Fox Says Wolverine 3 Will Have an R-Rating

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Fox Says Wolverine 3 Will Have an R-Rating

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The effects of Deadpool's success are already starting to trickle down.

From the moment it was revealed that Deadpool had shattered damn near every record for an R-rated movie ever (and a couple Marvel records as well), you just knew that studios left and right would be attempting to hop on the trend as quickly as possible. In fact, Guardians of the Galaxy director James Gunn saw as much coming, and implored these very executives to not take the wrong lesson away from Deadpool's success in a strongly worded Facebook post.

"For the theatrical experience to survive, spectacle films need to expand their definition of what they can be. They need to be unique and true voices of the filmmakers behind them," he wrote.

"They can't just be copying what came before them. So, over the next few months, if you pay attention to the trades, you'll see Hollywood misunderstanding the lesson they should be learning with Deadpool. They'll be green lighting films "like Deadpool" - but, by that, they won't mean "good and original" but "a raunchy superhero film" or "it breaks the fourth wall." They'll treat you like you're stupid, which is the one thing Deadpool didn't do."

And while we're sure that the upcoming Wolverine 3 won't be indulging in any of the raunchier elements of Deadpool, it looks like it will be going after that suddenly-coveted R rating.

The rumors about Wolverine 3's rating first popped up at this year's Toy Fair, where pamphlets were being handed out that suggested the movie would be seeking an R-rating. You can check out a photo of sad pamphlet over at ComicBook.com.

Of course, with Wolverine 3 having yet to even begin filming, it's safe to say that this will not be the final verdict, though Hugh Jackman himself has stated his desire to make an R-rated Wolverine movie in the past.

By the way, they were open to that idea because if you're ever going to make a real character R-rated, Wolverine's the one. But to hear him tell it at the time, he eventually decided not to exclude the character's younger fans. "And I just said, 'In the end, actually, everything we wanted to do with an R-rated version, we are doing in terms of who the character is,"

Time will tell if Fox actually has the balls to go through with their promises, but my guess is that they will given the success of Deadpool (and the sure success of Deadpool 2). For now, we'll just have to wait.

Wolverine 3 is scheduled to hit theaters in March 3rd, 2017.

Related: Ryan Reynolds Interviews Hugh Jackman, Takes Shots at X-Men: Origins

Source: ComicBook.com

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*sigh*
Yet another example of Hollywood completely missing the point. It's not the rating, it's how appropriate the tone is for the material and the concept. Ratings don't guarantee success.

And Wolverine is NOT a character who can carry his own movie. He's not interesting as a main character. He works best as a part of the supporting cast.

One the one hand, Wolverine could work as an R rated film.

On the other hand, I dread to think that studios won't realize that not all movies need to be R rated. Fantastic Four 2 will have an R rating. Man of Steel 2 will now have an R rating. Ant-Man 2 will now have an R rating. I really hope that doesn't happen.

Also, we need more Ryan Reynolds interviews.

I'm a big fan of Ryan Reynolds as a professional interviewer. He doesn't ask what the audience wants to know, but what they deserve to know.

Either way, James Gun. Prophet?

Whatever breaks the chain of PG-13 that has plagued Hollywood movies in the past decade. If this spreads to movies outside the sphere of superheroics, even better.

RJ Dalton:

And Wolverine is NOT a character who can carry his own movie. He's not interesting as a main character. He works best as a part of the supporting cast.

I disagree, there are plenty of stories that could work with him as the solo lead that works. Ironically enough the unwillingness to make the previous two attempts an R rated movie is what has been holding things back form that happening due to said stories he could pull off having material that just couldn't work with a PG13 movie.

If anything this is the first chance we get at a good Wolverine movie.

OK but will he finally be wearing his familiar costume? Yellow and Blue, Yellow and Orange...C'mon Fox, you guys seem to be the only people who haven't embraced comic-accurate costuming until Deadpool. Anyway, here's to hoping Wolverine 3 will turn out to be a good film. I'm not as familiar with Wolverine stories as I am with other characters but hopefully they don't do the weird "he was the first ever human" thing from...can't remember which comic exactly...

Shoggoth2588:
OK but will he finally be wearing his familiar costume? Yellow and Blue, Yellow and Orange...C'mon Fox, you guys seem to be the only people who haven't embraced comic-accurate costuming until Deadpool. Anyway, here's to hoping Wolverine 3 will turn out to be a good film. I'm not as familiar with Wolverine stories as I am with other characters but hopefully they don't do the weird "he was the first ever human" thing from...can't remember which comic exactly...

I think that might be from the Marville comic. Which, I seriously doubt is considered canon. I'm pretty sure he is actually only about 200 years old. Yeah, I know that is not young, but he certainly isn't thousands/millions of years old.

Though, as some other people noted, those pamphlets were printed in advance of Deadpool shattering expectations so it's possible that the rating was decided before Deadpool. However, Deadpool has given Fox a strong reason to branch out the X-Men film brand into R-rated affair like X-Force and not be limited to the big epics like the main line. An R-rating for Wolverine fits luckily so it doesn't seem like following a trend.

As for the rest, I see Deadpool possibly giving other studios reason to consider R-rated comic adaptations. There's really no fear of them going whole-hog into it thought as there's too much money in the PG-13 rating and most of the big name superheroes like the Avengers, Spider-Man, Thor, etc don't fit into an R rating. No, what it can do is have the smaller, more mature stuff that can range from raunchy humor to grimmer themes co-exist alongside the PG-13 blockbusters. What I actually fear is the upcoming Suicide Squad film flopping and giving execs an excuse to not pursue mature-themed comic adaptations as Hollywood has a short memory.

Saltyk:
One the one hand, Wolverine could work as an R rated film.

Indeed. They got pretty close to the R-rating line in the last X-Men movie (mmm... Jackman ass...) and a Wolverine solo film kind of naturally leans towards a R-rating in the same way a Punisher Judge Dredd movie does. Something about how he tends to leave a surprisingly large body count with his whole "knives sticking out of his hands" thing...

On the other hand, I dread to think that studios won't realize that not all movies need to be R rated. Fantastic Four 2 will have an R rating. Man of Steel 2 will now have an R rating. Ant-Man 2 will now have an R rating. I really hope that doesn't happen.

I don't think that will happen. Despite the decent box office for Deadpool, it still is dwarfed by the opening weekends for most of those other movies. What it will most likely mean is that certain solo films on smaller budgets can be given more flexibility with content then before. After that, I'm more concerned about who they will put on as directors.

Saltyk:

Shoggoth2588:
OK but will he finally be wearing his familiar costume? Yellow and Blue, Yellow and Orange...C'mon Fox, you guys seem to be the only people who haven't embraced comic-accurate costuming until Deadpool. Anyway, here's to hoping Wolverine 3 will turn out to be a good film. I'm not as familiar with Wolverine stories as I am with other characters but hopefully they don't do the weird "he was the first ever human" thing from...can't remember which comic exactly...

I think that might be from the Marville comic. Which, I seriously doubt is considered canon. I'm pretty sure he is actually only about 200 years old. Yeah, I know that is not young, but he certainly isn't thousands/millions of years old.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it WAS Marville. My brain did a nice job repressing that one!

RJ Dalton:
*sigh*
Yet another example of Hollywood completely missing the point.

By printing up flyers that almost certainly predate news of success. I mean, I'm sure technically they could have opted for this decision, and just gone to significant expense to create flyers specifically targeting an R-Rating afterwards, but...to what end? Why rush this specifically for Toy Fair?

Also, I find Wolverine incredibly boring, but people willwatch anyway.

Dalrien:
I'm a big fan of Ryan Reynolds as a professional interviewer. He doesn't ask what the audience wants to know, but what they deserve to know.

Either way, James Gun. Prophet?

I'm not sure stating an obvious thing that people have been rattling on about for ages makes you a prophet.

Especially for a Wolverine movie being rated R. Wolverine's a fit. Let's wait until Ant-Man 2 is rated R or something. Or we hear the line "I am motherfucking Groot!"

Wolverine and R rating? Yeah, please, do that. The guy has knives sticking out of his hands, he might as well visibly would somebody with them.

I hope that Wolverine 3 does take place in the new timeline. I'd like to see some development on his part there.

I mean, I assume that it would, but it's too early to tell at the moment.

I now laugh at Suicide Squads PG13 sticker - haha!

If the movie has any kind of realistic depiction of violence (gun, sword) it usually gets a high rating (people do bleed when shot or stabbed, don't know why the ratings board wants to suppress this fact). An R rated Wolverine movie would be good if they let the character do half the stuff he has done on comics.

If anything, I would think Wolverine would be the perfect example for a movie that needs an R rating.

Guy basically has katanas coming out of his hand and the worst I can think he has ever done with them was stabbing someone in the foot in X2.

Not saying I need a movie that needs full body dismemberment... but if they wanted to go the route of a Kill Bill grizzly fight scene... I could totally see Wolverine going full berserker and taking no prisoners!

Something Amyss:

RJ Dalton:
*sigh*

[quote="Dalrien" post="7.934698.23523795"]I'm a big fan of Ryan Reynolds as a professional interviewer. He doesn't ask what the audience wants to know, but what they deserve to know.

Either way, James Gun. Prophet?

I'm not sure stating an obvious thing that people have been rattling on about for ages makes you a prophet.

Especially for a Wolverine movie being rated R. Wolverine's a fit. Let's wait until Ant-Man 2 is rated R or something. Or we hear the line "I am motherfucking Groot!"

Pardon my purposely exaggerated comment. I will never do humour again.

First X-Men was released in 2000. Now it's 2016. It took them 16 years to figure it out!

While I didn't like either of the first two Wolverine films (first is bad, second is OK but dull), I can only see an R rating as a good thing for the character. He's got freaking claws and it always looks silly to see him inhibited by the PG-13 rating.

This is the world we live in. Instead of artistic visionaries, we have marketers. Advertisers.

I won't go as far as saying their scum. Cause they're not. They're leeches. Occasionally useful, like in medicine. But their still a blood sucking parasyte.

Dalrien:

Pardon my purposely exaggerated comment. I will never do humour again.

Even dialing it back, you're not right. So what does the "guys, I was totally joking" bit change?

Nothing, really.

Shoggoth2588:

Saltyk:

Shoggoth2588:
OK but will he finally be wearing his familiar costume? Yellow and Blue, Yellow and Orange...C'mon Fox, you guys seem to be the only people who haven't embraced comic-accurate costuming until Deadpool. Anyway, here's to hoping Wolverine 3 will turn out to be a good film. I'm not as familiar with Wolverine stories as I am with other characters but hopefully they don't do the weird "he was the first ever human" thing from...can't remember which comic exactly...

I think that might be from the Marville comic. Which, I seriously doubt is considered canon. I'm pretty sure he is actually only about 200 years old. Yeah, I know that is not young, but he certainly isn't thousands/millions of years old.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it WAS Marville. My brain did a nice job repressing that one!

They did it in Marville but it was also in the regular comics and touched on in his own series. In it Wolverine, Sabertooth, Wolfsebane, Wildcat, ect all of the Beastial mutants with healing factors are really part of a separate subspecies of humanity. It's shown up hear and then though some writers either forget about it or ignore it.

Or maybe the rating system is so inherently broken and arbitrary that PG-13 has more violence than R and there's no tonal difference between the ratings anymore. That because of the stupid rules by the most puritanical ratings board since the one that killed the golden age going only by their personal hangups (also, hi ESRB) these ratings have all been pushed towards the middle grounds making them, ironically useless. A studio making an announcement like this only to point out the idiotic parody of itself MPAA ratings have become

From my perspective, this is only a good thing. I'm sure we'll see a Deadpool knockoff or two, but Hollywood is going to churn out crap that I'll ignore regardless. Meanwhile, there are few things I find more intolerable than a PG-13 rated action movie.

Wait, they're making another Wolverine movie?

*Facedesks*

Doesn't matter what the rating is, Fox is just fucking clueless and their properties only seem to do well when they keep their grubby mitts off it and just let the talent do their work.

The rumors about Wolverine 3's rating first popped up at this year's Toy Fair, where pamphlets were being handed out that suggested the movie would be seeking an R-rating. You can check out a photo of sad pamphlet over at ComicBook.com.

Misquote more accurate than author's intent? Time will tell. I have no problem with a Wolverine film rated R for violence. The guy regularly hacks off his opponents' limbs. If they start featuring wisecracking "Kick-Ass" Wolverine, though, they will have demonstrated that they completely missed the point.

Was the second Wolverine film changed for the DVD release? It had some pretty brutal stuff in there (multiple stabbings, blood, Hugh's ass). I'd be surprised to see most of that stuff in a PG movie.

Drummodino:
Was the second Wolverine film changed for the DVD release? It had some pretty brutal stuff in there (multiple stabbings, blood, Hugh's ass). I'd be surprised to see most of that stuff in a PG movie.

I think that one was PG-13? To account for the blood? *shrugs* Honestly don't recall, didn't see it as I didn't think it looked that good. Plus, I knew he wouldn't actually lose his immortality/regeneration by the end of it, because you can't change comic book characters, that's a sure fire way to stop making money off them.

Aiddon:
What I actually fear is the upcoming Suicide Squad film flopping and giving execs an excuse to not pursue mature-themed comic adaptations as Hollywood has a short memory.

Unless it stars Batman/Superman a DC movie adaptation flopping isn't anything but routine. It won't affect the industry at large very much

Something Amyss:

Dalrien:

Pardon my purposely exaggerated comment. I will never do humour again.

Even dialing it back, you're not right. So what does the "guys, I was totally joking" bit change?

Nothing, really.

Changes a lot since humor has no need to be correct, but I don't fault you for being humorless.

Aiddon:
What I actually fear is the upcoming Suicide Squad film flopping and giving execs an excuse to not pursue mature-themed comic adaptations as Hollywood has a short memory.

Depends on how or why it flops honestly.

Now that execs know an R movie doesn't necessarily mean less money they might give a sequel of Suicide Squad a shot at an R rating even if it doesn't do spectacularly.

I'm still hyped for it, but I still don't know how they fit the Suicide Squad into a PG-13 rating without severely hampering the characters.

Well this was kind of a long time coming, considering the character is summarised in the phrase "I'm the best at what I do. And what I do ain't pretty." About time we actually saw it not being pretty. Unless by not pretty you mean X-Men Origins Wolverine which... yeah, was not pretty.

wolverine really doesn't work well as a stand alone character he is much better as part of a team or a duo, but if they were going to do a third not only should it be perfectly canon (no deadpool with built in swords and laser eyes)they should also make it kill bill but with wolverine. BTW at least with a R rating it would be a bit more realistic (the guy has knives attached to his hands and uses them so how cant it be bloody)

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