Phil Spencer Wants to Make Original Xbox Titles Backwards Compatible

Phil Spencer Wants to Make Original Xbox Titles Backwards Compatible

Xbox One console

There could be a day where your Xbox One will be able to play every single Xbox title released since the very first Xbox.

Xbox One's backwards compatibility initiative has been a huge success - especially considering the company's staunch opposition to the practice in the early days of the console. There's currently over 100 Xbox 360 games that you can plug-and-play on your Xbox One, but Microsoft boss Phil Spencer doesn't want to stop at just one generation. In a Twitter post, he expressed interest in bringing original Xbox games into the backwards compatibility program.

"I love the backwards compatibility for 360 titles, is it ever possible we will see Original Xbox backwards compatibility?" asked a fan. "We haven't ruled it out but we aren't working on it right now. I'd like to find the time to do it." When he last spoke on the subject he said that he "asks the backwards compatibility team this question a lot". The fact that he's still actively thinking about it suggests that we may have moved from "is it possible?" to "it's possible but not a priority."

If backwards compatibility for original Xbox games were to come to the Xbox One, it would be one of the very first instances of two generation backwards compatibility for a console.

Source: Twitter

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Gameboy Advance, putting that out there, cause it can play literally every pre-DS gameboy game.

Anyways, I was hoping this was more than "Hes kind of maybe thinking about it maybe...eventually" cause major points to Xbone if I can reliably play my old Xbox games again. I still never beat Brute Force...and I can play Morrowind with a controller, OMG DO IT NOW! (occurred to me as I typed)

Well it is called the XBox "One," so it might as well live up to its name.

I wouldn't hate this, and the BC for 360 (that I largely skipped) is one of the reasons why I'm getting a Xbone before a PS4.

I still have several Xbox-only games that I'd love to play again on TV.
My OG Xbox is dead, years of abuses before I ever got it finally did it in.
-A friend of mine who owned it shot it one time while he was drunk, fucker still ran fine a decade after the fact. XD

I expect they'll someday announce every Original Xbox Game will work on Xbox One, except for Steel Battalion (Line of Contact).

Remember when they said backwards compatibility was backwards?

I won't be convinced they know why they were wrong until they're offering original xbox games for free. Or atleast a good number for download. Kingdom under Fire. Give me Kingdom under Fire. The two good ones. Or Crimson Skies. Maybe Mech Assault. Then I'll consider buying.

Anti-American Eagle:
Remember when they said backwards compatibility was backwards?

I won't be convinced they know why they were wrong until they're offering original xbox games for free. Or atleast a good number for download. Kingdom under Fire. Give me Kingdom under Fire. The two good ones. Or Crimson Skies. Maybe Mech Assault. Then I'll consider buying.

I think they should make ALL the games backwards compatible. I want to maintain my library across systems, INCLUDING Circle of Doom >.>

As a semi-fanboy of Sony, that's a good move for Microsoft. I think one of the biggest disappointments of this new console generation was the lack of backwards compatibility. I mean, I know why from a hardware standpoint they didn't, but it still would have been nice. However, I'm actually waiting for the PlayStation 5 and the Xbox Whateverthehell, because there's pretty good odds both of them will be backwards compatible with the PS4/Xbone. I might be skipping this generation as I still have a ton of PS3 games in my backlog and by then I'll hopefully be able to get all the PS4 games (or a PS4 Pro if 5 isn't backwards compatible) for a song.

Steven Bogos:
Phil Spencer Wants to Make Original Xbox Titles Backwards Compatible

Wait... What?

Did you mean to say they're making the >xBone< backwards compatible so that the >xBone< can run xBox games?

Because, what would they be making the >xBox games< backwards compatible to? Windows NT?

It'd certainly be nice. Not too sure that I'd get all that much use out of it personally, though. I've been very happy with the backwards compatibility with the Xbox One, as I can already play every Halo game ever released, all of the Gears of War games, Red Dead Redemption, and im pretty sure that both Fable 2 and 3 are there, too. So i've already phased out my aging 360.

XBox One should have enough power to simply emulate XBox original virtually. All they have to do is write a one emulator to rule them all and either give it out for free or sell as a library item, then one just plugs XBox CD into XBox One, emulator cathes it and auto-launches to play the game. IMHO.

On a pedantic note all Playstation 3s can play Playstation 1 games from the disc, so Sony beat them to it a decade ago. Of Sony also ballsed it up many years ago too when they removed PS2 compatibility from the slim PS3, making a box that could play every Playstation games ever inexplicably able to play PS1 and 3 but not 2 games.

It's very strange to think that the $599 fat PS3 was the ultimate cross compatible console and we never even realised it.

Anti-American Eagle:
Remember when they said backwards compatibility was backwards?

Yup, then they fired the guy who said it and he got fired by Zynga (frickin' Zynga) two years later.

Well, lets hope Ninja Gaiden Black and Timesplitters get the treatment, I have NGB on Xbox 360 but it would be cool to have it on One

If they made every title backwards compatible, I just might buy the console. Too bad the backwards compatibility doesn't include Lost Odyssey or Bayonetta.

The funny thing is that the XBone is the same architecture as the Xbox, so it wouldn't even need different hardware. It could legit run Xbox discs natively with just the software to support it.

Didn't this happen over a year ago? I swear I remember Phil Spencer making this statement (or something similar) ages ago.

OT: Meh, the Original Xbox wasn't exactly a haven of all the best titles from the sixth gen. Nice for some, I suppose.

Despite not caring for actually playing older games, it's - ideally - the right thing for the industry to do, i.e. archive its own history and evolution. Gaming is, obviously, more 'of the moment' than any other medium, but its story still needs to be told, and a part of that is allowing people to experience the medium's history.

Personally, I'd prefer far greater support for the 360 era because there's a lot I missed out on. But the Xbox era? I suppose I wouldn't mind playing 'cult shooter' Black again, and, erm, maybe Doom 3? And maybe about an hour of Lost Odyssey before its sprawling runtime and soap-opera pomposity annoys me? Other stuff like KotOR, Morrowind, and Jade Empire exist on PC with much better versions, so if I ever wanted to replay those I wouldn't need any form of Xbox BC.

YES!!!! MechAssault anyone?!

As much as I would like this, it seems like it would be odd if only because the 360 can't play every original Xbox game...unless there's an update I missed out on but the last time I tried (and this was about a month ago) my 360 couldn't play Whacked!, Otogi 1 or 2, Voodoo Vince...well really it was just those two, I was surprised when it read Silent Hill 2 and 4, Amped, the Halo games. I love the original Xbox but I'm not going to get an Xbone to play those games. I'm going to try finding an Xbox that still works or find someone who can fix mine.

Does Stubbs the Zombie work on the 360 by the way? Not that I can afford it at the moment but it's one of those hidden gems that I always hear good things about.

YES! And while you're at it, please fix the constant crashes Mercenaries has when you're trying to play it on the 360. And make Timesplitters: Future Perfect backwards compatible too.

Anti-American Eagle:
I won't be convinced they know why they were wrong until they're offering original xbox games for free.

Microsoft has zero control over that. The right to do that belongs to the publishers and developers.

Phil Spencer knows what he's doing, but for some reason, the Xbox One still has some latent problems, such as not supporting any LAN play, not making the console a devkit for everyone, making all publishers release their game first on Xbox One, and Halo 5.

Shoggoth2588:
As much as I would like this, it seems like it would be odd if only because the 360 can't play every original Xbox game...unless there's an update I missed out on but the last time I tried (and this was about a month ago) my 360 couldn't play Whacked!, Otogi 1 or 2, Voodoo Vince...well really it was just those two, I was surprised when it read Silent Hill 2 and 4, Amped, the Halo games. I love the original Xbox but I'm not going to get an Xbone to play those games. I'm going to try finding an Xbox that still works or find someone who can fix mine.

Does Stubbs the Zombie work on the 360 by the way? Not that I can afford it at the moment but it's one of those hidden gems that I always hear good things about.

The 360 can play Original Xbox games but not all of them, most of the popular ones were backwards compatible (Morrowind, Starwars Battlefront one and 2, Knights of the old republic 1 and 2, and the original Halo and it's sequel) but i believe this was over a period of updating the menu, by the time the 360 had hit it's 5 year mark it could play a hell of a lot of Xbox games.

008Zulu:
If they made every title backwards compatible, I just might buy the console. Too bad the backwards compatibility doesn't include Lost Odyssey or Bayonetta.

Both of those were added last month.

There are more, or at least more important, titles from the 360 that I'm still waiting on.
Especially the XBLA Sega ports, like Guardian Heroes, Bangai-O and Radiant Silvergun.

fix-the-spade:
On a pedantic note all Playstation 3s can play Playstation 1 games from the disc, so Sony beat them to it a decade ago. Of Sony also ballsed it up many years ago too when they removed PS2 compatibility from the slim PS3, making a box that could play every Playstation games ever inexplicably able to play PS1 and 3 but not 2 games.

It's very strange to think that the $599 fat PS3 was the ultimate cross compatible console and we never even realised it.

That's because the PS3's BC is utter crap. Granted, it's not as bad as the 360's, but it is still enough of a problem that any game needing a consistent frame rate becomes terrible, or even unplayable, after a certain point. And, this is true for all PS1 and PS2 games being played on the PS3 (Even the PSN downloads).

Edit: Reading up a bit more on it, and here's the order of PS1 BC from best to worst:

    PS2 > PSP > Vita > VitaTV > PS3

I'd definitely pick up an xbone if I could play all of my old classics but the trouble is that Phil's always saying but never doing. When it's announced that BC is a feature, then I'll buy into it.

Rico:

Both of those were added last month.

Nice. Now I just have to wait for the Internet in my area to be upgraded.

Shoggoth2588:
As much as I would like this, it seems like it would be odd if only because the 360 can't play every original Xbox game...unless there's an update I missed out on but the last time I tried (and this was about a month ago) my 360 couldn't play Whacked!, Otogi 1 or 2, Voodoo Vince...well really it was just those two, I was surprised when it read Silent Hill 2 and 4, Amped, the Halo games. I love the original Xbox but I'm not going to get an Xbone to play those games. I'm going to try finding an Xbox that still works or find someone who can fix mine.

Does Stubbs the Zombie work on the 360 by the way? Not that I can afford it at the moment but it's one of those hidden gems that I always hear good things about.

Big shout for Stubbs the Zombie!!
I haven't had a console for years, PC gaming for me, but Stubbs the Zombie is one of the games I would love to play again.

fix-the-spade:
On a pedantic note all Playstation 3s can play Playstation 1 games from the disc, so Sony beat them to it a decade ago. Of Sony also ballsed it up many years ago too when they removed PS2 compatibility from the slim PS3, making a box that could play every Playstation games ever inexplicably able to play PS1 and 3 but not 2 games.

It's very strange to think that the $599 fat PS3 was the ultimate cross compatible console and we never even realised it.

From what I've been told, the PS2 backwards compatibility was removed because it had a tendency to wear out the disc drive's laser at an inordinately fast rate. Still a shame they chose to remove it rather than fix it, of course.

Xorph:
From what I've been told, the PS2 backwards compatibility was removed because it had a tendency to wear out the disc drive's laser at an inordinately fast rate. Still a shame they chose to remove it rather than fix it, of course.

The reason was to cut costs, the very early PS3's had an entire PS2 chipset in them, which gave it seamless compatibility with PS2 and 1 but was obviously an expensive way to make a console.

That was cut within months of the launch for an emulator based set up which was altogether less effective. The issue with disc drives is an off and on thing for Sony that goes back to the PS1. I've heard all kinds of bizarre explanations like running DVD movies in the PS2 or Blu Rays in the PS3 would 'age' the laser and make it fail. It's more likely that as the biggest moving part in a console it's the most likely to develop a fault, 360s and Xbones are prone to developing drive faults as well after all.

Putting Phill Spencer in charge of the Xbox One is probably the best decision they made. I've still got a few OG Xbox games lying about. And selling them digitally would be cool. I still havn't gotten a Xbox One or PS4 yet but I am leaning once again towards Xbox.

008Zulu:

Rico:

Both of those were added last month.

Nice. Now I just have to wait for the Internet in my area to be upgraded.

It works with the cd, just saying since you were uninformed about the two games being available maybe you are uninformed that it isnt just for digitally purchased games.

josemlopes:

It works with the cd, just saying since you were uninformed about the two games being available maybe you are uninformed that it isnt just for digitally purchased games.

I don't read that much on consoles since I am a PC gamer, and the physical media isn't the issue. The issue will be having to download a multi-gigabyte hardware update as soon as I turn the thing on.

Oh man if this actually works, Sony is so fucking screwed. They've already been outsold by Microsoft for the past three months:http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/14/13283118/xbox-one-ps4-npd-sales-figures-july-august-september-2016

darkrage6:
Oh man if this actually works, Sony is so fucking screwed. They've already been outsold by Microsoft for the past three months:http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/14/13283118/xbox-one-ps4-npd-sales-figures-july-august-september-2016

That's in the US alone. Globally, PS4 is still dominating but I don't know for how long. The S plays 4K discs, has better wireless adapter on 5 Ghz while PS4 on 2.4 Ghz, you can keep your internal disc and add an external (I put on another 3 TB) longer battery life for good easily replaceable rechargable batteries than PS4 controller. All good reasons to prefer the Xbox one to the PS4.

The BC all the way to 2002 games would be fun and likely easy to do. The idea will be a seller for people who still have og xbox games. I have some polished versions of games from then (Halo 1 and 2) and they play as well as any modern shooter to me. Many other games from that era I can and do play on PC (Like Old Republic). But in these days of ever changing gaming models (cell phones, facebook apps, Steam) and ever more polished games, I can't write I think this will be that big a deal. I'll spend much more time on Forza Horizon 3 tonight than I'd spend on the og Forza bc. I might load that up for the fun of compare contrast but that's about it.

 

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