Kojima On Nintendo Switch: "It's The Gamer's Dream"

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Kojima On Nintendo Switch: "It's The Gamer's Dream"

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Legendary game developer Hideo Kojima says that the Switch's hybrid nature is the precursor to true cloud gaming.

At RTX Sydney this weekend, legendary video game developer Hideo Kojima spoke to IGN about his thoughts on the Nintendo Switch. The good news is that the Metal Gear Solid developer had nothing but praise for Nintendo's new machine, saying that "the fact you can play something at home and take it outside," is the "gamer's dream".

He is particularly a fan of the console's hybrid nature. The system combines at-home and on-the-go elements, which is not unlike Kojima's own "Transfarring" concept for moving data between PlayStation Vita and PlayStation 3. "I believe [Switch] is an extension of that idea," he said. "The fact you can play something at home and take it outside, this is the gamer's dream. The Switch is an evolution of that."

Kojima added that he thinks cloud technology will eventually be the future of gaming, though he admits that the technology isn't quite there yet. "It's further behind right now than I think where people thought it would be at this point, but I think it will go there, and when the infrastructure is ready, you'll be able to play everything, on every device, anywhere. The Switch is the predecessor to this step."

Kojima is currently working on PS4 exclusive Death Stranding. Despite his praise for the Switch, he neglected to comment on whether his studio, Kojima Productions, would be developing any titles for the system.

Source: IGN

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So how many games will you be developing for the Gamers Dream Kojima?

Seems to be a reoccurring theme for Nintendo systems; developers praise them and then develop maybe a game for it before abandoning it forever. I suppose Kojima can break that cycle but talk is cheap.

"It's the gamer's dream!"
"Will you be developing games for it?"
"Fuck no"

I went to a pre-launch event and tried the Switch yesterday. It was fun, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it the gamer's dream.

A dream platform must have good Backwards Compatibility, Modding, Emulation. It should have competing storefronts, be capable of other things than just game and not be expensive, long term.

No console fulfills all of these. Especially not the Switch. It is not my dream.

Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

Karadalis:
Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

I actually think it will be more successfull than the WiiU
The WiiU did so poorly it isn't much of a challenge?

On Topic:
I doubt many will agree with what he is saying. I understand the part about being able to play any game anywhere, but "a gamers dream" would pretty much require the thing to be able to do everything gaming related... and maybe a little more.

Guffe:

I doubt many will agree with what he is saying. I understand the part about being able to play any game anywhere, but "a gamers dream" would pretty much require the thing to be able to do everything gaming related... and maybe a little more.

Yeah, and that little more would probably not be shown at a family friendly Expo.

maybe the AEE ;)

Anyways, on topic, like others have said, it maybe the gamer's dream, but hardware doesn't matter, the software is where it will all come down to, all the meat of the system is there, and if there's no good games on it, then there's no good reason to buy it.

Cloud gaming isn't my idea of a gaming dream. I want games to be able to fully function offline. With the obvious exception of online multiplayer of course.

Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

Well, I wholeheartedly agree with him on it being, in theory, the gamer's dream. The idea is fantastic.

The problem is the execution. There is so many small and big things that Nintendo decided to do wrong that it killed the insane amount of hype I had.

MonsterCrit:
Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

I respectfully disagree. There are plenty of times as an adult that I would play games. Lunch break at work, waiting room in the doctor's office, waiting for my flight at an airport, riding said flight, in between obligations (In my own personal case, in the time between my college classes and my work shift.)

Having access to games on the go is a nice thing to have. Plenty of people play games on the go as is. Smart phones and tablets are widely used for this, not to mention the noteworthy success of both the DS and 3DS.

Kojima's big dreams cannot run on such small hardware.

Adam Jensen:
Cloud gaming isn't my idea of a gaming dream. I want games to be able to fully function offline. With the obvious exception of online multiplayer of course.

This. So much this. I don't understand why the industry seems to think that cloud gaming is not only desirable but inevitable. Firstly, unless they start putting data centres serving these games in every major population centre we'll never get the lag down to acceptable levels for the majority of subscribers. Secondly, it means the publisher has total control over what we can and can't do and we'll have to keep paying a sub........

wait. I see why they want it so bad now.

In principle, if they can get it to work well I have no problem with Cloud Gaming as an option, but being the only option would be, in my opinion, a consumer nightmare not a gamer dream.

Karadalis:
Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

The fact that you can not find a Switch to prepurchase now and it's been that way for weeks pretty much shows a lot more success than the Wii U. Where it did have a lot of people just wondering why does the Wii need this tablet thing.

nickpy:

Adam Jensen:
Cloud gaming isn't my idea of a gaming dream. I want games to be able to fully function offline. With the obvious exception of online multiplayer of course.

This. So much this. I don't understand why the industry seems to think that cloud gaming is not only desirable but inevitable.

Because it's tehir holy grail. An environment where you the consumer have nothing to keep in exchange for the purchase. An environment where they control what and how you play the games.

ObsidianJones:

Karadalis:
Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

The fact that you can not find a Switch to prepurchase now and it's been that way for weeks pretty much shows a lot more success than the Wii U.

That's more of a glass half full, half empty situation.
Either the Switch is so popular that it's already sold out or the supply is so meager that it's already sold out.

Cloud gaming won't be viable until internet speeds are universally decent in all parts of the bigger gaming markets.

That and data plans exist.

I suppose Switch would be a gamer's dream as long as the gamer lives alone or is the only gamer in the family. In that case - yes, I can see them crashing on a couch to play some Zelda or Splatoon and then taking the console out of its docking station to, I dunno, play some more on the way to school or work?
But what if you have a family and you are not the only gamer? You take the Switch outside and your spouse or children or parents get to wait till you come home? I dread to think what my wife would do to me if I did that and deprived her of her Splatoon fix. And it's not like you can easily afford a Switch for each playing family member, like you could with 3DS or Vita - not for the price of a fully-fledged home console. So it will have to stay at home all the time and become little more than just an overpriced underpowered home console with useless portability feature you probably don't want but have to pay for.

Not really my dream.

So a "gamer's dream" is a form of distribution that requires a constant internet connection, is totally reliant on companies keeping the games you want available, is by definition tracking everything you do and play (and, given the amount of data required to stream a game worth playing, tracking where you are), and... oh, wait, I get it. This is just a translation error; they meant to say "gamer's nightmare".

MonsterCrit:
Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

Whenever I leave the house, I'm now stuck riding the bus for several hours a day, usually just to do something that takes less than an hour to do when I get there. The Switch is the perfect thing to have with me for these long rides.

Fulbert:
I suppose Switch would be a gamer's dream as long as the gamer lives alone or is the only gamer in the family. In that case - yes, I can see them crashing on a couch to play some Zelda or Splatoon and then taking the console out of its docking station to, I dunno, play some more on the way to school or work?
But what if you have a family and you are not the only gamer? You take the Switch outside and your spouse or children or parents get to wait till you come home?

How is that any different from any other system in that respect?

I dread to think what my wife would do to me if I did that and deprived her of her Splatoon fix.

Oh yeah, you're the guy with the wife who uses Discord for communication for Splatoon! Congrats on the great catch.

And it's not like you can easily afford a Switch for each playing family member, like you could with 3DS or Vita

You can't really afford it with either of those either. A brand new 3DS or Vita will set you back $200 alone, not including an SD card for the 3DS(or a goddamn charger for it, for fucks sake Nintendo) or those ungodly overpriced proprietary cards for the Vita. which will cost you half the system if you want to have 64GB. This is also before any games.

- not for the price of a fully-fledged home console.

$300 before MicroSD and games. Not a substantial increase, considering what you're actually getting. For something that powerful and can be taken with you on the fly at any moment? That's pretty worth it in my opinion, especially with kids that will be wanting to keep playing as you're trying to get them to go somewhere.

So it will have to stay at home all the time and become little more than just an overpriced underpowered home console with useless portability feature you probably don't want but have to pay for.

Again man, for kids, it's great. For adults that need a filler for long bouts of transportation, it's great. It's a great idea with some flaws in its execution, but it's still a great idea that I really hope takes off.

Adam Jensen:
Cloud gaming isn't my idea of a gaming dream. I want games to be able to fully function offline. With the obvious exception of online multiplayer of course.

Bit of Devil's Advocate here but, if there could ever be a proper solution to different hardware and operating systems, I imagine it could be like how we can stream music, but also download for offline usage. Not ever going to happen but still.

Karadalis:
Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

What, 13 million units? Sorry bud but in order to sell worse than the Wii U, the Switch would have to ship with a man who punches you in the face every time you try to use it.

OT: It's great idea IMO, but "gamer's dream"? I'm pretty sure it would have to have the following to be a gamer's dream:
-Free online
-Backwards compatibility
-Decent VC selection
-A normal controller (that doesn't cost $100)
-A Pascal GPU

Rangaman:

OT: It's great idea IMO, but "gamer's dream"? I'm pretty sure it would have to have the following to be a gamer's dream

-A normal controller (that doesn't cost $100)

There is a normal controller, it costs 70...
Sorry...
I'll show myself out!

BiH-Kira:

The problem is the execution. There is so many small and big things that Nintendo decided to do wrong that it killed the insane amount of hype I had.

Could you elaborate a bit, please??
I am sort of trying to convince myself not to buy it immediately :P

Mainly because I am having the opposite problem, I was curious but very careful at first, now the more I read about it from PAX and such I just want it more and more :/
The thing is I would use it mainly as a handheld, I play mainly on my WiiU on the tablet while my GF watches TV, so for me it would be a huge upgrade on the DS AND WiiU combined, being able to play AAA-titles on the go while still not taking away the TV from my GF, so both can do their thing.

the fact you can play something at home and take it outside,

But you could already do that with handhelds.

Guffe:

There is a normal controller, it costs 70...
Sorry...
I'll show myself out!

https://ebgames.com.au/nintendo-switch-217630-Nintendo-Switch-Pro-Controller-Switch

Indeed, the door is over there.

Randomosity:

MonsterCrit:
Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

I respectfully disagree. There are plenty of times as an adult that I would play games. Lunch break at work, waiting room in the doctor's office, waiting for my flight at an airport, riding said flight, in between obligations (In my own personal case, in the time between my college classes and my work shift.)

Having access to games on the go is a nice thing to have. Plenty of people play games on the go as is. Smart phones and tablets are widely used for this, not to mention the noteworthy success of both the DS and 3DS.

So you are saying its a students dream then?

The only advantage I see is that I could play Zelda on the toilet. When Im out I am driving to or from where I am going and when I am there I am doing what I went to do.

Ive not been to the doctors waiting room for myself in at least 2 years, when I have been there it has been with my son or wife (same with the airport) so I would be ignoring them if I was playing switch.

This is definately not a console for grownups.

Rangaman:

Guffe:

There is a normal controller, it costs 70...
Sorry...
I'll show myself out!

https://ebgames.com.au/nintendo-switch-217630-Nintendo-Switch-Pro-Controller-Switch

Indeed, the door is over there.

But... but...
Their official site sais $69,95
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/buy-now/

Doesn't really matter though, that's a lot for a controller either way!

LegendaryGamer0:

And it's not like you can easily afford a Switch for each playing family member, like you could with 3DS or Vita

You can't really afford it with either of those either. A brand new 3DS or Vita will set you back $200 alone, not including an SD card for the 3DS(or a goddamn charger for it, for fucks sake Nintendo) or those ungodly overpriced proprietary cards for the Vita. which will cost you half the system if you want to have 64GB. This is also before any games.

idk about the USA and dollars, but here in the UK a 2DS costs ?80 brand new, less used. It is quite conceivable to get one of these per family member.

"It's further behind right now than I think where people thought it would be at this point, but I think it will go there, and when the infrastructure is ready"

The infrastructure will never be 'ready', because there will always outtages; server problems, Internet hardware problems, hacks, DDoSes,LAG, bandwith caps...

Remember the launch of Diablo 3? Sim City? WoW expansions? The holiday weekend PSN outtage? The PSN creditcard info theft?

His system is truly ALWAYS ON, because your GPU/CPU is now not even in your own device anymore!!!

nickpy:

idk about the USA and dollars, but here in the UK a 2DS costs ?80 brand new, less used. It is quite conceivable to get one of these per family member.

Sure, but there are newer 3DS games that run poorly on them and I'd feel like a jackass doing that to family. It is a good alternative however for extremely budget-minded people.

I'm thinking of cancelling my preorder tbh. I want one but the money might be more useful right now as tax season approaches. I've also heard the joy cons are awful and there's no way i'll have another 100 CAD for a pro controller.

Karadalis:
Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

I bet the Switch will be more successful than the Wii U within a year. All it has to do is exist, have a good Zelda game and that will be enough to see it past the 13 million Wii U's sold.

If it can match the Gamecube's sales the Switch will have been success, if it gets ahead of the N64 it will be a big success, any more than that and it will be far beyond my expectations.

As for MR Kojima, given what he seems to dream about this probably isn't a great endorsement.

Karadalis:
Kojima must be smoking some good shit nowadays if he believes the switch will be more successfull then the Wii U

He never said it would.

nickpy:

This. So much this. I don't understand why the industry seems to think that cloud gaming is not only desirable but inevitable. Firstly, unless they start putting data centres serving these games in every major population centre we'll never get the lag down to acceptable levels for the majority of subscribers. Secondly, it means the publisher has total control over what we can and can't do and we'll have to keep paying a sub........

wait. I see why they want it so bad now.

In principle, if they can get it to work well I have no problem with Cloud Gaming as an option, but being the only option would be, in my opinion, a consumer nightmare not a gamer dream.

I applaud the tinfoil hat rant. It was entertaining.

It is partially true, though. Developers like it because they have control over a cloud environment. It allows them to push patches, fixes, etc faster. Easier to prevent hacking of the game, control content. It's a win-win.

bjj hero:

Randomosity:

MonsterCrit:
Being able to start playing at home and then taking it with you.. is a gamer's dream. Specifically gamers below the age of 14 because above that, if you have a reason to leave your house your attention is going to be focused on that reason.

I respectfully disagree. There are plenty of times as an adult that I would play games. Lunch break at work, waiting room in the doctor's office, waiting for my flight at an airport, riding said flight, in between obligations (In my own personal case, in the time between my college classes and my work shift.)

Having access to games on the go is a nice thing to have. Plenty of people play games on the go as is. Smart phones and tablets are widely used for this, not to mention the noteworthy success of both the DS and 3DS.

So you are saying its a students dream then?

The only advantage I see is that I could play Zelda on the toilet. When Im out I am driving to or from where I am going and when I am there I am doing what I went to do.

Ive not been to the doctors waiting room for myself in at least 2 years, when I have been there it has been with my son or wife (same with the airport) so I would be ignoring them if I was playing switch.

This is definately not a console for grownups.

It's for Japanese grownups. Those people go to work by train and foot much more frequently than by car.

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