Batman v Superman Goes Full Grimdark, Approves R-Rated Alternate Cut

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Batman v Superman Goes Full Grimdark, Approves R-Rated Alternate Cut

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice's Ultimate Edition is so violent, it's been granted an R-rating.

Remember when Man of Steel came out after years of anticipation, and the major criticism was how dark and violent Superman's universe seemed? Well, that's unlikely to improve with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. A close look at a bulletin from the Classification and Rating Administration reveals this superhero film has an R-rated "Ultimate Edition", presumably for Blu-Ray discs following the theatrical release.

The bulletin lists a newly edited Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition distinct from the PG-13 movie. According to the classification board, this version will be rated R for "sequences of violence". When this rating is applied for violence, it usually describes content which is considered intense and/or persistent. We don't know what the rating entails, but it might refer to anything from fight scenes with vividly broken bones to explicit blood and gore. (Since Batman and Doomsday are in this movie, it could go either way.)

Naturally, R-rated superhero films are a major topic right now, thanks to Deadpool's massively successful theatrical release just two weeks ago. The question is whether Warner Bros approved this Ultimate Cut in response to Deadpool, or already had the Ultimate Edition in the works. Considering how recently the movie launched, it's pretty likely this violent material was completed and removed from the theatrical edition.

This news will probably make Superman fans more than a little nervous, myself included. While I have absolutely no problem with violent superheroes - including Superman himself on occasion - Man of Steel was not a film which represented that violence well, thematically speaking. And if Zack Snyder was filming Batman v Superman with an R-rating in mind, that tone will likely leave traces in even the theatrical release. For better or worse, we'll find out when Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice hits theaters on March 25.

Source: Film Ratings, via Collider

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Yay! A few extra pace-hurting minutes of running time and a bunch of unnecessary and out-of-place CGI blood! I can't wait.

James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

*Bwuh* WHY? It's the DVD, that what the UNRATED EDITION is for. Hell, they'd have been better off calling it the Directors' Cut and been done with it. Proof positive that DC had their head completely up their ass about this stuff.

Soviet Heavy:
James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

Yeah, it's kind of shocking just how accurate he was. The film and game industries look identical to me sometimes. Entertainment executives sure do love their fads.

This could be good for Batman's sequences, can just imagine that opening action scene with a little more crunch of violence...

But Superman has no need for such gratuitous violence because he IS superman :)

Fappy:

Soviet Heavy:
James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

Yeah, it's kind of shocking just how accurate he was. The film and game industries look identical to me sometimes. Entertainment executives sure do love their fads.

I'm not shocked by the accuracy, but I'm utterly stunned at how quickly it seems to be happening. R-rated superhero films used to be rarer than unicorns, which was why Kick Ass was so surprising. But now...

I don't think that announcement says anything good about the quality of the movie. "Hey guys, after seeing the theatrical release you might think this movie sucks... so here's a reason to think about buying the DVD anyway." I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean anything bad either. But I've seen a lot of "wow, that's not a good sign" bits of news floating around BvS, and the trailers haven't been good enough to make me hopeful again.

So the theatrical will be an R movie toned down to PG13? Such a cut has never ended well.

the.chad:
This could be good for Batman's sequences, can just imagine that opening action scene with a little more crunch of violence...

But Superman has no need for such gratuitous violence because he IS superman :)

Was thinking the same thing, grimdark is wholly appropriate for Batsy but not the supes.

Meanwhile, the only other superhero movie we'd actually want to have an R-rating is still not shaping up to have one.

Looking at you, Suicide Squad.

Because when I think of Superman, I think of things that should get a 'hard R' rating. Jesus Christ how much crystal meth are these people smoking.

And so it begins... As James Gunn already said: the studios think that because of Deadpool all we want are R-rated movies. Without realizing that what makes Deadpool enjoyable is the breaking of the mold.

Soviet Heavy:
James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

Meh DVD ratings are weird the 3rd Hobbit film got an R rating for the extended DVD even though no one could tell why I know in the UK they use the rewind function as the reason as people can re-watch violent bits 'out of context' that's why Starship troopers went from 15 in theatres to 18 on VHS.

Superman=gore, titties and lots of F-bombs! Makes perfect sense to me!

/s

Just because you CAN make something R-rated doesn't mean you SHOULD. There are plenty of ways to explore dark, mature content without steering into 17/18+ territory. The DCAU comes to mind:


Still creeps me the hell out...

Marter:
Yay! A few extra pace-hurting minutes of running time and a bunch of unnecessary and out-of-place CGI blood! I can't wait.

Hey, don't diss good digital Ketchup!

I hope this is fantastically awful, 'cos I can hardly wait for the episode of Half In The Bag that covers it. Oh god, I'm thinking about it now...

OK with me, as long as we see Henry Cavil's woohoo.

P-89 Scorpion:

Soviet Heavy:
James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

Meh DVD ratings are weird the 3rd Hobbit film got an R rating for the extended DVD even though no one could tell why I know in the UK they use the rewind function as the reason as people can re-watch violent bits 'out of context' that's why Starship troopers went from 15 in theatres to 18 on VHS.

... please tell me this is a "nanny-state" joke. They can't be that bloody stupid, can they?

From chasing the Avenger's to chasing Deadpool.

Real impressive.

Marter:
Yay! A few extra pace-hurting minutes of running time and a bunch of unnecessary and out-of-place CGI blood! I can't wait.

Eh Comic Books versions of these heroes as of late has been technically R Rated already.

I read Superman comics with blood and swear langauge and these are comics AFTER the "Dark Age of Comics".

I'm already used to the idea of a R-rated/Mature/Adult content in these Traditional Superheroes.

And Marvel is guilty of the samething in their comic books.

And lets not forget DC's standalone animated movies as of late.

Fappy:

Soviet Heavy:
James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

Yeah, it's kind of shocking just how accurate he was. The film and game industries look identical to me sometimes. Entertainment executives sure do love their fads.

What you are going to listen to the guy that directed and screenwrote the first 2 live action Scooby Doo movies?

And of course I am surrounded by people that will bash on DC because of following Deadpool.

May I remind you that this film was probably finished BEFORE Deadpool was released.

I am pretty certain they had this R-Rated content in Batman v Superman already.

Samtemdo8:
And of course I am surrounded by people that will bash on DC because of following Deadpool.

May I remind you that this film was probably finished BEFORE Deadpool was released.

I am pretty certain they had this R-Rated content in Batman v Superman already.

NO! You're insane! I bet they quickly got the entire crew/cast/writers/effects department together and filmed it last weekend.

In all seriousness, I don't see why people are getting upset(other than peoples tendency to cry foul at any given opportunity). A few extended fight scenes on the DVD, maybe Wonder Woman using that sword a bit more, sounds good to me.

Whoa, what the hell is this "it's R-rated so it has to mean it's grimdark" assumption? Deadpool was not grimdark, most adult comedies and over the top action films are not grimdark. Why this ridiculous attempt at fanning the internet fanboy flames? And grimdark is a real meaningless term now it is used for anything that isn't all smiles and cuddles. I would recommend not jumping to conclusions from a single rating. Or is this about clicks and comments again?

Well, if you're going to do dark, you should do it right.

Xsjadoblayde:
Whoa, what the hell is this "it's R-rated so it has to mean it's grimdark" assumption? Deadpool was not grimdark, most adult comedies and over the top action films are not grimdark. Why this ridiculous attempt at fanning the internet fanboy flames? And grimdark is a real meaningless term now it is used for anything that isn't all smiles and cuddles. I would recommend not jumping to conclusions from a single rating. Or is this about clicks and comments again?

And even than what is with this backlash against "Grim-Dark" stuff anyway? When did it became an objectivly bad concept and content for a superhero movie?

Mangod:

... please tell me this is a "nanny-state" joke. They can't be that bloody stupid, can they?

Nope that is a real reason for giving home video releases higher ratings than cinema releases the ability to see sex and violence out of context.

Xsjadoblayde:
Whoa, what the hell is this "it's R-rated so it has to mean it's grimdark" assumption? Deadpool was not grimdark, most adult comedies and over the top action films are not grimdark. Why this ridiculous attempt at fanning the internet fanboy flames? And grimdark is a real meaningless term now it is used for anything that isn't all smiles and cuddles. I would recommend not jumping to conclusions from a single rating. Or is this about clicks and comments again?

Yeah it's kind of an assumption... but it's one I understand. This is made by the same Snyder and Co. that "grimdarked-up" Man of Steel with a lot of emo stuff not in other versions of the Superman story.

Now whether that's bad or not... I was in my formative years in the 90's. A bit of grimdark isn't always a bad thing. I wouldn't mind such at all in a Batman film. It just really seemed kind of out of place for Supes.

Samtemdo8:
And of course I am surrounded by people that will bash on DC because of following Deadpool.

May I remind you that this film was probably finished BEFORE Deadpool was released.

I am pretty certain they had this R-Rated content in Batman v Superman already.

Right but I don't think filming was done before Deadpool first announced it would have an R-rating or planned to go to lengths to get one since you receive a rating and not just say what you want it to be. so whether or not they started filming everything and cut what the MPAA would consider it an R-rating or they changed plans to add a bit of optionally R-rated added details they'd fill comfortable with cutting in case Deadpool flopped they only announced this info after Deadpool broke box-office records and not when the home version is being released because now is when the media is still talking about R-rated Comic films. I assume if talk about this gets spread wide enough by the time the BvS:DoJ is playing people will be asking if the film is PG-13 or if the R-rated version is available in theatres.

Ok, I can get Dc wanting to copy marvel since avengers showed there is massive money in a cinematic universe. But come on now, you are trying to copy Fox here this time, a studio that made R valuable again in spite of their every effort and seemingly largely because they didn't care about the property it was attached to. They lucked out with a great mix of creative content and a very driven and dedicated staff pushing it the way fans wanted it done right. Going Grimdrak R in bats v sups just to try to ape yet another popular comic movie occurrence is just terrible,. The last Sups movie was roasted for its tone, this seems poorly thought out and, yet again, like the studio is chasing every thing that got buck in hopes of pulling some for themselves (and will likely not because of the lack of actual love in the project). And this really looks like a desperate "hey look at us" thing here as an attempted cash in. Between copying the dark tone of the Nolan trilogy in sup's last cinema outing, copying Marvel with their pursuit of a cinematic universe, and now copying fox in using the R, I really have just been having more and more doubts about how the whole thing will turn out. You don't copy that many unless you really lack confidence in your actual identity.

Soviet Heavy:
James Gunn was on the money. Hollywood is going to run this R rated shit into the ground.

No Shit. Gotta love the obvious stupidity of Hollywood (or the game industry for that matter).

Would love to see an R-Rated Suicide squad movie because, in reality, that makes sense. An R-rated superman vs batman? Significantly less sense. I don't see either of them saying "fuck" very often. I don't really WANT to see either of them actually fucking (each other or other willing participants). And since neither one kills people (or at least they're not supposed to) I can't imagine the violence being necessary for an R-Rating either... so aside from wanting to bank on the success of Deadpool in a way that Marvel simply can't because Disney, why the hell is this getting an R-Rating (from a narrative / thematic standpoint)?

They might as well have said "you have no reason to see this in the theater"

PG-13 is now the sign of blandness, very occasionally do you get something great like Guardians of the Galaxy

Most everything else there really is no reason to see it in the theater

I wept for this generation after hearing the Starship Troopers remake will be pg-13

rembrandtqeinstein:
They might as well have said "you have no reason to see this in the theater"

PG-13 is now the sign of blandness, very occasionally do you get something great like Guardians of the Galaxy

Most everything else there really is no reason to see it in the theater

I wept for this generation after hearing the Starship Troopers remake will be pg-13

I think the reason PG-13 is the sign of blandness is that most blockbuster directors are severely restricted in their creative freedom because studios are afraid of altering the formula and also have to sell to as wide an audience as possible. Directors of smaller films are more free to experiment, and are also free to go R if they want since it's easier to recoup on investment. This is silly, since a movie with big stars, blinding special effects, a newsworthy budget, and are not comedies are almost guaranteed not to lose money regardless of what's in the film.

Avengers got an initial R rating because the Coulson death scene was a little bit more graphic (you could see some blood or something from the wound iirc) and this isn't "a superman movie", but a BvS with a Batman inspired by frank miller's version. So it would be nice if people stop getting their panties in a bunch (too late for that though...)

I really can't express in the english language, how few fucks I give about this. This movie is nothing but a fanboy dream fight that will have zero actual repercussions, the fact that they've added more cgi blood to it means jack shit to me.

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