More Ghostbusters Films on the Way

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As long as they learn from their mistakes maybe I can try to be optimistic... still think the new movie would have worked better as a distant sequel rather than an all-out reboot, maybe they could go that route... Oh, and maybe a more gender-varied cast with not too much marketing whining about that might help.

as long they get a good writer it will be fine, hell how you can ruin a comedy with Kristen Wiig and Leslie Jones.

Frostbyte666:

That last point anyone else get annoyed when films/tv shows try to show off girl power and just make the men a bunch of retarded morons (not to say the inverse isn't true either), I find it's comparable to people who think the only way to make themselves look good is to put down others.

It's true that women in movies and TV shows of the past were often just the damsels in distress, but far more often than not they were damn good at the jobs they were doing, to the point that the hero couldn't have done what he did without them.

These days with the kick ass female, the male sidekick is an inconvenience, someone to get in the way and hinder the actions of the heroine though their incompetence.

Unlike the hero and his female sidekick, the heroines of today succeed despite the actions of their male partners not because of them.

The first two episodes of Supergirl this season were one of the few shows to get it right. It never stopped being Supergirl's show but they didn't need to make Superman any less of a hero in order to do it.

RJ 17:

ArcaneGamer:

RJ 17:
Please...just stop.

The first movie was lightning in a bottle, it's never going to happen again. The 2nd movie proved this point, and it had everyone from the first movie in it. The third movie should have served as reconfirmation: the world does not need more Ghostbusters movies...

Never read any of the IDW comics, have ya, lad? Also, maybe it doesn't but there IS potential for it to be something interesting. The reboot isn't what most of us wanted, so...why not take that and make something with it? Draw inspiration from what supernatural things are popular nowadays. Take inspiration from the Paranormal Activity movies, take a look at Creepy Pasta, they have at a few scary creatures. While we're at it, why not show the reaction of other faiths at the discovery that spirits exist? THAT'S something different. This can work, it just...needs...a little...effort.

Firstly: please refrain from editing my posts to contain factual inaccuracies.

Secondly: if you want to keep enjoying your comic book spin-off of Ghostbusters then have at. My comment was made regarding movies...not comics. :^)

Thirdly: if you're placing your hope on Hollywood putting effort into a reboot/remake/rehash then your hope is misplaced. This movie was made to cash in on nostalgia, not effort.

First: Haven't gotten a warning, but since you asked so nicely, I will not.

Secondly: "Closest thing you're going to get to a good Ghostbusters Sequel." I will, thank you. =D At least I will not be screaming for things gone wrong.

Third: Oh, ye of little faith. =) I'm going to quote the person above me: "You forgot that this is America. Only we could do cartoon adaptions of PG/PG-13/R-Rated movies or comics meant for adults. Rambo, Robocop, Toxic Avenger, Ace Ventura, and TMNT: all of them got adaptions. Now those adaptions had varying degrees of success. The Ninja Turtles have 3 TV adaptions and 6 movies. These movies became popular with kids, so of course it would "work"!

Remember when The Mask was supposed to have a movie franchise? We got a sequel that was a decade late and sucked so much that it screwed itself out of existence. The cartoon was better than that and lasted for 50+ episodes. Ace Ventura, similar scenario. Two good movies with another sequel a decade later having nothing to do with the title character and made for a quick buck. The cartoon adaption surpassed the very late sequel. It wast the same with Ghostbusters too (Noticing a pattern?). Though the Real and Extreme Ghostbusters are miles high better than what the new movie turned out. And better female characters too." In summation, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, man. Of course it could work, anything could work, it just depends on the writer.

ArcaneGamer:
Remember when The Mask was supposed to have a movie franchise? We got a sequel that was a decade late and sucked so much that it screwed itself out of existence. The cartoon was better than that and lasted for 50+ episodes. Ace Ventura, similar scenario. Two good movies with another sequel a decade later having nothing to do with the title character and made for a quick buck. The cartoon adaption surpassed the very late sequel. It wast the same with Ghostbusters too (Noticing a pattern?). Though the Real and Extreme Ghostbusters are miles high better than what the new movie turned out. And better female characters too." In summation, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, man. Of course it could work, anything could work, it just depends on the writer.

My friend, you just kinda proved my point.

As I said: I'm talking about movies. If you want comic books and cartoons based off the franchise then hey: I've got no problem with that. But this article - and my comments - have always been about additional movies, not comics and cartoons. :^)

Drop Feig, fire the executive producer who was in charge of the first reboot/sequel/unfunny pile, and kick the director. Only shot of getting an even half decent film is to slash away the horribleness that killed the last one. Feig's attempt to make safe humor resorted in the worst unfunny jokes you could come up with, and his attitude towards men and fans of the original being openly hostile and blatantly dishonest only pissed people off at what a pile of shit he was being in trying to blame racism for his film looking like ass. The push for social justice narrative and the complete deflection of what a terrible piece of shit it looked like in that first trailer by use of that only made people hate the pricks in charge of PR. And the editing of the film was utterly terrible, cuts too quick to let jokes even have a chance to work, terribly unconvincing CGI and actor interaction, and an almost overall feeling of mugging in the character's directing. Just a bad movie slapped a thin coat of ghostbuster's paint on it and cashgrabbed, to horrible results. Drop the political message that was being forcefeed, drop the jackasses that thought it was a good idea to do that, and drop the incompetence in directing and editing.

After exorcising that trash, they should look towards the successful animated series and use that as a starting point. People don't want a remake of the original (dear gods, that was why people hated the idea from the start, because it was an obvious cashgrab remake hiding behind a "progressive" new cast to attack critics of it being a soulless cashgrab) but they do like auxiliary and continuations of the idea. Have the original ghostbusters in the first 2 movies become a franchise like chuckechees after the events of the second, including the eventual decline and closing of shop after the years. The new team could be per-established workers for it who stumble their way into reviving their franchise, or something like that. There is a lot you can do with a set up like such that could be funny and relate-able to people who loved the working class nature of the first movie. You can have women, you can have black people, you can have muslims. You can have as diverse a cast and actually have people like the film as long as it isn't used like a carnival barker trying to call attention to the latest freakshow and crying racist or sexist if people don't like it. Make jokes about religious differences in opinion about ghosts. Make jokes about a black character walking around with a portable nuclear generator on his back. Make jokes about women. But make them funny.

Just make funny damn jokes and don't worry about not offending people. The safest jokes in the world offended more people than a joke in poor taste ever could when it was coupled with the attitude Feig had, and it wasn't funny to boot.

RJ 17:

ArcaneGamer:
Remember when The Mask was supposed to have a movie franchise? We got a sequel that was a decade late and sucked so much that it screwed itself out of existence. The cartoon was better than that and lasted for 50+ episodes. Ace Ventura, similar scenario. Two good movies with another sequel a decade later having nothing to do with the title character and made for a quick buck. The cartoon adaption surpassed the very late sequel. It wast the same with Ghostbusters too (Noticing a pattern?). Though the Real and Extreme Ghostbusters are miles high better than what the new movie turned out. And better female characters too." In summation, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, man. Of course it could work, anything could work, it just depends on the writer.

My friend, you just kinda proved my point.

As I said: I'm talking about movies. If you want comic books and cartoons based off the franchise then hey: I've got no problem with that. But this article - and my comments - have always been about additional movies, not comics and cartoons. :^)

For the record RJ17, I said this part:

Remember when The Mask was supposed to have a movie franchise? We got a sequel that was a decade late and sucked so much that it screwed itself out of existence. The cartoon was better than that and lasted for 50+ episodes. Ace Ventura, similar scenario. Two good movies with another sequel a decade later having nothing to do with the title character and made for a quick buck. The cartoon adaption surpassed the very late sequel. It wast the same with Ghostbusters too (Noticing a pattern?). Though the Real and Extreme Ghostbusters are miles high better than what the new movie turned out. And better female characters too.

Not Arcane Gamer, though I thank him for quoting me.

Yeah, if Sony didn't lose money on the movie, then their Investors certainly did: good luck convincing anyone to fork over the cash for a direct sequel to this movie when you can't point to an actual profit.

I think the biggest problem they had with this one (besides it not being very funny), was that, when the original trailer dropped, and was met... less than positively, the PR people decided that the best solution was to get into a pissing match with the internet. What would make anyone think that was a good idea?

They'll probably have to reboot the franchise again if they want to salvage it.

I wish the things I liked that didn't make any money got sequels regardless.

CoCage:

RJ 17:

ArcaneGamer:
Remember when The Mask was supposed to have a movie franchise? We got a sequel that was a decade late and sucked so much that it screwed itself out of existence. The cartoon was better than that and lasted for 50+ episodes. Ace Ventura, similar scenario. Two good movies with another sequel a decade later having nothing to do with the title character and made for a quick buck. The cartoon adaption surpassed the very late sequel. It wast the same with Ghostbusters too (Noticing a pattern?). Though the Real and Extreme Ghostbusters are miles high better than what the new movie turned out. And better female characters too." In summation, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, man. Of course it could work, anything could work, it just depends on the writer.

My friend, you just kinda proved my point.

As I said: I'm talking about movies. If you want comic books and cartoons based off the franchise then hey: I've got no problem with that. But this article - and my comments - have always been about additional movies, not comics and cartoons. :^)

For the record RJ17, I said this part:

Remember when The Mask was supposed to have a movie franchise? We got a sequel that was a decade late and sucked so much that it screwed itself out of existence. The cartoon was better than that and lasted for 50+ episodes. Ace Ventura, similar scenario. Two good movies with another sequel a decade later having nothing to do with the title character and made for a quick buck. The cartoon adaption surpassed the very late sequel. It wast the same with Ghostbusters too (Noticing a pattern?). Though the Real and Extreme Ghostbusters are miles high better than what the new movie turned out. And better female characters too.

Not Arcane Gamer, though I thank him for quoting me.

You are quite welcome, man. =D

I've been a fan of GBs (hench my name here) for 31 years since i was 3 since the 85 re-issue was one of the first movies i saw in theaters and watched/taped the animated show religiously as a kid on ABC/syndicated TV and had the toys plus shirts, merchandise, drink the ecto-cooler, ate the cereal and saw GB 2 in theaters on my 7th birthday on opening day. I gotta say the remake was unnecessary and an insult to the franchise that doesn't honor or respect it but actually disrespects the franchise.

i am very thankful the new film flopped at the box-office and how it killed the franchise and sometimes it's better to kill something then let it suffer. Ghostbusters by now is like a wounded half dead animal and has been for the last 25 years since the show ended and nothing else good has came out in the last 25 years with the exception of the 2009 video game and the merchandise and comics by IDW, no movies since then and other games during the years have sucked and Extreme GBs was ok show and this remake flopped at the box-office.

You just can't recapture the same lightning in a bottle like the original as the original focused on a brilliant mature intelligent script and reminded how well crafted it is - it functions as a supernatural fantasy comedy adventure with horror trimmings, but tops the cake with a cast of talented comedy actors who are given just enough space to subtly dick around without undermining the world of the story. The world looks realistic and has an edge to it in the original as the original is what i call great filmmaking.
The new version sledgehammers some viewers with painfully forced juvenile Sandler (modern Sandler mind you)-esque humor, There's none of the restraint that allows space for wit, a poorly written unfunny script, poor pacing and the world seems utterly artificial plus no passion but money grab is what it is. The Peter-Dana love story that had a tenderness and made things personal when she gets possessed is replaced with a screaming black woman yelling pop-culture references while beating her friend about the face plus none of the edge of the original movie and a lame villain who lacks the menace of Gozer and Viggo. It's closer to The Real Ghostbusters 80's early 90s cartoon (though not as good or well written like that show). This whole thing seems to perfectly showcase what 80's and 90's comedy did right, and what some modern comedy is doing wrong. Not to mention shooting the logo in the dick as a bad guy which is an insult to the franchise and there is no passion in this remake and just a cash-grab made by Sony and well i enjoyed a few of Feig's movies, i felt he was the wrong guy for this project and even he didn't want to do it at first but he had to for the paycheck and he felt out of his comfort zone as R-rated films is what he is good at and not big budget PG-13 films as after this flopped, he should go back to original stuff.

Hollywood needs to focus on making good films and focus on the new franchises like Jack Reacher, Bourne, John Wick, Marvel Studios etc. not digging up some old favorites and desperately mangling the corpses into some focus-group approved poorly written abortion. Ghostbusters is best left alone. If Ramis was still with us then a third film might have been worthwhile, but they should have made it years ago, and now that he's gone so has Ghostbusters. A TV series about ghost-busters could work, but it shouldn't use the name of this series. Stealing the names of beloved properties just encourages creative laziness, studios need to rediscover the creative spirit that birthed great films/series, not keep recycling past glories.

I hope some people here will understand what i am saying as the world has moved on and some franchises need to be dead and left alone only for the memory of the original to be seen/loved/watched by everyone for years to come on what quality filmmaking is all about and that i am right with my truth about why some series should be left alone as some would and not to recycle some past glories as we moved on and need some fresh new things for current film.

Sometimes dead is better like Jud Crandall says and this series died with Harold.

Sony must not be in a very happy place financially.

Agree but they need to do new franchises and they got Equalizer as a new franchise that is successful.

Do you agree with everything i said even how this franchise is like a wounded half-dead animal by now for the last 25 years since real GB ended and there are a few good things and nothing else good has come since then and should be left alone and it died with Harold Ramis?

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