Fans "Fix" Ghostbusters Trailer With Recut

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Fans "Fix" Ghostbusters Trailer With Recut

The first official Ghostbusters trailer was kind of underwhelming. Some fans have fixed it.

A lot of fans, myself included, are quite looking forward to the nostalgia-laden gender-flipped Ghostbusters Reboot. However, when the first official trailer hit... a lot of people were pretty underwhelmed. The jokes fell flat, the characters didn't seem very interesting, there was way too much talking and explanation... and what was with that horrible remix of the classic Ghostbusters theme?

Thankfully, fans have come to the rescue, creating a recut of the trailer which makes me actually want to see the movie.

It's perfect! Filmmakers take note: when you are making a reboot of a classic 80s franchise in order to cash in on nostalgia, you should probably take a look at what fans liked about said franchise in the first place. The new trailer makes the film feel a lot more like the campy ghostbusting romp of the originals, while still showing off the new cast at their best moments.

What do you guys think? Do you prefer the original trailer, or this fan recut?

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It's better, sure, only because they made it shorter and added the original song. Also better edited, I'll give it that.

But the worst parts are still when they actually show the actors doing... anything. Still gonna bomb.

About the only thing that might save this movie is if this trailer is the fault of the marketing team, and not the actual movie itself. It's not exactly unheard of for the people in marketing to be in their own little world drastically missing the point of the stuff they're supposed to promote.

I don't think that's the case, but it's a possibility.

I'll say this much about the original trailer. Aesthetically it was very pleasing. The colors of the ghosts, particularly out in open NYC, do look very nice. That said unless the trailer missed the point of the movie I think it's going to critically bomb. Even with some stuff that was in the trailer it felt like very forced humor and I don't necessarily think that's the actors fault. The only thing that actually got a chuckle out of me in the trailer was "it's a Cadillac" because of the delivery.

Man, it says a lot about the movie if part of the fan trailer's way of fixing things is cutting out just about every joke.

Here's to hoping that we get a fan recut of the whole movie!

Steven Bogos:
Filmmakers take note: when you are making a reboot of a classic 80s franchise in order to cash in on nostalgia, you should probably take a look at what fans liked about said franchise in the first place.

Not necessarily. Need I remind you of Transformers?

What I like isn't necessarily what most people like. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. The same goes for all of us. Frankly they're trying to do with Ghostbusters what happened to Transformers. A faithful sequel bringing the IP into the future is nice but not necessarily profitable. A profitable bastardization is much more preferred by studio execs than a faithful sequel/adaptation that doesn't make money. Ninety-nine out of a hundred studio execs would rather make the next Bayformers or than the next Dredd or even Fury Road because their job isn't to make good movies, its to make money.

This trailer is better, but, it the final movie will have all that terrible crap in it still. Will wait for the fan cut of the movie.

Its amazing what can happen when you basically cut Melissa McCarthy's dialogue from movies.

The fan cut of the trailer is a huge improvement. Unfortunately, changing the trailer does not change the movie, so I basically just wasted my time watching a wet turd get polished and molded into a smiley-face.

I mean, it's a cute smiley-face, but it's still slimy, brown, and reeks like shit.

I think the biggest disappointment is that every video I've watched making any reference to the movie has to have at least one "gorilla" comment. I take some modicum of solace in the fact that it's mostly idiot teenagers (mostly...), but it's still kinda sad to see how far we haven't come in the last 50 years or so since the Civil Rights movement.

The Enquirer:
I'll say this much about the original trailer. Aesthetically it was very pleasing. The colors of the ghosts, particularly out in open NYC, do look very nice. That said unless the trailer missed the point of the movie I think it's going to critically bomb. Even with some stuff that was in the trailer it felt like very forced humor and I don't necessarily think that's the actors fault. The only thing that actually got a chuckle out of me in the trailer was "it's a Cadillac" because of the delivery.

Really, I thought the whole joke about the hearse was atrocious. I mean, we *get* that it's funny because they're driving a hearse, but it's a *visual* joke. Explaining it just assumes your audience is composed of morons.

EDIT: The delivery of "It's a Cadillac!" was kind of funny, though, I guess.

That cut could have tricked me into watching the movie.

And all it had to do was cut our most of the dialog and add some nostalgia music and audio effects.

I liked the cut. Probably because a person that was so stereotypically black she could have been a part of KKK propaganda isn't in it.

It won't change the quality of the film itself. Speaking of the quality of the film, I would have thought it would take at least a few weeks to become absolutely sick of the raging echo chamber surrounding this film, but apparently days would have been a better estimate.

I suppose adding polish to a turd does make it shine, even if it leaves you with a just a shiny turd in the end.

No... ist still shitty humor. Cutting shit and adding original Music aint make it better... just Shorter and more bearable.

Heh, so cutting out the dialogue and the humour does make a difference afterall. In saying so it only cover up the truth but I suppose time will tell if the movie will anything decent.

Reminds me of the Phantom Edit which recut the Star Wars prequel trilogy and somehow made Hayden Christiansen a better actor.

frizzlebyte:

The Enquirer:
I'll say this much about the original trailer. Aesthetically it was very pleasing. The colors of the ghosts, particularly out in open NYC, do look very nice. That said unless the trailer missed the point of the movie I think it's going to critically bomb. Even with some stuff that was in the trailer it felt like very forced humor and I don't necessarily think that's the actors fault. The only thing that actually got a chuckle out of me in the trailer was "it's a Cadillac" because of the delivery.

Really, I thought the whole joke about the hearse was atrocious. I mean, we *get* that it's funny because they're driving a hearse, but it's a *visual* joke. Explaining it just assumes your audience is composed of morons.

EDIT: The delivery of "It's a Cadillac!" was kind of funny, though, I guess.

It was literally just the "it's a Cadillac" line that made me chuckle. Like I said the humor seemed very forced like the hearse bit as you described.

I haven't seen the original one, but if this is better, I'm not impressed.

It always amuses me when people talk about these bad 80s movies and nostalgia. About how they should listen to 'the fans'. As if it's a demographic group or something. It's called pandering and it's bad. Sometimes it works like with Star Wars but always to the detriment of the quality of the film.

What annoys me the most is how few people are actually willing to admit they hate this just because they cast some women to play the leading roles.

Huh, so you can polish a turd. Unfortunately it's a cheap knock off turd rather than the real deal.

A thousand times better. It even included the only joke that made me laugh in the original trailer.

But in the end it only shows one real thing. That trailers say basically nothing about the actual quality of the movie. There's so many ways to cut bits and pieces of a movie together, each giving a completely different vibe. God knows how the dialogue and general writing will hold up in the final product. Though the original trailer doesn't really inspire much confidence.

Draconalis:
That cut could have tricked me into watching the movie.

And all it had to do was cut our most of the dialog and add some nostalgia music and audio effects.

I am not sure if it is depressing that people who do this for a living have no idea how to 'sell' that appeals to original and new fans of a series reboot, or impressed that this teaser would've made me want to see this movie, if I hadn't seen the terrible stereotypes and 'pop culture' references in the 'professional trailer'.

Nimcha:
What annoys me the most is how few people are actually willing to admit they hate this just because they cast some women to play the leading roles.

That's awful presumptuous of you to call them presumptuous of the film.

I don't like it because even though they cast all women to try something new, they essentially made female Egon, Ray, Venkman, and Winston. The spin is they made them all buffoon characters. Ray and Egon were pretty smart in their field and weren't really bumbling idiots. Not to say that these women are, but this trailer is a lot more about what these funny ladies are doing. It looks like this movie is going to be filled with 1 liners and cheap dialogue aimed for a barrage quick chuckles. We might get a brief moment of serious exposition of someone's past just for the sake of a serious moment where someone cries or mopes as that is part of the formula but it looks pretty hollow so far.

Just to give you a feel for the original tone:

Notice how Winston wasn't a black stereotype, he was just a average guy. Notice the not-over-the-top whacky zany atmosphere. Have a look at the original two trailers and you can see an effort to put an actual touch of horror into the ghost scenes. The light hearted tone of the movie is only there to serve as a counter balance to the horror aspect.

Finally, lets again note that they casted all women (instead of multi-sex) because this movie totally isn't about sexism. Just stating that to show how ridiculous that sounds. This movie is totally about sexism. It only exists for the sake of gender bending, otherwise why is the team not multi-sex if we are attempting political correctness?

This new trailer shows no real regard for the source material. It highly suggests that the movie uses Ghostbusters as a simple prop package to an otherwise standard whacky comedy. You can hold off judgement until the movie comes out but I have seen all I need to to know that this new movie is just trying to be loud, obnoxious, whacky, and make fun of the idea of the ghostbusters. Plus, it is a little racist and a little sexist to be honest.

Zenja:

*big snip*

THIS - so much

The difference in tone from the original two movies' trailers - compared to the almost happy-go-lucky tone of the new movie is undeniable.

The nostalgia centered on the originals was because they balanced funny with slice of life - while this new one... if someone had told me it was an Adam Sandler movie I would not have doubted them.

You can polish a turd - but it will still smell funny - yes this recut is better, but but that doesn't make it good

This works better inspite of the footage and because of the Ray Parker Jr. song. You could have footage of a bunch of urinating dogs set to that song and it would still work. That's the power of music.

Though cutting out most of those horrible jokes does improve it overal. But they're still in there, so...

I find it concerning that they accomplished this suckectomy by excising the bulk of the content previously shown.

VoidWanderer:

Draconalis:
That cut could have tricked me into watching the movie.

And all it had to do was cut our most of the dialog and add some nostalgia music and audio effects.

I am not sure if it is depressing that people who do this for a living have no idea how to 'sell' that appeals to original and new fans of a series reboot, or impressed that this teaser would've made me want to see this movie, if I hadn't seen the terrible stereotypes and 'pop culture' references in the 'professional trailer'.

I don't think it's that they have no idea how to sell it, it's that what they're selling is implicitly malformed as thing to sell. This is looking less and less like a reboot and more and more like a mash-up, grafting four different comedic styles onto what amounts to an old 80's routine about ghosts and small business originally written around a particular mix of personalities designed to play off each other.

Not all comedy routines mesh well with all styles. George Carlin's style wouldn't work the same way if he tried it on with Tim Allen's bits, and visa versa. I think some of what we're seeing is this, and it's going to be worse for people who don't click with the comedic styles of the leads to begin with because their suspension is already blown...they come in with little to no faith in the storytellers because they never respected/took interest with one or more of the people they're supposed to be listening to in the first place.

It could work, it could even work with this cast and crew, but it won't work if they don't either have their own routines within the concept (which they mostly seem not to) or adapt their personas to better fit the original roles they're drawing from (which they don't seem to have done).

As always, they might surprise us yet. We won't know for sure whether this thing will flop or fly until it hits the market.

My guess is it'll coast by on the wings of the well-intentioned, the morbidly curious, and the easily entertained before retiring to the dustbin of pop-culture to be drawn out as an example of convenience for anyone's arguments about the next big whatever.

But I could be wrong.

To bad the original trailer allready showed us what the "humor" will be all about:

Female body jokes, female insecurities, quips from the "sassy" big black woman... cause this trailer DOES a better job at being a trailer for the movie then the first one.

The music is the classic song that slowly fades into the new version, we get some action shots, get introduced to the cast. And get to see just enough so that we want to know what the heck is going on in the movie.

But as a said, the first trailer completly ruined it by showing us that this is just your 08/15 chick flick with ghostbusters slapped on to cash in on an old name while trying to shoehorn in feminist agenda. And if you say feminism has nothing to do with it how about googling for that picture where the entire cast and staff holds up silly "girl power" signs in a group photo?

It occurred to me that part of the problem with the original trailer is that it violates one of the oldest rules of storytelling, and one that goes double for a largely visual medium like film: "Show, don't tell." If someone is good at something, show them being good at something, don't have a character *say* they're good at it. Don't assume the audience won't get that the joke is that the car is a hearse; it dilutes the joke. I recognize a trailer has less time to convey information than the feature film does, but it's unwise to allow your trailer to imply that the film itself bungles such an elementary feature of good story-telling.

Nimcha:
What annoys me the most is how few people are actually willing to admit they hate this just because they cast some women to play the leading roles.

*sigh*

You know, it's entirely possible that some people, maybe many people, do in fact dislike this reboot at least in part for that reason.

But, seriously, what the hell? You're annoyed you aren't getting to criticize people, because of what they aren't saying?

How about trying to engage with what they are saying instead of indulging in a kind of petty pigeon-holing that casts a pall over any and all criticism, no matter how considered or well-founded? How about engaging people at face value in what they actually say rather than presuming to announce what their "true" opinions are? Much less that said super-opinion is the only reason for what they're saying?

How about not trying to show people up as being kneejerk and reactionary in a form that suggests exactly those qualities?

Zenja:

Nimcha:
What annoys me the most is how few people are actually willing to admit they hate this just because they cast some women to play the leading roles.

That's awful presumptuous of you to call them presumptuous of the film.

It's what it boils down to. Of course some people are going to quote me saying they have different reasons but that's not the point. Every reboot gets criticism from 'fans' or whatever they want to call themselves. That's nothing new. But this has been blowing out of proportion for one simple reason. You and I both know what that is.

Nimcha:

Zenja:

Nimcha:
What annoys me the most is how few people are actually willing to admit they hate this just because they cast some women to play the leading roles.

That's awful presumptuous of you to call them presumptuous of the film.

It's what it boils down to. Of course some people are going to quote me saying they have different reasons but that's not the point. Every reboot gets criticism from 'fans' or whatever they want to call themselves. That's nothing new. But this has been blowing out of proportion for one simple reason. You and I both know what that is.

Yeah no.. thats just like... your opinion man.

People have given plenty of reasons why this new movie doesnt work out and why its not a good movie.

You just refuse to accept that its not the all female cast that they object to. What they do is critisizing EVERYTHING else about the movie. The shoddy writing, the slapstick forced humor, the CGI, the lack of chemestry between the characters, the painfull stereotypes.

Look, your argument boils down to: "If the cast was all male everyone would like the movie!" to wich i say: BULLSHIT!

Even WITH an all male cast this movie would STILL shit all over the legacy of the ghostbuster movies and couldnt miss the point anymore if they pointed in the other direction.

The humor in the original ghostbusters wasnt slapstick, it was incredibly sarcastic characters making light of an incredibly serious situation aka they where BELIEVABLE. The new characters? Complete stereotypes: The crazy blond, the awkward teacher, the fat girl and the sassy black woman. This is a CHECKLIST movie without heart and soul. And the first trailer showed you everything you need to know to see that this movie is going to be a disastter. This is gods of aegypt bad.

Original Winston wasn't the BLACK GUY and that was amazing. He was the audience surrogate, the everyman. How awesome and rare is that. You have a bunch of weird goofball comic relief characters, and the BLACK guy is the normal one of the group that the audience is supposed to relate to.

Winnosh:
Original Winston wasn't the BLACK GUY and that was amazing. He was the audience surrogate, the everyman. How awesome and rare is that. You have a bunch of weird goofball comic relief characters, and the BLACK guy is the normal one of the group that the audience is supposed to relate to.

Imagine if they had actually gone with the original idea of casting Eddie Murphy for that role? Now, Eddie Murphy's great (at least he used to be), but it would've changed the character entirely from a down-to-earth working man to a wired attention seeker.

Better re-cut of the trailer

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