Report: Nintendo NX is Portable With Detachable Controllers

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Report: Nintendo NX is Portable With Detachable Controllers

A new report claims that the mysterious Nintendo NX console is portable, with detachable controllers, and uses cartridges.

Eurogamer reports that "a number of sources" have confirmed that Nintendo's next gaming console, the NX, will be "a high-powered handheld console with its own display," with two detachable controllers on either side of the screen.

Further, the report indicates that the system can be connected to a docking station for use on a larger screen. "A base unit, or dock station, is used to connect the brain of the NX - within the controller - to display on your TV," the Eurogamer report reads. The new report also corroborates earlier rumors, which indicated that the system will use cartridges.

"Nintendo has not made any new official announcements regarding NX which is due to launch in March 2017," a Nintendo spokesperson told Eurogamer. "As such [we're] unable to comment on the various rumours and speculations circulating."

The NX is slated to release in March 2017, accompanied by The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

Since we don't have any pictures of the console, here's a Breath of the Wild gallery to hold you over.

[Source: Eurogamer]

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This sounds absurd. What are they thinking?

A handheld that can trade blows with the PS4 and Xbone is going to need so much juice it isn't even funny and I can only think of so many things to even try and solve the issue without utterly gimping the system or making it absolutely fuckhuge.

But if they can truly deliver on the power on the go while the station can provide a bit extra power for 4K, it's an interesting idea and if Nintendo doesn't fuck it up, they might just have a chance here for a good system that matches the limitations now set forth by the new PS4 and whatever Scorpio is, as they have to also run on the older hardware.

I think Nintendo has a good shot with this and preemptively managed to outwit Sony and Microsoft so the playing field might finally be even for the first time since the Gamecube.

Westaway:
This sounds absurd. What are they thinking?

It is so fucking crazy it just might work. Using Cartridges for the system can heavily reduce loading times and isn't a battery hog like an optical drive with moving parts or a laser, which Sony learned the hard way.

If thats true (and i sincerely hope it isn't), Nintendo can eat a dick!

There's just about no possible way (Unless they unearthed some UFO tech) that a handheld with games on cartridges is going to compete side by side with Sony and M$

Quellist:

There's just about no possible way (Unless they unearthed some UFO tech) that a handheld with games on cartridges is going to compete side by side with Sony and M$

It's possible depending on how they implement this. The big issue I'm seeing here is price and size, with battery being guaranteed to be a major issue.

I think they've either lost their minds or are going to win hard with this. My body is so fucking ready.

Quellist:
If thats true (and i sincerely hope it isn't), Nintendo can eat a dick!

There's just about no possible way (Unless they unearthed some UFO tech) that a handheld with games on cartridges is going to compete side by side with Sony and M$

You do know that the 3DS is selling on par with the XBone and only slightly less then the PS4, right? It's not impossible for a handheld to sell well while still competing with powerful consoles.

OT: I don't know why everyone is being negative about this idea. I'd buy it in a heart beat if it's true. Obviously it's not confirmed or denied by Nintendo yet. Either way I think this is neat.

I think the cartridges are a good idea if used to their full potential. Back in the SNES/NES days they were able to add extra chips in some games' cartridges to help improve performance, such as the Super FX chip. Other than that, I feel conflicted and depressed. Probably because I'm a Wii U die hard.

Well, given the price of SD cards these days... I guess it's possible? Going to be interesting to see what's true and if it works out or not.

Every time I read a new report about the NX I am reminded of that parable about the three blind men feeling out an elephant.

Westaway:
This sounds absurd. What are they thinking?

Quellist:
If thats true (and i sincerely hope it isn't), Nintendo can eat a dick!

There's just about no possible way (Unless they unearthed some UFO tech) that a handheld with games on cartridges is going to compete side by side with Sony and M$

Right now, the 3DS is a pretty powerful unit for it's size- the biggest hangups for the blocky look that often appears in it's 3D games is the 3D setting itself, it has to be designed to be able to double it's rendering load per frame without tanking the framerate to unacceptable levels. Which means compromises in graphical fidelity that have to be compensated for in art aesthetic.

So the idea of a console being a portable unit isn't completely crazy. Nintendo's portable systems have been incredibly successful these past cycles and their main market of focus, Japan, is ravenous for portable gaming. A problem that has been rearing it's ugly head has been the line between the capabilities of a portable system and a console being blurred compared to previous console/portable cycles, this has led to a cannibalization of the production focus between the Wii-U and the 3DS. There are a number of players that would rather play certain 3DS games on a console instead of a portable but the series has been sticking to portable releases. Also with VC becoming a stronger market driver the current division of Wii-U and 3DS has them using a different VC, wasting effort and further damaging the value proposition of VC purchases.

There are two more points to this: that Nintendo has stated that the hardware would be sold at a profit and that power may not be as big a hangup as you might think. That Nintendo would sell it's hardware at a profit is just expected of them at this point, being that was what they did with the Wii and aimed it's marketing to get it into the homes of families. Sure, they only cared about Wii-Sports but the matter that they made a profit off of console adoption is a something that provided unparalleled revenue, they are trying to have lightning strike twice. Being able to do this without major sacrifices in power is significantly easier now than it has ever been, VR has finally given a reason for a new generational jump in consumer graphical processing at consumer grade pricing. Both AMD and Nvidia have released high powered graphics cards that have changed the Price/Performance landscape of graphics cards, the 900 series level of power is now matched or beaten by budget cards. If it is that hardware that is used in the manufacturing of the next generation of consoles then we will see a massive power jump across the board.

Not that such a thing matters. Despite the marketing for the consoles themselves the power behind them isn't really that important. While high levels of graphical fidelity requires massive crunch what makes something beautiful is artistic direction and art aesthetic. There are many games with a beautiful art aesthetic while having low fidelity just as there is plenty of high fidelity games made ugly by their aesthetic due to having no real artistic direction.

But this idea of the NX being a portable/console hybrid has been a rumor that has been floating around for months now. Even with this news it's still not official and is still a rumor.

Edit: USB and SD cards would classify as cartridges, have higher data transfer rates than discs and have a higher capacity than discs. For a while CD tech was advancing faster than chip based storage but chip based storage has caught up. There is a reason why SSDs are becoming more commonplace in the PC market, chip based storage is proving itself superior to disc based storage once more.

I really wish Nintendo would just reveal the NX already. All of these reports and rumors are driving me nuts.

I thought the NX was going to be elbow mounted and made of celery.

Joking aside, this sounds like the kind of thing Nintendo would do. Really, I just want to know what the fuck this thing is.

Mr.Mattress:

Quellist:
If thats true (and i sincerely hope it isn't), Nintendo can eat a dick!

There's just about no possible way (Unless they unearthed some UFO tech) that a handheld with games on cartridges is going to compete side by side with Sony and M$

You do know that the 3DS is selling on par with the XBone and only slightly less then the PS4, right? It's not impossible for a handheld to sell well while still competing with powerful consoles.

OT: I don't know why everyone is being negative about this idea. I'd buy it in a heart beat if it's true. Obviously it's not confirmed or denied by Nintendo yet. Either way I think this is neat.

I'll tell you why i'm being so negative about this. I don't want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X-2 (or whatever it will be called) or Breath of the Wild on a fucking 6 inch screen! Even assuming it plugs into a TV i'm less than keen on playing them on substandard tech thats been optimized out the ass to make it portable.

Cartridges eh? Why not. Every time I try to picture the article's description of the console within the brain frame, a strange tickling sensation occurs which escalates to a loud, numbing buzz, then everything goes white and i wake up, crumpled on top of a poor house pet with a nose-bleed.

marioandsonic:
I really wish Nintendo would just reveal the NX already. All of these reports and rumors are driving me nuts.


Also I'm not excited by the use of cartridges as I've moved on to digital distribution.

Quellist:

I'll tell you why i'm being so negative about this. I don't want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X-2 (or whatever it will be called) or Breath of the Wild on a fucking 6 inch screen! Even assuming it plugs into a TV i'm less than keen on playing them on substandard tech thats been optimized out the ass to make it portable.

I'd imagine it's possible they're going to have the games run in a mobile and console mode and me optimized for both in terms of resolution and framerate.

I imagine the dock is going to be having its own bits and bobs to make the difference. The serious issue is pricing here.

I already have a vita.

LegendaryGamer0:

Quellist:

I'll tell you why i'm being so negative about this. I don't want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X-2 (or whatever it will be called) or Breath of the Wild on a fucking 6 inch screen! Even assuming it plugs into a TV i'm less than keen on playing them on substandard tech thats been optimized out the ass to make it portable.

I'd imagine it's possible they're going to have the games run in a mobile and console mode and me optimized for both in terms of resolution and framerate.

I imagine the dock is going to be having its own bits and bobs to make the difference. The serious issue is pricing here.

The serious issue is this is the company that brought us the Virtual Boy. When Nintendo are good they are very good but sometimes they make the worst missteps imaginable

Mr.Mattress:

You do know that the 3DS is selling on par with the XBone and only slightly less then the PS4, right? It's not impossible for a handheld to sell well while still competing with powerful consoles.

Yeah it just seems that Nintendo is looking at where they are successful and triyng to carry over elements of that to their home console. We kind of already saw this a little with the Wii U's ability to play on either the TV or the game pad. I'm not particularly interested and I don't think it's likely people will latch onto this but I can see the line of thinking that brought Nintendo there.

I like the idea of a handheld that can be plugged into a TV. Basically, it lets you take your games with you and when you get back to your house you can sit down and play the game normally as well. For games like Pokemon this sounds amazing, especially if they do something like a miniature Pokemon GO type game for getting pokemon while out and about.

Quellist:

The serious issue is this is the company that brought us the Virtual Boy. When Nintendo are good they are very good but sometimes they make the worst missteps imaginable

True but this company also brought us the Game Boy line and the successor DS line. They also brought us a grand home console lineup.

It's early but I do have some faith left in them to put magic into this idea.

I feel like it makes a lot of sense if this is indeed what they are doing. Consolidating their home and portable ecosystems means they can bring all of their development teams onto one platform instead of having them split between different two different platforms.

They can potentially avoid directly competing with their two biggest competitors. As a portable system with home console quality games it will offer experiences you just can't get on mobile while still being a portable. Meanwhile that portability will ideally make up for its "deficiencies" compared to the PS4/Xbone.

The real question will be how large an audience they can get in the overlap between people who want high quality mobile gaming and those who a cheaper(I would imagine) home console.

They need to hurry up and reveal the damn thing officially, it will help put minds at ease and maybe get people excited if they could see it and be told the features straight up.

I really don't see this going well. I don't think Nintendo even knows what they are trying to do with this machine. It seems like it is trying to be everything, instead of specializing in handheld or home console. Unless they have something truly amazing, I don't think they can pull it off.

Mr.Mattress:

Quellist:
If thats true (and i sincerely hope it isn't), Nintendo can eat a dick!

There's just about no possible way (Unless they unearthed some UFO tech) that a handheld with games on cartridges is going to compete side by side with Sony and M$

You do know that the 3DS is selling on par with the XBone and only slightly less then the PS4, right? It's not impossible for a handheld to sell well while still competing with powerful consoles.

Yeah, but the 3DS is not competing directly with those systems. The NX seems like it is trying to be both, and likely that won't succeed.

LegendaryGamer0:
A handheld that can trade blows with the PS4 and Xbone is going to need so much juice it isn't even funny and I can only think of so many things to even try and solve the issue without utterly gimping the system or making it absolutely fuckhuge.

I remember the Sega Game Gear. It was the first handheld with color. It actually was able to do some pretty impressive visuals for a handheld at the time. It took 6 AA batteries. And they lasted a whopping three hours.

Hell, Pokemon Go kills my cellphone (which can easily manage 24 hours or longer normally) in about 3-4 hours.

Whether you meant to or not, you may have pointed out what may be the thing that prevents the NX from taking off.

I see some people being overly pessimistic without actually knowing what the console is. You'd think that one would wait to actually see the console before casting judgements, rather than throwing out baseless assumptions.

People also seem to be mistaking "handheld" with "fits in the pocket". Tablets are technically handheld, but they definitely don't fit anywhere except a bag.

Would be nice to see a console close to the power of the PS4/Xbox One. But even if it isn't, I don't really see any issue in a handheld with higher specs than the 3DS. One of the worst mistakes that Nintendo could possibly make would be to try and enter direct competition with the PS4/Xbox One/PC. There's too much competition, and it's more beneficial and profitable to come up with unique selling points that cater to a separate market.

It's safe to assume that a lot of people own one of either PS4, Xbox One or PC at this point. So what are you more likely to purchase? A handheld/home hybrid with high specs, or Nintendo's version of the PS4/Xbox One?

The key hurdle for Nintendo on this console is just battery and power. I don't know how they're going to get past it, but I hope they have some new tech.

Since none of this has been confirmed by Nintendo I'm going to take this news with a grain of salt. Although thinking about it, except for the cartridges part, I'm not sure how much different that is from the Wii U.

canadamus_prime:
Since none of this has been confirmed by Nintendo I'm going to take this news with a grain of salt. Although thinking about it, except for the cartridges part, I'm not sure how much different that is from the Wii U.

Well the Wii U was a home console which merely streams the game to the small screen. But ultimately requires the controller to be in close proximity to the console.

This sounds as if the console itself is the handheld, with a peripheral that puts it on the TV.

It sounds more like the Wii U in reverse.. As if they've decided to cram all of the Wii U hardware into the controller.

Saltyk:

I remember the Sega Game Gear. It was the first handheld with color. It actually was able to do some pretty impressive visuals for a handheld at the time. It took 6 AA batteries. And they lasted a whopping three hours.

Hell, Pokemon Go kills my cellphone (which can easily manage 24 hours or longer normally) in about 3-4 hours.

Whether you meant to or not, you may have pointed out what may be the thing that prevents the NX from taking off.

Oh I've been pointing it out the entire time. I'm seriously interested in what their battery solution is and how cut down everything runs in mobile mode to possibly conserve power. They might take the shit route and expect people to carry around one of those fucking power banks just to use it for any length of time. I kind of hope it can charge through Micro-USB or Type-C actually if that's the case, or the system is dead on arrival since I doubt they'd be letting it charge any other way besides the dock. That would be THE death knell for the system right as it's unveiled.

I really hope Nintendo stops being stupid and makes something that doesn't need a bunch of proprietary crap to keep working.

This sounds unlikely to me... Not sure how you can have a console that's small enough to be portable while also being big enough to have two controllers.

Kibeth41:

canadamus_prime:
Since none of this has been confirmed by Nintendo I'm going to take this news with a grain of salt. Although thinking about it, except for the cartridges part, I'm not sure how much different that is from the Wii U.

Well the Wii U was a home console which merely streams the game to the small screen. But ultimately requires the controller to be in close proximity to the console.

This sounds as if the console itself is the handheld, with a peripheral that puts it on the TV.

It sounds more like the Wii U in reverse.. As if they've decided to cram all of the Wii U hardware into the controller.

That doesn't sound like a very good idea....

canadamus_prime:

Kibeth41:

canadamus_prime:
Since none of this has been confirmed by Nintendo I'm going to take this news with a grain of salt. Although thinking about it, except for the cartridges part, I'm not sure how much different that is from the Wii U.

Well the Wii U was a home console which merely streams the game to the small screen. But ultimately requires the controller to be in close proximity to the console.

This sounds as if the console itself is the handheld, with a peripheral that puts it on the TV.

It sounds more like the Wii U in reverse.. As if they've decided to cram all of the Wii U hardware into the controller.

That doesn't sound like a very good idea....

Well, it may be, it might not. It all depends on how they overcome the obvious hurdles. I'd assume the switch the cartridge would be to decrease load times, and to avoid disk damage from carrying a handheld. No idea how they'll manage to get around the power brick though.

But as I stated above. It'll ultimately be more profitable for them to pursue the unique selling point of creating a powerful handheld, than it would to simply create a direct competitor to the PS4/Xbox One.

People state that Nintendo should go software or handheld only. So if this console is what it sounds like. It would be exactly what they're demanding.

From what I've read I'm clearly a tiny tiny minority but this would be absolutely perfect for me. A gaming tablet with good integrated controls and nintendo first party games that can also connect to the TV for multiplayer kart. There's already over a hundred million boxes that can play COD at 1080p X 60 fps. I want something different.

Why do I feel like I'm the only one?

Jesus christ, how many times are we gonna get riled up by these bullshit "confirmed sources" about the NX and learn to wait for it to be shown off first? Nobody is learning since the last 3-4 times. Cartridges? Fuck yes. Everything else? We'll see. But we all need to wait for confirmation. All this is doing is generating fluff. Fluff to a system that has been kept quiet and firmly under wraps, and probably won't be leaked or talked about so easily. If at least one of the "reports" I've seen on this thing come true, I'll eat my words. Until then, I'm waiting for a confirmation by Nintendo

VirOath:

Edit: USB and SD cards would classify as cartridges, have higher data transfer rates than discs and have a higher capacity than discs. For a while CD tech was advancing faster than chip based storage but chip based storage has caught up. There is a reason why SSDs are becoming more commonplace in the PC market, chip based storage is proving itself superior to disc based storage once more.

not only that, but also, going to cartridge remove all the moving part inside the console. remove the cd/dvd/bluray player, remove the hard drive and replace it by ssd tech, and you get a much more power efficient console...

I`m loving the arguments going on here right now. I`m imagining something akin to a Turkish riot,and I`m sitting here on a balcony eating popcorn watching the whole thing.

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