George Lucas Says He Sold Star Wars to "White Slavers" - Update

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George Lucas Says He Sold Star Wars to "White Slavers" - Update

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George Lucas discussed Star Wars with Charlie Rose, saying "I sold them to the 'white slavers.'"

Update: Lucas has issued a statement apologizing for referring to Disney as "white slavers."

Via The Wrap:

"I want to clarify my interview on the Charlie Rose Show. It was for the Kennedy Center Honors and conducted prior to the premiere of the film. I misspoke and used a very inappropriate analogy and for that I apologize.

I have been working with Disney for 40 years and chose them as the custodians of Star Wars because of my great respect for the company and Bob Iger's leadership. Disney is doing an incredible job of taking care of and expanding the franchise. I rarely go out with statements to clarify my feelings but I feel it is important to make it clear that I am thrilled that Disney has the franchise and is moving it in such exciting directions in film, television and the parks. Most of all I'm blown away with the record breaking blockbuster success of the new movie and am very proud of JJ and Kathy."

Original Story: In a recent interview with talk show host Charlie Rose, Star Wars creator George Lucas made a number of statements about his feelings on The Force Awakens, how he felt he was treated by the franchise's new owners at Disney, and at one point even compared the company to "white slavers."

When discussing his lack of involvement with the franchise now, Lucas said: "I'm just going to cause trouble, because they're not going to do what I want them to do. And I don't have the control to do that anymore, and all I would do is muck everything up. And so I said, 'OK, I will go my way, and I'll let them go their way.'" He then compared the situation to a breakup, saying that there are certain "rules" after a breakup: No phone calls, don't drive past their house or go to their coffee shop, because you're "opening the wound again."

Lucas says that the movies "are my kids. I loved them, I created them, I'm very intimately involved with them and I sold them to the white slavers that take these things, and..." Lucas laughed off the rest of the sentence, and Rose quickly jumped into a new question.

Lucas also did not like the "retro feel" of The Force Awakens, saying "I don't like that. Every movie, I worked very hard to make them different...different planets, different spaceships to make it new."

You can watch the full interview here.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens has broken a number of records since its December 18 release, including reaching one billion dollars in worldwide ticket sales after only 12 days in theaters. The film still has not been released in China, the second largest film market in the world.

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...Does anyone really give a fuck?

Yeah, you tried to do something new with every film, and it was awful. After the war crimes that were the prequel films, is it really a surprise that Disney told him to piss off?

Well he's not wrong. Force Awakens was a feature length theme-park ad.

TheRightToArmBears:
...Does anyone really give a fuck?

Yeah, you tried to do something new with every film, and it was awful. After the war crimes that were the prequel films, is it really a surprise that Disney told him to piss off?

So you're saying filmmakers shouldn't try new things or be innovative? And seriously, war crimes?

George created this world, it's his vision, he gave it to us, and now because he's made a few crummy movies, the entitled twats that are the SW fandom have told the guy who created this thing they love so much to stay away from the world he gave them.

Whoa, you sold your franchise for a billion bucks and now have no say in what is done with said franchise? My mind is blooooown.

I mean, yeah, I get that the movies were his babies, but it's a bit late to be crying about it now, isn't it? I've been reading a bit more into him lately, and given how difficult he is to work with, I'm not surprised Disney didn't want him on board. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm seriously starting to think that it's the people who were able to rein him in that were the real geniuses. (I know, I'm a slowpoke.)

IOwnTheSpire:

TheRightToArmBears:
...Does anyone really give a fuck?

Yeah, you tried to do something new with every film, and it was awful. After the war crimes that were the prequel films, is it really a surprise that Disney told him to piss off?

So you're saying filmmakers shouldn't try new things or be innovative? And seriously, war crimes?

George created this world, it's his vision, he gave it to us, and now because he's made a few crummy movies, the entitled twats that are the SW fandom have told the guy who created this thing they love so much to stay away from the world he gave them.

I think a filmmaker's primary focus should be making a good film, and innovation is important but ultimately secondary. And whilst yes, it's sad that he got his world ripped away from him, what on earth were you or him expecting Disney to do? This is the largest IP on the planet, they're not fucking around.

Also, are you really digging at me for a slightly tasteless bit of hyperbole when he just called Disney "slavers"?

TheRightToArmBears:

I think a filmmaker's primary focus should be making a good film, and innovation is important but ultimately secondary. And whilst yes, it's sad that he got his world ripped away from him, what on earth were you or him expecting Disney to do? This is the largest IP on the planet, they're not fucking around.

Also, are you really digging at me for a slightly tasteless bit of hyperbole when he just called Disney "slavers"?

Ripped away from him? Umm... no he SOLD it, there is a big difference he had a choice. He decided to abandon his 'kids' in exchange for some money. No sympathy from me for what Disney does with it's latest cash cow.

On the one hand, I wouldn't have minded what he's talking about, seeing more of something new than something rehashed.

On the other hand, the new movie isn't bad despite whatever complaints and does a well enough job of establishing a new foundation which hopefully will only get better.

But mostly, well... 'Different' doesn't guarantee 'good', and I'm thankful another trilogy wasn't chanced on his vision.

As much as I found Awakens to be a bland rehash of A New Hope, Lucas just comes across as a manipulative, cranky old man here who can't let go.

If he really does care about the franchise and the fans more than his own ego, he should just be happy that a whole new generation will get to enjoy it and that for better or worse, the legacy will live on.

He's also conveniently leaving out the part where the 'white slavers' paid him billions. If he thinks he still has the right to write scripts, advise or literally do anything related to star wars, when he accepted that much money, then he must truly be either crazy or incredibly narcissistic.

Maybe he's upset that Disney ruined the balance he brought to the Star Wars franchise: 3 "good" and 3 awful films.

And suddenly Jar-Jar makes a lot more sense.

My brother found an amazing comment online about this.

"So he sold his 'kids' for 4 billion dollars, and now he's whining about how they're being raised?"

The whole "white slavers" bit is just over the top crazy, though.

Mickey Mouse isn't a white slaver. He's a pimp. There is a very clear distinction between the two.

well i found the new movie to be good

Don't worry, George. You can just wipe those tears away with some of your millions of hundred dollar bills. So I'm pretty much saying, you sold it to them willingly for more money than I'll ever receive in my lifetime. They now get to decide how much they want you involved. I don't feel bad for you.

I kinda empathize with him. It's easy to dismiss him as the guy who made the terrible prequels and sold Star Wars for A LOT OF MONEY, but he's also the guy who created one of the most beloved franchises in the entire world. People don't seem to realize the full extent and consequences of that. There's this guy, this old man now who started it all decades ago and it's still relevant and loved by so many to this day. When you look at all those characters and things that Star Wars spawned you have to remember that he is the reason for most of that. And now he can no longer be a part of his own creation. There is something profoundly sad about that.

Dude shouldn't have sold it then. If I sell a car I don't get to tell the new owner where to drive it.

Granted, like many others I was more than happy to see someone slap his hands away from star wars after the prequels and blu-ray release of the classic trilogy. But to hear him being this petty about it...well, the smart thing would have been to just farm out the film rights with an explicit rider in the contract stating that he gets to ruin each movie.

I wonder if he's just jealous of how much better Disney is at marketing and merchandising. Either that or he's just mad that the new movie pretty much ignores the prequels in their entirety. Maybe he thinks he's owed a bit of the money that the mouse is making.

Hmm, I bet he's just jealous that not only is the mouse more successful with their movie than he was with the last 3, but also that people are so open about how happy they are he isn't involved anymore.

[b]Total Lifetime Gross[b]
The Phantom Menace - $1,027,044,677
Attack of the Clones - $649,398,328
Revenge of the Sith - $848,754,768

The Force Awakens (so far) - $1,265,049,526
George sold the franchise for $4 billion, half of which is in stock, which I suspect took quite a jump when the new film released. I feel no pity for him - he said himself that he was retiring from major motion pictures. Newer doesn't always mean better and I for one am glad we got a little old fashioned.
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erm.... yea.

I'd quite like to do an analysis of George Lucas to see at exactly what point he had a steel rod inserted into his brain. Boohoo I can't sell out whilst also retaining creative control! Where's that cake I ate yesterday!

There is a fair point to be made about The Force Awakens not feeling like it had much new stuff in it but that was mainly because it's the first of a trilogy which had to do damage control and re-establish Star Wars as something that's actually enjoyable to watch. If "Star Wars 8: The force hits the snooze button" doesn't add to the star wars universe or take it in a new and interesting direction then I'll be disappointed.

...and let's be honest George you put new stuff in every film so that you could profit from a new line of merchandise and action figures...

Just as a side note why use "white slavers" as opposed to any other kind of slavers. It's like calling someone a "French-person rapist"... it's the rapist bit that's insulting, the rest is just unnecessary extra detail.

Adam Jensen:
I kinda empathize with him. It's easy to dismiss him as the guy who made the terrible prequels and sold Star Wars for A LOT OF MONEY, but he's also the guy who created one of the most beloved franchises in the entire world. People don't seem to realize the full extent and consequences of that. There's this guy, this old man now who started it all decades ago and it's still relevant and loved by so many to this day. When you look at all those characters and things that Star Wars spawned you have to remember that he is the reason for most of that. And now he can no longer be a part of his own creation. There is something profoundly sad about that.

Isn't it more sad that he mucked with his creations so much that people started to actively dislike them and he doesn't get it?

Making a beloved franchise is more luck and timing than just writing something good. I read a little of Potter but not Percy Jackson, but what if Percy Jackson came out before Harry Potter would there be a Percy Jackson theme park being built instead of a Potter one?

It's more about reception than just being good. I think if Star Wars even came out in the 90's, it wouldn't have been as well received as it is now. It's a Zeitgeist thing. He was willingly mucking up people's nostalgia, and releasing dated humor and stilted concepts in timelines that weren't receptive to them. His tragedy is one of his own doing.

mysecondlife:
Maybe he's upset that Disney ruined the balance he brought to the Star Wars franchise: 3 "good" and 3 awful films.

only reason those original 3 films were good is because his wife marcia lucas kept the stupid ideas in check otherwise they would of just been like the prequels. shes the real reason the movies are remembered for being good.

although even she couldnt stop him from cynically putting in ewoks purely for the merchandising opportunities... actually hes complaining about disney when he changed return purely to increase toy sales.. hypocrite

Lucas said: "I'm just going to cause trouble, because they're not going to do what I want them to do.

So, they wouldn't make 98% of the film entirely infront of a greenscreen? Yeah...what jerks.

I actually have to agree with his general disappointment. Sure the prequels where bad movies, but they where memorably bad movies that will be remembered just as vividly as the originals where. Meanwhile Force Awakens isn't only a movie that was middle of the road and quite forgettable, it may end up having the same "good at release, bad after a while" retroactive mentality we gave to Phantom Menace.

Adam Jensen:
I kinda empathize with him. It's easy to dismiss him as the guy who made the terrible prequels and sold Star Wars for A LOT OF MONEY, but he's also the guy who created one of the most beloved franchises in the entire world. People don't seem to realize the full extent and consequences of that. There's this guy, this old man now who started it all decades ago and it's still relevant and loved by so many to this day. When you look at all those characters and things that Star Wars spawned you have to remember that he is the reason for most of that. And now he can no longer be a part of his own creation. There is something profoundly sad about that.

But it wasn't his lone vision that made the original trilogy so great, it was the combined work, skills, and vision of many different people which made them so great.
That said I agree with you, while it's profoundly sad it's a tragedy he played no small part in creating, but honestly I just hope he moves on and works on something else that he enjoys, I'd watch it for sure.

I will always admire George Lucas for bringing us Star Wars, but he should accept the fact that the new movies he made sucked. And not only that, he insulted fans by making them ridiculous (Jar Jar), breaking with the old, beloved lore (Midi-Chlorians) and providing stupid and implausible plot elements (desert slave kid builds 3PO and flies a starfighter). And it was hard to shake the feeling that the movies were just the setup for an inevitable wave of toys and video games to follow.

It's not unusual for a creative mind to have it's great, shining moment, but eventually burn out. George should just face it that he simply doesn't have the vision anymore. And that yes, he fucked up. You don't take the Mona Lisa out of the museum to add eyeliner and red lipstick, even if you think she's more sexy like that.

It's in everyone's best interest that Star Wars is out of his hands. George will no longer be able to piss people off and make a fool of himself.

NiPah:

Adam Jensen:
I kinda empathize with him. It's easy to dismiss him as the guy who made the terrible prequels and sold Star Wars for A LOT OF MONEY, but he's also the guy who created one of the most beloved franchises in the entire world. People don't seem to realize the full extent and consequences of that. There's this guy, this old man now who started it all decades ago and it's still relevant and loved by so many to this day. When you look at all those characters and things that Star Wars spawned you have to remember that he is the reason for most of that. And now he can no longer be a part of his own creation. There is something profoundly sad about that.

But it wasn't his lone vision that made the original trilogy so great, it was the combined work, skills, and vision of many different people which made them so great.
That said I agree with you, while it's profoundly sad it's a tragedy he played no small part in creating, but honestly I just hope he moves on and works on something else that he enjoys, I'd watch it for sure.

Exactly what I was going to say. Lucas may have been the original spark but the original Star Wars was a village, built by the collaborate effort of many people. Who, coincidentally, he kicked to the curb after the original trilogy run and hoarded the creative rights and directions all to himself. We saw what we get when it's all George when the Phantom Menace came out. Not to mention all the constant re-editing of the original trilogy that the almost universally fans hated.

I mean I don't mean to hate the guy here but yeah, I'm playing the worlds smallest violin for him right now. Sorry George but that this point you're the abusive father, Star Wars is far better off for everyone with Mickey the pimp.

Zontar:
I actually have to agree with his general disappointment. Sure the prequels where bad movies, but they where memorably bad movies that will be remembered just as vividly as the originals where. Meanwhile Force Awakens isn't only a movie that was middle of the road and quite forgettable, it may end up having the same "good at release, bad after a while" retroactive mentality we gave to Phantom Menace.

The Phantom Menace was only viewed bad after the release of ep2, it was then when people started to really criticize the prequels. They may of done it before, but not nearly as much (apart from moaning about Jar Jar)

It will be the same with the release of Ep8. if ep8 doesn't build on what TFA started it WILL fall flat.

DAMMIT! I had this whole thing typed out, but because of this stupid video add in the bottom corner, I couldn't hit the captcha button and now it's all gone!

Short version: If you dislike Disney this much, Mr. Lucas, why did you sell to them? Everyone knows they have some mean business practices.
You said Darth Maul and Darth Talon are friends, despite them living over a century apart. That, and the complaints you have about the new movie, only reinforce my belief that was time for you to step aside.
I do agree about new ships though. I want to see new ships in the next movie, or at least the return of classic ones.

Adam Jensen:
I kinda empathize with him. It's easy to dismiss him as the guy who made the terrible prequels and sold Star Wars for A LOT OF MONEY, but he's also the guy who created one of the most beloved franchises in the entire world. People don't seem to realize the full extent and consequences of that. There's this guy, this old man now who started it all decades ago and it's still relevant and loved by so many to this day. When you look at all those characters and things that Star Wars spawned you have to remember that he is the reason for most of that. And now he can no longer be a part of his own creation. There is something profoundly sad about that.

Except it wasn't just him. When he was making the original trilogy, people had the balls to tell him "no". When he was making, by your own admission, the awful prequels, he had way more control over things. I mean for fucks sake he's gone on record saying Jar Jar, I'd arguably say one of the most hated characters in all of fictional movies, is his favorite character.

If you want to get even more into it, he left because people criticized him experimenting while in fact a lot of the criticism was simply leveled at things people didn't like, such as cheesy romance scenes taking up huge chunks of the movie run time, a character who's main attribute is fucking up, decentralized plots, too many politics and I could go on.

These are things that would be largely disliked if done in other movies as well. Consequently The Clone Wars experimented quite a bit and for the most part is widely liked.

So I can't say I feel much sympathy for Lucas in this case when he went into the creative industry and can't accept criticism.

Wow Georgie. I'm not to hip to the current kid's lingo, but I think you're "super salty".

"Waah Waah I loved these things so much and I worked oh so very hard on them. I also sold them" He says" But Disney are the bad guys, I mean, I sold them sure, but they BOUGHT them!"

Why stop at just white slavers, George? If you're going with incredibly pathetic insults, why not go whole horse? I would have at least went with "White Privileged Neo-Nazi Cishetero slaving rape apologist rebuplican gamergating jewish bro patriarch furries from the black lagoon"

Pissed off about no control, he had total control over the prequels and look at the shitwich they became. At least Force Awakens felt like the original movies, even with the fan service.

Man, what does he want? He bitches about popular films, which he hates, but then he bitches about art house films, because they don't reach enough people. He talks about how he can't escape Star Wars, and then he talks about how it was taken away from him. He talks about how he wanted to make art house films for himself, but he's made one art house movie ever, and that's THX 1138, his first film. No one stopped Steven Spielberg from making both artistic and pop films, and no one stopped Francis Ford Coppola. He acts like Star Wars was an albatross around his neck, but in reality it gave him the freedom to make any film he wanted. And what did he make? Indiana Jones, Howard the Duck, the Prequel trilogy... all pulpy sci-fi films based on comic books and adventure serials. Some were good, and some were bad, but all of them were the product of Lucas's mind. He's been talking for decades about the stack of art films he wants to make, the real movies he wants to make, but he's never even tried to make any of them. I think he's scared to make his "serious" films because he knows, if he tries his best and fails, that people will realize he's full of shit. It's easier to write off Star Wars and Indiana Jones as fun movies where he wasn't really trying. Lucas is so full of contradictions that nothing makes sense any more. He's a failure in everything but finance, and now he's bitter.

Well, fuck 'em.

same thing I said the first time I saw this news, copypasted:

Georgie boy, listen. you are a talentless hack who got lucky by stealing a story and setting it in a decent universe. then you spent the next 20 years doing everything you could to ruin it. Darth Icky? seriously? i've read about your intrusion into the attempts at creating all forms of star wars media, and you are the worst thing about star wars. JJ Abrahms has created a quality movie, something you haven't managed to do in 30 years. shut the hell up, hack.

$4 Billion dollars and out of all the flavors on planet Earth you could have used that money to buy, you chose salty.

Wait, he sold the rights to Star Wars and yet STILL expected to have some creative control?

What?

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