There May Never be a Witcher 4

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There May Never be a Witcher 4

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CD Projekt Red says "never say never," but is planning for Blood and Wine to be the last time they visit Geralt's world.

The Witcher 3 - Blood and Wine is coming at the end of this month, and it looks like it will be the last we see of Geralt for a long time - perhaps even ever. In an interview with Eurogamer, CD Projekt co-founder Marcin Iwinski said that the company has absolutely no plans for re-visiting The Witcher any time in the foreseeable future.

"As we said before, never say never [but] right now it's really Blood and Wine. This is the end. Blood and Wine is [the] closing and there won't be any Witcher any time soon - if there ever will be one. And I would really like to see how people feel about it, if they will enjoy it," said Iwinski.

"We don't have anything planned as of now to be honest on the next Witcher."

So what's next for the studio? Those who have been following closely will know that CDPR's next big title will be Cyberpunk 2077 - a new IP for the studio that will take the form of a science-fiction roleplaying game. It will be released sometime after 2017.

Down the line, the studio plans to release a second AAA RPG at some point in the next six years. Further than that is anyone's guess, but it looks like The Witcher 4 will be stored in the same "break glass in case of dire emergency" vault that Half-Life 3 and the Pokemon MMO are in.

If you've still got a hankering for Geralt after Blood and Wine is done and dusted, might I suggest reading the books? They are actually really good.

Source: Eurogamer

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im hoping for a magic/steampunk RPG

Fair enough, you can't keep spinning the story out forever, that ends with you getting Lost.

They've done nothing but The Witcher for over a decade now, if they apply the same level of care and attention to story/gameplay that The Witcher 2-3 had I expect Cyberpunk will be awesome.

Ah! But Cyberpunk is not an original IP, as it is an adaptation of the Cyberpunk roleplaying game, best known for its second edition Cyberpunk 2020!

I'm okay with that. They're great developers so I have no doubt they'll succeed in creating new franchises without the need to continue a story they think is best over. In today's entertainment, there's plenty of examples of franchises/series that ended much later than they should have, until they lost their popularity.

Long as the DLC gives a satisfying end, even if it has him walking off into the sunset. A lack of decent closure is an unpleasant feeling.

They've been doing the same game series for about a decade now? When it's put like that I can't blame them for wanting to try new things.

Maybe this time they won't pull something off like they did with AMD through Game Works.

But what will I use as a benchmarking tool that also happens to be a fantastic game in 7 years? I guess whatever their latest title is given that it'll probably be at least almost as good.

So instead of milking the crap out of a very popular franchise they are moving on to a different and riskier IP.

I have nothing but respect for CD Projekt Red, they've earned my support for a long time.

Makes sense. Dev costs are long and expensive for games like the Witcher. Their next project is Cyberpunk, which I expect'll go for quite a while. Not sure what they'll do after 2077 but I imagine everyone at CD Projekt Red will want to do something other than Witcher.

Saelune:
Long as the DLC gives a satisfying end, even if it has him walking off into the sunset. A lack of decent closure is an unpleasant feeling.

Kind of like blue balls. Except worse because I can make my own ending with blue balls.

Revolutionary:
But what will I use as a benchmarking tool that also happens to be a fantastic game in 7 years? I guess whatever their latest title is given that it'll probably be at least almost as good.

Benchmarking? Uh oh. I'm just restarting the Witcher franchise(only played 1 before) and now I'm worried I won't be able to run 3 well.

So what's next for the studio? Those who have been following closely will know that CDPR's next big title will be Cyberpunk 2077 - a completely original IP form the studio that will take the form of a science-fiction roleplaying game. It will be released sometime after 2017.

Point of order, it isn't an original IP, Cyberpunk 2077 is based on the tabletop RPG Cyberpunk 2020.

This isn't news... they literally said the Witcher 3 was going to be their last Witcher game before it even came out.

After reading the comments: They said that they want to do an original IP after Cyberpunk 2077, but they haven't thought that far ahead since they throw all of their resources into the game they are currently working on. They aren't a studio that mass produces products, they release quality products and as such, aren't just trying to make game after game after game.

Saelune:
Long as the DLC gives a satisfying end, even if it has him walking off into the sunset. A lack of decent closure is an unpleasant feeling.

Kinda like Bruce Banner walking down the road at the end of episodes in that old Incredible Hulk series y'know?

My god, a game company that has a popular franchise that *gasp* intends to explore new IP instead of milking their existing ones with endless sequels? What has the game industry come to? In all seriousness though, this is why I always have had respect for CD project Red, even if the Witcher games aren't really my thing, they have always had my respect and I'm very interested in what they do next

Good. The series had a satisfying end, no need to continue it. Move onto different pastures.

Ftaghn To You Too:
Ah! But Cyberpunk is not an original IP, as it is an adaptation of the Cyberpunk roleplaying game, best known for its second edition Cyberpunk 2020!

Which predicted a whole bunch of the advancements (and randomly some of the political ones like the European Union ) of the last couple decades. They were describing what the internet would become while it was still extremely obscure to most outside the circles of tech and academia. Yes, a lot of their predictions were based on the collective genius of the author's involved in the cyberpunk genre. They just wanted to make a way to play in their favorite genre's world. A bit like how Tolkien's (and other fantasy authors') world impressed others enough to make a game that allowed others to play in similar realms.

The stuff about the rise of corporate sovereignty and entire corporation-nations is some of the scariest yet believable horror I've seen. The world is going to be as dark as Witcher 3's if not more so. How much metal and programs do you cram into yourself before you're no longer human and don't have the same rights? Thats a deep and pertinent question in cyberpunk. You don't like who you are? You can buy new eyes faces and organs or reshape yourself into a cat person, a vulcan, or an elf. Or a robot, that seems to be the most popular and powerful.

The internet of the cyberpunk world is what things like second life only wish they could be. Jacked up into the neural interface you can think and feel the data. You can learn a language with a program, almost as fast as it is portrayed in The Matrix. You can hack with your mind. Poke into the wrong places, and people will FRY your brain. The company that did it? They are their own law and were thus authorized to do it.

This game has the potential to be even more deep and dark and thought provoking than The Witcher 3. At least they have a devteam who won't flinch at the subject matter.

I fully expect the Cyberpunk 2077 game to deeply address human rights and AI rights, what it means to be human, partially human, or a non-human sentient. Yes, we're all people, but when you see a terminator style chassis that can kill you all in seconds casually sit next to you and speak with a synth-human voice, you may feel a bit cyberphobic. Issues with cyborgs, AI, and their respective rights in a society that may transfer to post-human eventually could all be addressed. Seeing how they took things with the Witcher series, I have high hopes these will be addressed or even central plot points.

Good. Sometimes, stories need to have an ending and not every franchise has a Final Fantasy-like "new game, new world, old name" cop out.

"There may never be a Witcher 4"

Um, why would anyone EXPECT there to be? Witcher 3's story closes the book about as conclusively as you can in a non-linear story. Shit, it's entirely possible for Geralt to officially retire at the end of that game.

Sure, maybe at some point it would be interesting to revisit the Witcher universe, but the character and his story don't need to be a part of that.

I thought we were all clear that the guys over at CD Projekt Red are cut from a different cloth then all these other hacks running their franchises into the ground with sequel after pointless sequel.

In the modern age of expansive cinematic universes and long running TV epics, it sometimes feels like it's been a long time since a large scale story actually ENDED, but let us not forget that, in spite of what Hollywood would have you believe, endings are a natural part of a story's life; when it's time comes, a good story knows how to die with pride.

The story of Geralt of Rivia has a perfectly fine ending as is; it's over, leave it alone and move on.

Of course there may never be another [insert anything]. If they're not planning something then that's the most honest thing they can say. But they're still a business and The Witcher is their best selling franchise. 5-6 years from now we'll probably see another. Perhaps based on books, perhaps something new. Perhaps a prequel or a spin-ff with a brand new character from another school.

I'm okay with that. The Witcher had its run and all things has to end sometime. Better to leave it on a high note. I'm still excited about their other projects.

sumanoskae:
"There may never be a Witcher 4"

Um, why would anyone EXPECT there to be? Witcher 3's story closes the book about as conclusively as you can in a non-linear story. Shit, it's entirely possible for Geralt to officially retire at the end of that game.

Sure, maybe at some point it would be interesting to revisit the Witcher universe, but the character and his story don't need to be a part of that.

I thought we were all clear that the guys over at CD Projekt Red are cut from a different cloth then all these other hacks running their franchises into the ground with sequel after pointless sequel.

In the modern age of expansive cinematic universes and long running TV epics, it sometimes feels like it's been a long time since a large scale story actually ENDED, but let us not forget that, in spite of what Hollywood would have you believe, endings are a natural part of a story's life; when it's time comes, a good story knows how to die with pride.

The story of Geralt of Rivia has a perfectly fine ending as is; it's over, leave it alone and move on.

To be fair, they could've done one that doesn't follow Geralt. Maybe they could've done a game starring Ciri, or show what Yen or Triss do on their own adventures.

Witcher was fun, but I am really looking forward to their cyberpunk game. CDPR aren't the kind to beat a dead horse.

But a Pokemon MMO only sounds good on paper, in practice it would be an atrocious grindfest because every MMO has to be the same.

Double Post Sorry!

Saelune:
Long as the DLC gives a satisfying end, even if it has him walking off into the sunset. A lack of decent closure is an unpleasant feeling.

The ending to the Witcher 3 gave me all kinds of warm and fuzzies. What didn't you like about it?

On the one hand its kinda sad because The Witcher 3 was a fantastic game and one of the best crafted fantasy worlds to play in, in a long time. On the other hand its nice to see a series go out an high note and not drag out until you just want someone to put it out of its misery. I'm very excited to see what CDR does in the future. If someone ever does a Witcher 4 it needs to be a different character. Cuz Geralt is done. I would like them to explore more of the multi world thing that goes on in The Witcher with a different character. Some of the worlds we got glimpses of looked pretty interesting.

JUMBO PALACE:

Saelune:
Long as the DLC gives a satisfying end, even if it has him walking off into the sunset. A lack of decent closure is an unpleasant feeling.

The ending to the Witcher 3 gave me all kinds of warm and fuzzies. What didn't you like about it?

Havent played it yet. Want to play from start to finish, but I don't want to work so hard to be disappointed.

This isn't news. They said even before Witcher III's release that it was the last Witcher game.

Personally, that's a good thing. Geralt's story is done in my eyes, his tale, his legacy, his journey is complete, its done. Pass on the torch to someone else, like Ciri or some other witcher in training and have them go on world-changing adventure. The world of The Witcher is still brimming with intrigue but the focus is due for a change.

Saelune:

JUMBO PALACE:

Saelune:
Long as the DLC gives a satisfying end, even if it has him walking off into the sunset. A lack of decent closure is an unpleasant feeling.

The ending to the Witcher 3 gave me all kinds of warm and fuzzies. What didn't you like about it?

Havent played it yet. Want to play from start to finish, but I don't want to work so hard to be disappointed.

You won't be. Unless you get the bad ending. But the game has a very definitive ending. Closure is not a problem for The Witcher 3. DLC is not there to provide closure. It's there to provide more content because the game is so fuckin' good you'll want more of it.

Lots of devs should be taking notes on how to properly end a series and give players a satisfying conclusion that will make them feel like it was worthwhile. Like both the journey and its destination are equally important. Unlike Bioware and the abysmal idea that it's all about the journey. No it very much fuckin' isn't.

I for one am really happy that they are no longer making Witcher games. The Witcher 3 this is the best is the series. Let the last in the series remain the best in the series. I wish more developers did this. For me personally and this might sound a little strange, but the more I like a game the less I want to see sequels to it. Once you've made an amazing game move on to something different, otherwise your franchise will stagnate.

Makes me think of something Stephen King said, when he was asked why Firestarter ended where it did. He said something along the lines of "I was told that when you don't have an answer for 'What happened next?', that is the point where the story should end."

CD Projekt understands that, and far too many developers and publishers don't. Not just in games, but in all media.

Why would there be another Witcher game (at least one starring Geralt)? I thought the ending made it pretty abundantly clear that this was Geralt's last hoorah.

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