A Major Marvel Hero Will Die In Civil War II

A Major Marvel Hero Will Die In Civil War II

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Civil War II will kill a major Marvel hero in a Minority Report-styled scenario.

It's just a few more months before Marvel fans can watch superheroes beat each other senseless in Captain America: Civil War. But comic book readers won't be left out - Marvel Comics will soon roll out Civil War II, a sequel to the original 2006 event. What will pit one-time friends against each other this time? As it turns out, something fairly personal: The death of a major Marvel character.

The original Civil War event was based around the Superhuman Registration Act, which forced all heroes to either reveal their secret identities or be arrested for illegal vigilantism. Civil War II is taking a different approach, one that veers into Minority Report territory. It begins when a powerful precog character emerges who can predict the future with a startling degree of accuracy. This information ultimately divides Marvel's heroes: Captain Marvel wants to profile potential criminals in advance, while Iron Man fears this will lead to people being persecuted for actions they never committed.

So where does this "major Marvel character" come in? Apparently this new seer predicts that a hero will be responsible for a devastating act of destruction three days in the future. While the actual character and their motives aren't yet known, it will force Marvel's heroes to make a hard choice - presumably with lethal results.

Sure, Civil War II is an easy way to get Captain America: Civil War viewers looking at comics while marketing Captain Marvel at the same time. And resurrecting the Civil War name does feel strange with the Secret Wars tie-in occurring so recently. But all the same, the premise is a great way to put superhero characters on the defensive incredibly quickly. If writer Brian Michael Bendis and artist David Marquez can take the concept in a unique direction, this should make for a very interesting read.

Source: NY Daily News, via Newsarama

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This is horrifying for so many reasons, first comicbooks stop with that "this character is going to die" we know it's not going to be permanent. secondly stop pretending Civil War was a good comic. Three, Even though I'm nicer to Bendis then most people (Miles Morales Spiderman series was one of the first comics I read when I started interest in comics) he cannot do these big crossover events, a better choice than Mark Miller but just stop giving him crossover event comics. fourth didn't we just get done secret wars? Five, when are heroes going to be fighting villains again?

sorry double post

Marvel is truly and utterly devoid of original ideas at this point. I'm glad I stopped reading their books long ago. Civil War I was terrible and everything I learned about Civil War II is making me cringe.

Uh Hold up a second, now I'm not into comics, I never read them, but I did read into Civil War, and after reading article post, I find it freaking hilarious

Besides they'll bring them back later on anyway.

I really liked Civil War and it was actually the arch that got me back into comics. That being said, every event they've done since then has been frustrating in one way or another. The emotional impact of what happened in Civil War all came from characters who we had all known for years now forced to confront each other in ways that had stakes and emotions tied to them.

I haven't read Captain Marvel since She was Ms. Marvel, and the other new characters I'm not nearly as emotionally invested in as I was with Steve Rodgers, Peter Parker and a lot of the other characters involved. They've tried to face lift the comic universe so much that it's too soon. I mean Sam Wilson is a fine Cap, but we know nothing is going to happen to him. They could Kill of Tony, but what's the point? The characters are all still too new to get rid of anyone significant.

But more importantly, Marvel really needs to let the comic book universe breath a little. So many freaking reboots and re-casts and "earth shattering events" that being out for a few issues has completely erased any investment I had with everyone. Even when I start to get re-invested with the characters, they seem to reboot things again...

tl;dr I'm not a fan of this move. Civil War was cool but it was cool because I was invested in the characters. I don't even know these characters so I could care less what happens to most of them. Work on making the separate books good again and maybe finish an arch or two before jamming another event book down our throats...

I'm making my false prediction now. Sam Wilson will kill Wade Wilson for being a Cracker who's ancestors owned his ancestors. Marvel is doing this in hopes that it'll take away interest in people seeing Fox's Deadpool movie.

For some reason, I have a bad feeling about this. It kinda feels like Marvel is rehashing old ideas (though hopefully with better results. That's what you get when you don't plan out the damn story...)

And if a major character does die, you just know they'll come back later. Oh come on, everyone knows it!

Still, it's kinda interesting to see Iron Man on the opposite side of the Registration fence this time around. Hopefully this won't go uncommented on. Preferably by Deadpool.

The only reason whoever it is will stay dead is because some other studio is doing movies of them, and they want to stop that...

(so that is 'stay dead' as long as they can't be in the MCU)

RatGouf:
I'm making my false prediction now. Sam Wilson will kill Wade Wilson for being a Cracker who's ancestors owned his ancestors. Marvel is doing this in hopes that it'll take away interest in people seeing Fox's Deadpool movie.

That's...sadly, probably going to be better than the book.

WolvDragon:
Uh Hold up a second, now I'm not into comics, I never read them, but I did read into Civil War, and after reading article post, I find it freaking hilarious

Besides they'll bring them back later on anyway.

Not sure its really hypocritical....in round 1 he was advocating registering weapons at the cost of personal privacy. Round two he's against punishing people for actions they havent actually done. Its only hypocritical if you treat it as 'He agreed with the government once so he has to agree with the government every time!' Which completely robs the civil war arcs of their motivator: Individuals backing their morals, even when it means hard choices and fighting friends.

Geeze guys. Spoiler much?

Remember when plots like this used to be a thrilling/shocking experience instead of the pre-advertised guessing game they've become?

Oh crap, I've turned into an old man.

And absolutely no one will be surprised when this turns into another "self fulfilling prophecy" story.

Why do comic book characters even care anymore? Death is just this sort of weird amorphous concept that doesn't carry any weight. Haven't all the characters died like eight times already?

DBZ was plenty stupid, but I like the way it treated death.
Character 1: Yamcha's dead!
Character 2: Whatever, we'll get the Dragon Balls I guess.

In the realm of Unimportant and Inconsequential, the Death of a Superhero is King.

Isn't that cute? The comics industry wants us to believe that death still matters.

I think Iron Man will die. It'll keep Robert Downy Jr. out of the movies so they can pay him less. The Iron-man can still run around as controlled by AI programming so they won't really be losing an iconic super hero. Just his alias. War Machine may get a repaint to take over the role. His resurrection will come in the form of a Tony Stark AI and eventually be given a 'practically like real' robot body.

If they're going to do a Civil War 2, they should have one of all villains to see who gets to rule Earth. Doomsday vs Mageneto.

Brian Michael Bendis, bringing back stories from 2007... but why?

Listen, I liked Civil War, probably more than some other people around here. It had all the feels, excellent writing, the tie ins were for the most part written really well... but please stop rehashing stories Marvel. Your writing is going down the shitter, the last thing we need is the whole remake thing happening with every one of your comics. If you are going to price people out of reading your comics, at least try to have some good and original stories for your audience.

Who's it gonna be? Man-ape? Asbestos lady? Fatman the Human Flying Saucer?(I know he's not marvel but I had to bring him up)

If they actually had the balls to kill off somebody popular and keep them dead I'd respect them, heck if they had the balls to kill off somebody who's unpopular and keep them dead I'd probably have just as much respect for them(James Todd a character they actually killed off by popular demand). But is anybody seriously going to fall for this now?

Wow, it takes some serious guys to temporarily kill off some important character before bringing him back to life a little later. /sarcasm

Seriously, why is this even news worthy?

Blugh.

Marvel, I don't know if you know this, but I don't want to see heroes fight heroes. I want to see heroes apprehend villains. Stop it! Have them team up to fight...I don't know, the Dire Wraiths or something. Let heroes be heroes!

Odbarc:
I think Iron Man will die. It'll keep Robert Downy Jr. out of the movies so they can pay him less. The Iron-man can still run around as controlled by AI programming so they won't really be losing an iconic super hero. Just his alias. War Machine may get a repaint to take over the role. His resurrection will come in the form of a Tony Stark AI and eventually be given a 'practically like real' robot body.

I do agree that Iron man is on the chopping block but not for the same reason. Consider all the A-list heroes in Marvel today. With the sole exception of Iron Man, they've either been modified, replaced, or just plain put on a bus as sacrifices to the "diversity" altar. All but Iron Man is protected from being killed so Marvel won't be accused of sexism, racism, etc. The only other possibility is Thor (the original one, not Jane Foster) being killed off so the team at Marvel won't have to fish for excuses why they won't bring him back when the cancer that Foster has is supposed to kill her off (which should have happened already considering it was supposed to be drastically accelerated and she was already at death's door to begin with.)

Elijin:

WolvDragon:
Uh Hold up a second, now I'm not into comics, I never read them, but I did read into Civil War, and after reading article post, I find it freaking hilarious

Besides they'll bring them back later on anyway.

Not sure its really hypocritical....in round 1 he was advocating registering weapons at the cost of personal privacy. Round two he's against punishing people for actions they havent actually done. Its only hypocritical if you treat it as 'He agreed with the government once so he has to agree with the government every time!' Which completely robs the civil war arcs of their motivator: Individuals backing their morals, even when it means hard choices and fighting friends.

There's also the fact that Tony DIDN'T advocate it. He even staged an assassination attempt on himself at the congressional hearing for it to try to prevent it from passing (as well at get Spiderman on his side). But Tony was looking for legal means to shut down the law instead of saying "screw you" like the antis did. Then the trenches were formed, congress got stupid by using villains and all hell broke loose.

Seriously??? They bring back that garbage again and I'm suprised I kinda forgot about it I think? I mean I did know they were reusing the titles for present comic arcs like the Battleworld thing but one of them was Civil War?

Also what was the cause of this second Civil War this time round. Some minor villain blew himself up? Beside for some of the smart characters, I thought they know well enough to not repeat it given to how much crap made against them.

I don't get the impression just from this story that the death in question is supposed to be anything more then a contributing catalyst for this one particular series, and you know what? That's fine, that's good even.

We all know everything goes back to zero at some point or another but that doesn't mean you can't still use death as a way to motivate others or explore ideas. Basically it goes like this, what makes Death and Return of Superman dumb was when they pretended like he wasn't going to come back because of course he was. What makes it potentially interesting however is the idea of forcing people to face a world without Superman, to explore the idea that maybe the invulnerable man isn't, to ask if maybe putting so much hope in one person who might not be able to be there all the time isn't such a good idea? That's good stuff, and you can do all that in the context of /one story/, and then fuck off to whatever the next /one story/ is.

I like the pitch here. Even if the execution was muddled in the first War, the idea that there isn't just One and Only One way to save the world is still just as fascinating as it was all the way back when Rorschach first started being a dick to people. I like the Minority Report argument as an exercise, and honestly I'm surprised it's taken them this long to get there. I like the rebalanced teams, it offers up some interesting complexity in the idea that, yes, Stark can be pro-registration and against arresting people for things that haven't happened yet. Those aren't mutually exclusive. I like that it gives Danvers a chance to step into the spotlight a bit more and explore her morality on the same playing field.

I like these kind of stories because, at least as an idea, they feel more honest somehow. These are the kind of debates that would occur between these people and these are the kind of issues a world like this would face. Ignoring those possibilities just so "Hero fights Villain and saves the day" again feels a bit disengenous, and I like "Hero fights Villain and saves the day"!

Marvel is killing a major character, you say?

*starts setting Back-from-the-dead Stopwatch*

This crap right here, this is why I read Image

Sure, just like Thor, and Captain America, and Iron Man. Only Bucky stays dead.

Oh, wait, even THAT'S not true anymore.

Y'know, I really liked that scene early in Morrisson's JLA where they're burying Metamorpho, and almost no one shows up because they figure he'll be coming back soon anyway.

McMarbles:
Sure, just like Thor, and Captain America, and Iron Man. Only Bucky stays dead.

Oh, wait, even THAT'S not true anymore.

Shit, even uncle Ben has had scenes from the afterlife and made appearances as a spirit, so even if they stay dead they still get used to push story lines along. Even Bucky was just a sidekick, basically, if they kill anyone of the head liners, expect them to stay dead for a year or less. If they kill a C or D-lister they might stay dead for a few years. The only exception is if it's a title instead of a single hero like with the green lanterns, then they might keep a big name dead for more than a couple years, they'll still likely be back in time for the next big event though.

I mean, I get it, there's still suspense in reading how they die and where they take the story lines, but you would think the superheroes themselves would realize that death is basically a revolving door for them, why would they take a prediction like this seriously when marvel heroes should realize that there's about 6000 ways to bring someone back from the dead in their universe.

Only 1? It's a big event comic, half the main cast should be killed off if you want to do it properly. That way you can do another big event comic to bring them back. Duh, do you even Comic Book Marvel?

Just look at DC, they've not only killed their entire cast before, they've killed they're entire cast and universes of that cast multiple times in the same comic.

Odbarc:
I think Iron Man will die. It'll keep Robert Downy Jr. out of the movies so they can pay him less. The Iron-man can still run around as controlled by AI programming so they won't really be losing an iconic super hero. Just his alias. War Machine may get a repaint to take over the role. His resurrection will come in the form of a Tony Stark AI and eventually be given a 'practically like real' robot body.

If they're going to do a Civil War 2, they should have one of all villains to see who gets to rule Earth. Doomsday vs Mageneto.

The Great JT:
Blugh.

Marvel, I don't know if you know this, but I don't want to see heroes fight heroes. I want to see heroes apprehend villains. Stop it! Have them team up to fight...I don't know, the Dire Wraiths or something. Let heroes be heroes!

I would happily give Marvel (even more of)my money to see villains fight each other about who will rule/destroy the world. It still boggles my mind how the Red Skull got a bunch of villains to work for him in that AXIS event. All those enormous egos in one place is a powder keg; I thought we learned that lesson from Norman Osborne and his Cabal.

Civil War 2? Secret Wars? Again? Wow! They can't even show any originality in what they name this drek anymore, nevermind the retread marketing fluff that they try and pass off as stories.

 

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