS4 or Xbone...

2) If it can run Portal, Half-Life 2, and the other games mentioned in the list, that's good enough for me. The Steam Controller tech has proven to be good enough to handle these types of games. And most PC games can be configured to run on lower settings anyways, not to mention that most indie games have low requirements. That's a massive library right there.

3) Mind you I'm not saying this device won't still fail or flop. But there's a big difference between this and previous attempts. One huge difference is the interface, the use of steam controller tech specifically. This is a controller that was designed from the ground up to work with most PC games, which means porting is a non-issue. It doesn't matter AT ALL whether the games are designed with the handheld market in mind or not.
The second difference is that it uses Steam, which has a pre-existing library with many games. Other handheld consoles that tried to compete with the Gameboy didn't have this advantage--they had to start their library from scratch, thus the consoles had little content. SteamBoy on the other hand has all this: https://steamdb.info/linux/

Also on GTA 5 you're nitpicking over HDD space. Their Pro version has 8gb ram and 128gb HDD space.

Ehhh, to be honest, i like that steam is purely PC right now. I mean don't get me wrong, portability is nice, but i feel like if steam start's making consoles, they'll start putting more effort and resources into supporting that console than supporting PCs. I mean i love steam, but there's more work to be done in other areas before making a console.

9tailedflame:
Ehhh, to be honest, i like that steam is purely PC right now. I mean don't get me wrong, portability is nice, but i feel like if steam start's making consoles, they'll start putting more effort and resources into supporting that console than supporting PCs. I mean i love steam, but there's more work to be done in other areas before making a console.

Steam isn't making this, the group SMACH is. A steam machine is simply a machine that has steam on it.
And last I checked Valve/Steam doesn't really "support anything", Steam is simply a means of digital distribution, they really have no hand in "support" to any games on the platform outside of the ones they themselves produce.

1) Says you but the reality is that there is in fact a market for Steam Machines.

No their really really isn't. Their was a nugget of a market when this entire stupid idea popped up around 2 years ago. Since then the PC market has moved on MS has moved on with their delivery of Windows 10 and tech has moved on, you can now buy full fat Windows PCs that are as small as compact and about the same price and they will play your FULL Steam Library. The only feature of note in the Steam Machine, the Streaming service, can now be done better by dedicated devices that are smaller and cheaper and anyone who owns a Nivdia card can get a better streaming service using a Nvidia shield. The market has gone, Valve are late to the party and their Steam Machines are a dead concept that will sell purely on the Valve fanboy hype, however if ever the concept that if you throw enough shit at a wall you will find a nice chunk of tasty corn the Steam controller is proof of this. The controller is the only thing that will make Valve any real cash out of this entire pointless waste of time. Finally gamers have an alternative to the XBox controller for their PCs.

Nerds always tell me a gaming laptop is unrealistic, now there is advertising for a gaming handheld...

I don't get it.

So they are back around again with a new name, different looking machine, different specs,... unsurprisingly still no working model.
If you are giving money to hardware people who have not shown any hardware then you are a special kind of stupid, but it is your money so throw it into whatever pit suits you.

UsefulPlayer 1:
Nerds always tell me a gaming laptop is unrealistic, now there is advertising for a gaming handheld...

I don't get it.

I don't get what you don't get. Just because lots of people say something is unrealistic, that doesn't mean the company making this follows the same opinion. The industry isn't some sort of hivemind.

UsefulPlayer 1:
Nerds always tell me a gaming laptop is unrealistic, now there is advertising for a gaming handheld...

I don't get it.

I think the argument, that I've used several times myself, is that if you're going to spend all that money on a gaming laptop, to game on, it's far, far more efficient to simply get a desktop unless you really need something that the laptop can offer (portability and size) that the desktop can't because you generally can't replace your GPU in a laptop. A handheld though, while its main benefits are still size and portability, is a whole other beast because of just how big that difference is.

That said if I were to tell someone something is stupid regardless of how stupid it actually is, it 1) doesn't mean there isn't demand for it and 2) doesn't mean someone isn't willing to provide that item.

Trump is a wonderful example of that stupid thing I feel no one needs but apparently a lot of other people feel otherwise.

A few alteration need to be made to improve this before they re-launch.

Internal storage is far too small 120gb minimum with option for 250gb , SD is too slow for larger steam type games. Or have a mini PCI-e card slot for mini pci SSDs

the APU and GPU and combo is fine but needs to be higher end , it would essentially then be a more powerful xbox1 or ps4 thats portable. On a screen that small they could even drop it to 720p and it would be fine this would improve performance.

The machine is rather complete on paper but, for now, it is only a project. Develop and industrialize a complex project like this requires a little more competence than to make Android tablets in China. I wish them good luck all the same.

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