Avengers: Infinity War May Feature 67 Main Characters

Avengers: Infinity War May Feature 67 Main Characters

Avengers Guardians Assemble!

According to comments from Joe and Anthony Russo, Avengers: Infinity War might be a bigger crossover film than we thought.

Avengers: Infinity War will be a big freaking deal once it hits theaters, the culmination of over a decade of Marvel superhero films. But how big can any two-part feature get, even one where the Guardians of the Galaxy may have cameo roles? According to Joe and Anthony Russo, absolutely enormous. The Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Infinity War directors revealed they're looking at 67 different characters for the latter story alone, presumably bringing together heroes new and old.

The information slipped out during Wizard World New Orleans, after Anthony accidentally referred to Hayley Atwell's Agent Carter as Sharon. "We have so many characters we're dealing with," Joe said, explaining the error. "We're breaking ground on Avengers: Infinity War. We have a board with 67 characters on it. You'll have to forgive him."

Now while the comment might just refer to characters being considered - or simply a throwaway joke - it certainly suggests that Infinity War will be a hero-packed adventure. Between the Marvel Cinematic Universe's heroes, villains, secondary characters, personalities from TV shows, there's a lot of room to make Infinity War an utterly massive finale. It's also likely that Infinity War will introduce a few Phase 4 heroes, since Marvel still has no plans of stopping here.

It's also worth noting that even if Infinity War features 67 characters, that doesn't mean they'll all get the same amount of screen time. It could easily focus on the Avengers' hunt for the Infinity Stones, while other characters make brief appearances to highlight a larger conflict with Thanos. But whatever happens, Marvel Infinity War will likely be a crossover that puts even major comic book events to shame. Who do you expect will appear in the finished films?

Source: Comic Book Movie, via Polygon

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I don't see that working. At all.

All this means is that some characters are not going to get the screen time they deserve. And if they try to give all the main characters the screen time they deserve, the movie(s) will suffer for it.

Look, Age of Ultron didn't manage to give all characters the screen time they needed (Thor was the one who suffered the most here), and that's despite a long runtime, a main cast Much smaller than 67, and being handled by Joss freakin Whedon. Learn your limitations, marvel.

Unless they split it into six different films, this is gonna kill everyone.
Literally everyone.
The crew will go insane and sneak into every theater and murder your daughter.

The MCU universe's progression, now in an analogy by pictures!

First Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy:

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Avengers: Age of Ultron:

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Avengers: Infinity War:

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Please Marvel, for the love of God, stop it! You don't have to fully copy the insanity that comes with superhero comics! It's too much we tell you, too much!

I mean, seriously now, Marvel is going to buckle under its own feature bloat. Age of Ultron already felt bloated. Even if only 17 of those are main characters, and that's still a bunch, that leaves 50 superheroes/villains that would be support characters or cameos. Assuming it won't be more than 2.5 hours that accounts to an average cameo count of one for every 3 minutes of movie. That's insane.

It's a worry that started with Avengers Age Of Ultron, character creep. Each new movie having more and more characters in it, often just for the purpose of fan service. Ant Man being the first movie of Phase 3 started light by only having one addition, Caps next outing looks like it's going to have a number of characters in it, as does Thor's next outing, no doubt the next Guardians outing will intro a few new characters so the fact that Infinity War is no doubt going to smash the Guardians world in to the Avengers World doesn't shock that their is going to be a lot of characters in it... but 67?

Even if you gave fan service to all the currently established characters and the bad guys and the non supers (agents of shield, agent carter, dare devil, etc) I still can't see it coming out at 67.

If they pull it off, then my god it is gonna be good but it could also be a huge cluster fuck.

Are they including Villains? Because I'm capping out around 50 for Hero Main Characters.

Sooo... how many BvS is that?

I am sure they will be small cameos showing all the random TV people and smaller heroes (maybe even some villains?) dealing with the horrible events happening across the universe as Thanos is smashing shit up with the infinity stones. Or It will be like the final seen in Pitch Perfect 2 (stay with me here) they brought in all of the former Bellas and just had them in the background singing, for this you would just do a sweeping shot showing everyone off as they all rush Thanos. I dont think any movie company is dumb enough to try and focus on 60+ characters in one film.

Devin Barker:
I am sure they will be small cameos showing all the random TV people and smaller heroes (maybe even some villains?) dealing with the horrible events happening across the universe as Thanos is smashing shit up with the infinity stones. Or It will be like the final seen in Pitch Perfect 2 (stay with me here) they brought in all of the former Bellas and just had them in the background singing, for this you would just do a sweeping shot showing everyone off as they all rush Thanos. I dont think any movie company is dumb enough to try and focus on 60+ characters in one film.

I was really hoping you were going for the entire Marvel Cinematic cast defeating Thanos through song.
You let me down.
Anyway.
I can't even be excited for that number.
I'm normally a relatively passive Marvel fan anyway so call me salty but I don't know man.
That's a lot of characters to either pay attention to or not.

Either all 67 will appear towards the end and have probably the best showdown in movie history.

Or 67 characters will appear across the 2 films, and not all in one.

Including cameo's, deaths and whatever else.

So yeh nothing to see here, move along

Whoa whoa whoa.
It's 67 characters, not 67 MAIN characters.

RJ Dalton:
I don't see that working. At all.

Then you've never read comics.

this is is basically the culmination of marvel's stable of characters.

that kind of movie is one that needs no background stories or introductions, it's just action a great romp with the full cast but everyone matters to some degree.

Movies have plenty of actors and background figures, now you'll just know them all from somewhere.

If we're talking something alone the lines of, say, the 90s X-Men cartoon Days of Future Past opening, where it's open war and it just keeps jumping from mutant to mutant fighting, then I am totally okay with that. I want to see something like that in live action--just a whole bunch of super heroes going nuts, fighting in a war like that across the planet. Thor and Hulk in one country, then suddenly cutting to Black Panther, Captain America, and Bucky in Africa, and then Falcon, War Machine, and Iron Man in the skies? That would be sweet.

However, if they are going to try and squeeze in that many characters, and give a great deal of them screen time beyond action scenes, then...that's probably not going to work.

It's getting really bloated and they need to clear a few characters out if they're going to keep adding new ones. Watch any of the expendables movies if you want to see what having too many main characters looks like. I feel like this is the point where it begins to crack and it's sort of make or break whether they'll pull it together or if it will fall apart.

Age of Ultron wasn't an awful movie but it was the first MCU movie that expected a strong familiarity with the material and I feel like that alienated people and messed with the structure a bit. The avengers tie-in scene in ant man would have felt REALLY out of place if you went into it blind. We'll see if marvel movies manage to stay mainstream or if they'll start to fade into a more niche place or turn into a fucking mess. Could go a few ways at this point.

Simple. Everyone shows up to fight Thanos at the end. Or show an ongoing battle. As long as it doesn't try and actually split time, this can work.

Guitarmasterx7:
It's getting really bloated and they need to clear a few characters out if they're going to keep adding new ones. Watch any of the expendables movies if you want to see what having too many main characters looks like. I feel like this is the point where it begins to crack and it's sort of make or break whether they'll pull it together or if it will fall apart.

Age of Ultron wasn't an awful movie but it was the first MCU movie that expected a strong familiarity with the material and I feel like that alienated people and messed with the structure a bit. The avengers tie-in scene in ant man would have felt REALLY out of place if you went into it blind. We'll see if marvel movies manage to stay mainstream or if they'll start to fade into a more niche place or turn into a fucking mess. Could go a few ways at this point.

Honestly, though, you don't need to get rid of old characters, just don't use every character in every movie. Infinity Wars should be big. Hopefully, they dial it back afterwards. The continuity thing is admittedly more of a problem now that they're out of the building phase.

Fuck it. Let's just turn this into a WWE WrestleMania PPV. Make it 5 hours, include the old, new and special guest.

Seriously Marvel. Too much of something isn't a good thing.

I'm going to assume all this means is that they're going to have 67 costumes worn by minor characters or even extras during the movie with the majority of them having no lines or single lines.

I'm also going to assume this includes villains and red shirts they want to use to give the story gravitas.

Rrrrright.. and from that pool of 67 chars.... ironman and captain america are going to be featured the most amirite?

Cause those are the characters that are the most mainstay of all of them... as if anyone is really interested in the new falcon or the iron patriot or the rest of the B list team...

Its gonna be like the transformers movie... lots of robots but the only one that matter are bumblebee and optimus... the rest are just forgettable and throwaway as they come.

Shouldnt the title just be: Phase 3 will bringt the total Number of Characters up to 67?

Having a board in your movie planing room, that keeps up to date with all your characters from your other movies seems like a pretty logical thing. Just so that you dont fuck up your continuity.

Just like GRR Martin said he had a giant book of knowledge sitting around on his desk somewhere, which tracks the gender and eye color of all his horses and so on, so if some character mentions the horse somewhere, he can look up which gender to use.
That tells us literally nothing about the amount of horses in the next novel.

I'm thinking they have just a potential 67 characters, not that they'll use them all. Or that many heroes/villains will be shown participating, but not get much for screen time.

I really hope they don't go overboard. AoU was already far too bloated.

Extra-Ordinary:

Devin Barker:
I am sure they will be small cameos showing all the random TV people and smaller heroes (maybe even some villains?) dealing with the horrible events happening across the universe as Thanos is smashing shit up with the infinity stones. Or It will be like the final seen in Pitch Perfect 2 (stay with me here) they brought in all of the former Bellas and just had them in the background singing, for this you would just do a sweeping shot showing everyone off as they all rush Thanos. I dont think any movie company is dumb enough to try and focus on 60+ characters in one film.

I was really hoping you were going for the entire Marvel Cinematic cast defeating Thanos through song.
You let me down.
Anyway.
I can't even be excited for that number.
I'm normally a relatively passive Marvel fan anyway so call me salty but I don't know man.
That's a lot of characters to either pay attention to or not.

Well from the look of it BvS is going to kill Doomsday with the power of friendship so Marvel may as well jump on board and kill Thanos with kindness. This will be 60 heroes going out of their way to do random acts of kindness for Thanos until he decides not to be a jerk and go all omicidal on the universe.

Jokes aside, I think there is a graceful way to pull it off and barley have you notice it was 60 ppl. they will be little flashes of them doing a single heroic act then moving on to the main cast doing a big fight with Thanos...or they will pull a card from DC and have all the heroes turn into one giant super-dude being to kill Thanos... (I forgot what the run was but Superman combined with other supermen from the multiverse to kill a space vampire... Final Crisis?)

I don't think I'm reading this the same way as everyone else. It doesn't say 67 main character, just a board with 67 character on it - not necessarily all heroes either, and that really isn't that big a number.

Lets look at Age of Ultron, we had:

Avengers: Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Vision, War Machine and Falcon. Thats already 11.

Allies: Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Erik Selvig, Helen Cho, Laura Barton, Kid Barton x 2 (can't recall their names), Peggy Carter (Hallucination), Heimdall (Hallucination). Another 9.

Antagonists: Ultron, Strucker, Dr List, Klaue, Thanos. Another 5.

That's 25 off of the top of my head, and that's before you consider the characters who would have been on the board at the planning stage and didn't make the cut or needed to be explained out (Loki's deleted scene, explaining away where Pepper and Jane were etc.).

Realistically AoU will have had 30+ characters on that same board, Civil War probably more than that, and Infinity War will be 2 films, so 67 isn't that big of a stretch.

Moreover, I would bet that either Phil Coulson and the AoS crew, or the Defenders (maybe both groups) will get a couple of scenes of them fighting on a ground level to tie it all in, probably no more screen time that War Machine got in AoU but that'l strike half a dozen numbers down off the bat.

I like how there is so much preemptive negativity.
Why can't you people just wait and see?
If they manage to bring the 18 films toghether and the two Infinity-War films end up half decent, you should applaude them
Noone ever managed that.

Politrukk:

RJ Dalton:
I don't see that working. At all.

Then you've never read comics.

this is is basically the culmination of marvel's stable of characters.

that kind of movie is one that needs no background stories or introductions, it's just action a great romp with the full cast but everyone matters to some degree.

Movies have plenty of actors and background figures, now you'll just know them all from somewhere.

Fair point, but I still think 67 name-able characters still sounds a bit excessive from a budgeting point-of-view. I'd like to think that at that point there would be no introductions or background stories or anything, just a big old final showdown with everyone giving their all, but that's a lot of action to produce. Think of all the special effects. We'll need Ant-man to do something infiltration-y using his power, and Hawkeye to nail some baddies through the skulls, and the Guardians crew to shoot down some mobs, etc etc. If they're all given the attention they deserve, then it's gonna be costly.

Don't get me wrong; if they pull it off then it'll be holy crap amazing, I just think that it'll hurt profits enough for Marvel to hold back in giving every character their due.

 

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