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Nintendo Shares Digital File Sizes For Some Switch Titles

Dragon Quest Heroes won't fit without adding a microSD card.

Over on its Japanese website (translated by IGN) Nintendo revealed the digital download sizes for several upcoming Switch games, and one in particular won't fit without the addition of a microSD card.

While the Switch comes with 32GB of memory, 6.1 of that is reserved for the operating system and other software, so Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2, which requires 32GB of space, won't fit without adding in a microSD card. As previously announced, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will require 13.4GB of space.

Here are some others, all requiring less space:

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 7GB
Puyo Puyo Tetris - 1.09GB
Disgaea 5 - 5.92GB
Snipperclips: Cut it Out, Together! - 1.60GB
I Am Setsuna - 1.4GB
Nobunaga's Ambition - 5GB

Luckily, buying any game physically means you won't have to worry about file sizes, as the Switch doesn't require games to be downloaded from a physical copy.

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Someone should have told Nintendo that even a year or so ago when they were building the Switches, that you could get 128gb for internal storage. But I suppose that cheap-ass Nintendo doesn't like giving people what they want.

-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

Hmm, I'm thinking they should've just charged 325-350 and had a 128gb card in there.

Just Nintendo being Nintendo again, i.e. Dumb as a bag of hammers

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

This is just how I understood things are with the Switch since it uses SD cards (if you don't trust this, which you maybe shouldn't 100%, ask someone who knows or search up some Youtube video about the SD cards on the switch :D):
When you play on your PS4, you first DL the game and then if there is additional content or upgrades that extra space is also required on your hard drive. Is this correct? Like I understood the full GTA5 is something like 80GB?
Nintendo using flash memory with SD cards would mean that installation file is all you need. So the 8GB MarioKart file is the final size of the game, even with upcoming DL content. 32GB is still very little today, but if the actual use of harddrive memory isn't that big, then it's not that bad. If you buy physical copies of the games, it won't be using any of the hard drives memory.
I am not 100% sure, but I saw someone write about this and one person saying this in a Youtube review after he had had hands-on time with the Switch at some event. I am not too much into this sort of thing, but that is how I have understood it works. If I am wrong, then someone correct me, as I said that is how I understood the explanations.

On the other hand, I doubt a 64GB starting memory would jack up the price of the console? I already got myself a 64GB MicroSD card for 20€ to increase the capacity. But I think aside from those 0-2GB games, I will be buying physical copies. Then again with downloaded games, even if I don't have my own games with me, and go to friends place, with Nintendo announcing that the Dl game finally are based on your account and not console, they can be played on friends consoles. And of course games I can't find in my hometown and will cost too much to buy from the internet due to postages will have to be bought from the Eshop. Also for the WiiU I had many games cost 49.90€ in my local store and then 39.90€ in the Eshop. If the difference is the same on the Switch then getting a 20€ 64GB microSD card and putting 5 games on that saves me 30€ roughly.

So much we don't know yet...

Supporting micro SDXC means the Switch can support up to 2TB on the microSD card slot, so I don't see it as that big of a deal. I think 512GB is the largest out so far?

The prices do need to come down though on micro SDXC in that range though :(

While the Switch comes with 32GB of memory, 6.1 of that is reserved for the operating system and other software, so Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2, which requires 32GB of space, won't fit without adding in a microSD card.

LMAO

To quote Star Wars, "This deal is getting worse all the time.".

I'm actually very surprised that Breath of the Wild is so small for what it is. Maybe Nintendo actually understands compression.

008Zulu:
Someone should have told Nintendo that even a year or so ago when they were building the Switches, that you could get 128gb for internal storage. But I suppose that cheap-ass Nintendo doesn't like giving people what they want.

And then hike up the price considerably and actually cost closer to a PS4 Pro. I actually prefer just the basic memory, that way I can choose how much I spend on more later.

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

Would your phone happen to be a flagship device?

deadish:

While the Switch comes with 32GB of memory, 6.1 of that is reserved for the operating system and other software, so Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2, which requires 32GB of space, won't fit without adding in a microSD card.

LMAO

To quote Star Wars, "This deal is getting worse all the time.".

Pray they don't alter it any further.

Ideally they would have multiple versions available. This is fine for those who buy physical, but it would be nice to have a more expensive larger option if you want all your games always installed.

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

1)your PS4 costs more
2) your pS4 is 40 times bigger
3) your pS4 doesnt have to run on a battery
4) the piss4 is retarded and installs ALL games, even physical copies, to the HD.
5) the pS4 is full of unoptimized shovelware like black ops 3 which is about 70 gigs in size, while
having nearly no content.

llubtoille:
Ideally they would have multiple versions available. This is fine for those who buy physical, but it would be nice to have a more expensive larger option if you want all your games always installed.

There is, its called "buy a microSD card. Which are cheap as shit. Be glad Nintendo isnt anticonsumer like sony, and forces you to buy overpriced proprietary memory cards that cost up to 100 bucks for 64 gig

chefzeff:

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

1)your PS4 costs more
2) your pS4 is 40 times bigger
3) your pS4 doesnt have to run on a battery
4) the piss4 is retarded and installs ALL games, even physical copies, to the HD.
5) the pS4 is full of unoptimized shovelware like black ops 3 which is about 70 gigs in size, while
having nearly no content.

llubtoille:
Ideally they would have multiple versions available. This is fine for those who buy physical, but it would be nice to have a more expensive larger option if you want all your games always installed.

There is, its called "buy a microSD card. Which are cheap as shit. Be glad Nintendo isnt anticonsumer like sony, and forces you to buy overpriced proprietary memory cards that cost up to 100 bucks for 64 gig

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

LegendaryGamer0:

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

Would your phone happen to be a flagship device?

No, actually, which is why I'm surprised that a flagship console has so little space to work with while also offering an online service for digital downloads. Maybe it's a portability thing, I don't know, but would it have really broken production costs to jam 64 gigs in there? Even if they are masters of compression and you buy external memory that space is gonna dry up quick, especially when you start factoring in things like save files and DLC.

Just... yeah, makes no sense that it's that small.

chefzeff:

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

1)your PS4 costs more
2) your pS4 is 40 times bigger
3) your pS4 doesnt have to run on a battery
4) the piss4 is retarded and installs ALL games, even physical copies, to the HD.
5) the pS4 is full of unoptimized shovelware like black ops 3 which is about 70 gigs in size, while
having nearly no content.

You know, I'd love to snark at you, but quite frankly I'm just impressed you got so mad at a throw away line about the PS4 (which wasn't even a Terabyte on launch, mind) that you broke a 3 & 1/2 year lurk to respond to me. That's... oddly touching.

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

Its okay when sony does it guess :^) Did you complain about the Vita too? Ofcourse you didnt, despite it having a whopping storage space of ZERO gigs. Did you complain about the PS4 only being able to store 10 games at best unless you paid out the nose for the 1TB upgrade?

Your saves are stored on the unit itself, or the cartridge if you're physical.

Someone should tell Nintendo that the "PC Master Race" thing was a joke; they're allowed to make quality products too!

Avnger:

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

Wait, you didn't use a marker or color coding for your cards? Wasn't that part of the benefit for the things being different colors? Also pretty sure no N64 game used memory cards, unless I'm forgetting something.

Wrex Brogan:

No, actually, which is why I'm surprised that a flagship console has so little space to work with while also offering an online service for digital downloads. Maybe it's a portability thing, I don't know, but would it have really broken production costs to jam 64 gigs in there? Even if they are masters of compression and you buy external memory that space is gonna dry up quick, especially when you start factoring in things like save files and DLC.

Just... yeah, makes no sense that it's that small.

I imagine they're already selling at a heavy loss, so anything else would be a bad hit, on top of likely compromising the intended price point. Not to even mention that future releases will likely be even larger and Nintendo might just realize that they're better off leaving it to expandable storage, which will only... well, expand.

chefzeff:

Its okay when sony does it guess :^) Did you complain about the Vita too? Ofcourse you didnt, despite it having a whopping storage space of ZERO gigs. Did you complain about the PS4 only being able to store 10 games at best unless you paid out the nose for the 1TB upgrade?

Your saves are stored on the unit itself, or the cartridge if you're physical.

Vita Defense Force here, the revision at least shipped it with 1GB internal storage. Absolutely nothing really, but it's something.

chefzeff:

Fuck me, atleast microsoft offers dedicated servers for your fee

Alright, that's just flat-out untrue. At least for most games as most still use P2P for some god forsaken reason, or servers hosted by third parties like all of EA's titles.

LegendaryGamer0:

I imagine they're already selling at a heavy loss, so anything else would be a bad hit, on top of likely compromising the intended price point. Not to even mention that future releases will likely be even larger and Nintendo might just realize that they're better off leaving it to expandable storage, which will only... well, expand.

I get that Hard drive size tends to be a bit small on launch, but given it can't even fit one of the early titles on there to begin with... well, yeah. Hope they sort that shit out with the next few versions. Also not the keenest on the idea of needing to buy external storage so I can play the latest titles, that feels like a band-aid rather than an actual solution to the memory problem.

Then again, maybe they're intending on people utilizing it similar to the 3DS and going with physical cartridges rather than focusing on digital downloads. It's been... hard to keep track of what they're expecting the Switch to do, what with saying it's a dedicated at-home console while also marketing the hell out of it's portability. So long as shit doesn't install to the hard drive for no reason...

chefzeff:

You know, I'd love to snark at you, but quite frankly I'm just impressed you got so mad at a throw away line about the PS4 (which wasn't even a Terabyte on launch, mind) that you broke a 3 & 1/2 year lurk to respond to me. That's... oddly touching.

Your post was just so asinine I had to reply. You pretty much forced my hand :^)

Did you also complain about Nintendo's paid online plans while conveniently ignoring that you're paying for PSN, which is quite literally sony forcing you to pay to use your own internet and console, since everything on PSN is peer2peer?

Fuck me, atleast microsoft offers dedicated servers for your fee

Oh, honey, don't be like that, you were doing so well and now you're making wild assumptions about my approach to the PSN, just spoils the mood when you do that. Next you'll be thinking I sleep in Sony brand pajamas while hugging a PS4, which is just not true.

I hug a PS3. Big difference.

008Zulu:
Someone should have told Nintendo that even a year or so ago when they were building the Switches, that you could get 128gb for internal storage. But I suppose that cheap-ass Nintendo doesn't like giving people what they want.

Hopefully it will encourage people to buy physical. Physical has so many advantages over digital it's inconceivable that so many prefer the inferior option.

- Ability to resell
- Ability to loan out/borrow
- Ability to play on multiple consoles without concerning yourself with account restrictions
- Cheaper, most games launch with a 20% discount on Amazon if you have prime and sales happen more often at retail
- Cheaper, you don't need to buy extra storage to store the games on

Now granted you do have to remove the card and put in a new one to change games but have people really become so lazy that this is a problem?

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

I've got seven 64 GB USB 3.0 drives for offline back-ups and a 128 GB mini SD in my tablet. Amongst others. That's kinda what happens when smartphone pics can be like 8 MB each, and you have a GoPro that needs 1.7GB per 17 minute video... In short: non-volatile memory is dirt cheap, has been for several years.

I'm very, very certain Nintendo could've gotten a MASSIVE discount on memory in the bulk amount they buy. So 64 or even 128 GB should've made each Switch only a few bucks more expensive.

Avnger:

chefzeff:

Wrex Brogan:
-looks up from my 1TB PS4- wait, the Switch has how much space? I've got USBs that are bigger than that, what the hell. My phone has more space on it. I just... god damn, that makes no sense.

1)your PS4 costs more
2) your pS4 is 40 times bigger
3) your pS4 doesnt have to run on a battery
4) the piss4 is retarded and installs ALL games, even physical copies, to the HD.
5) the pS4 is full of unoptimized shovelware like black ops 3 which is about 70 gigs in size, while
having nearly no content.

llubtoille:
Ideally they would have multiple versions available. This is fine for those who buy physical, but it would be nice to have a more expensive larger option if you want all your games always installed.

There is, its called "buy a microSD card. Which are cheap as shit. Be glad Nintendo isnt anticonsumer like sony, and forces you to buy overpriced proprietary memory cards that cost up to 100 bucks for 64 gig

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

I love memory cards. See, I usually have multiples of a console in different rooms. Moving save data was easier then, grab your disc and your memory card and move to a different console. With hard drives you have to transfer your save to an SD Card or a USB stick and hope it's not a locked save.

chefzeff:

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

Its okay when sony does it guess :^) Did you complain about the Vita too?

Um no... But then again, Sony never tried to pass off the Vita as a full home console either.

chefzeff:
Ofcourse you didnt, despite it having a whopping storage space of ZERO gigs.

Again, if Nintendo wasn't trying to pretend a half-baked handheld was a home console, I wouldn't really be bothering either.

chefzeff:
Did you complain about the PS4 only being able to store 10 games at best unless you paid out the nose for the 1TB upgrade?

Bad choice of examples here mate considering the Switch can't even hold 8 games that are equal in size to the average of the ones in the article. And considering that the Switch is also supposed to hold "all" of the apps, virtual console, and digital downloads as well, yeah..... Bad example chief.

[quote="chefzeff" post="7.947267.23907054"]
Your saves are stored on the unit itself, or the cartridge if you're physical.

Ah, so your saves for every game eat even more into the meager 32GB? Well, ain't that just dandy.

This whole crap screams of the same shit the big N is doing with making every single item for the switch except the handheld itself as extra peripherals to buy on top of the unit.

Also, do you have any proof of these claims, or are you just making things up to trying and argue your point that "Ninty is a do-no-evil benevolent entity that exists for the sole purpose of giving gamers everything they ever wanted (along with that they never knew they wanted)"?

Protip: Actually quote peoples' posts when you're responding to them so they get a notification. Otherwise it just seems like you're trying to make a rebuttal without wanting to be critiqued.

LegendaryGamer0:

Avnger:

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

Wait, you didn't use a marker or color coding for your cards? Wasn't that part of the benefit for the things being different colors? Also pretty sure no N64 game used memory cards, unless I'm forgetting something.

I somehow ended up with like 6 of the exact same green ones -.-

And yeah, there were save cartridges that you had to buy a plugin to the bottom of the N64 controller and then a card to go into the plugin. Battletanx, for example, had a save feature that used them.

chefzeff:

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

Its okay when sony does it guess :^) Did you complain about the Vita too?

Most people did, did you miss all the complaints about the proprietary memory card and how it was a hidden cost? That was one of the big reasons the Vita failed in my opinion.

WeepingAngels:

Avnger:

chefzeff:

1)your PS4 costs more
2) your pS4 is 40 times bigger
3) your pS4 doesnt have to run on a battery
4) the piss4 is retarded and installs ALL games, even physical copies, to the HD.
5) the pS4 is full of unoptimized shovelware like black ops 3 which is about 70 gigs in size, while
having nearly no content.

There is, its called "buy a microSD card. Which are cheap as shit. Be glad Nintendo isnt anticonsumer like sony, and forces you to buy overpriced proprietary memory cards that cost up to 100 bucks for 64 gig

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

I love memory cards. See, I usually have multiples of a console in different rooms. Moving save data was easier then, grab your disc and your memory card and move to a different console. With hard drives you have to transfer your save to an SD Card or a USB stick and hope it's not a locked save.

Fair enough; that is a good use case for them. I've definitely done the USB thing with PC saves before.

How many switches would you need to fuse together to handle the beast that is the DOOM file size? That thing owns like 1/3 of my PS4's drive and I haven't played it in forever/ will never touch multi.

altnameJag:
Hmm, I'm thinking they should've just charged 325-350 and had a 128gb card in there.

It'd put the console in a bad price range in comparison to the other consoles. PS4s are now $350 in the US. The Switch costing the same would have it ridiculed due to the hardware comparison.

And that carries on into international markets too. Here in Canada the Switch is $400. A PS4 is $430. And the controller price don't help. And the fact that if you're going to force gamers to buy an SD card for a respectable amount of Memory, the Switch's price point isn't as attractive as it seems. With a bigger internal memory upgrade or not. This is a weird position the Switch and Nintendo are in.

Ahh the Nintendo Defence Force. I thought they went and circlejerked on NeoGaf.

chefzeff:
1)your PS4 costs more

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Plus i was actually able to buy a PS4 on launch...

...and lets not mention that according to this article purchasing at least one MicroSD card will be nessessary.

chefzeff:
2) your pS4 is 40 times bigger

The point being we have the space for it. Plus while the switch itself is small the dock that comes with it isnt.

chefzeff:
3) your pS4 doesnt have to run on a battery

This is a GOOD thing.

I dont get why people are championing this aspect of the Switch. Instead of trying to be as good as its direct competitors and maybe even as good as PC it neuters and mutilates itself in an attempt to access the handheld market as well.

A handheld market in which, rumor has it, Nintendo is working on the true successor to the 3DS. The very concept of the Switch is flawed and Nintendo are allegedly going to end up competing with itself.

And batteries have a limited operational life, especially when they need to get charged on a regular basis. Its happened to my laptops, its happening to my Kindle and 3DS and i were bothered to use the bloody thing id probably find it happening to my smartphone too.

chefzeff:
4) the piss4 is retarded and installs ALL games, even physical copies, to the HD.

Well this is the one flaw with disc based media. It takes time to read things off of a Blu-Ray disc, plus more often than not the data on the disc (and in downloads to, for that matter) is compressed (to cram more things in) and usually encrypted (to prevent piracy) and theese are things that are undone during the installation process.

Now if the Switch has no install process for physical media, and therefore cartridges have no compression or encryption... well then Nintendo truly has reached the twilight zone of retardation.

chefzeff:
5) the pS4 is full of unoptimized shovelware like black ops 3 which is about 70 gigs in size, while having nearly no content.

Black Ops 3 is not propreitary shovelware.

The install size for BlOps3 (according to the Steam storefront) is 60GB.

As much as i hate Call of Duty i would never say it has no content.

Optimisation is not a subject im qualified to talk about.

chefzeff:
There is, its called "buy a microSD card. Which are cheap as shit. Be glad Nintendo isnt anticonsumer like sony, and forces you to buy overpriced proprietary memory cards that cost up to 100 bucks for 64 gig

Maybe the lower capacty ones are, but if you want to be able to play games without juggling storage space you will end up having to buy extras.

Not that this is an immediate concern to you, after all the Switch is getting maybe 5 games of note in its launch year.

altnameJag:
Hmm, I'm thinking they should've just charged 325-350 and had a 128gb card in there.

I buy physical when I can, I don't need all that extra memory that adds to the cost to buy the console.

gigastar:

I dont get why people are championing this aspect of the Switch. Instead of trying to be as good as its direct competitors and maybe even as good as PC it neuters and mutilates itself in an attempt to access the handheld market as well.

We have PS4, Xbox One and PC. Why do we need another system like that? It needs a lower price, not more powerful hardware.

A handheld market in which, rumor has it, Nintendo is working on the true successor to the 3DS. The very concept of the Switch is flawed and Nintendo are allegedly going to end up competing with itself.

I read that they had recalled the remaining Wii U's from stores. If that's true then I imagine they did it because the Wii U is a closer competitor to the Switch than the 3DS since they are both priced at $300 (or they were before they were recalled, I haven't seen a new one on a store shelf in months). Think about how it would look if the Wii came out at $250 and the Gamecube was still priced at $250. To me it would make the Gamecube look like the superior system for it to be 5 years old and the same price as the new console. I imagine they are working on a 3DS successor but they won't release it unless the Switch fails.

Now if the Switch has no install process for physical media, and therefore cartridges have no compression or encryption... well then Nintendo truly has reached the twilight zone of retardation.

I could have sworn that you originally said that we would have to install games. You edited it I suppose once you did some research. Your comment prompted me to do some research and I found nothing to suggest that Switch physical games have to be installed. That is a good thing. Nintendo is super paranoid about piracy, they won't leave their games wide open.

WeepingAngels:

gigastar:
I dont get why people are championing this aspect of the Switch. Instead of trying to be as good as its direct competitors and maybe even as good as PC it neuters and mutilates itself in an attempt to access the handheld market as well.

We have PS4, Xbox One and PC. Why do we need another system like that? It needs a lower price, not more powerful hardware.

I disagree. Xbox and Playstation both need more direct competition so MS and Sony arent just driven to one-up the other but to make sure they dont get overtaken by a third party.

And even if developers arent openly decrying the Switch for its lack of power, the fact that most of what theyre offering are ports speaks louder than words, in my opinion.

WeepingAngels:

gigastar:
A handheld market in which, rumor has it, Nintendo is working on the true successor to the 3DS. The very concept of the Switch is flawed and Nintendo are allegedly going to end up competing with itself.

I read that they had recalled the remaining Wii U's from stores. If that's true then I imagine they did it because the Wii U is a closer competitor to the Switch than the 3DS since they are both priced at $300 (or they were before they were recalled, I haven't seen a new one on a store shelf in months). Think about how it would look if the Wii came out at $250 and the Gamecube was still priced at $250. To me it would make the Gamecube look like the superior system for it to be 5 years old and the same price as the new console. I imagine they are working on a 3DS successor but they won't release it unless the Switch fails.

I hadnt heard about the WiiU recall. It makes sense i suppose.

But my point was, the Switch is trying to gain a purchase in the handheld console market, at the cost of its viability in the home console market. I simply dont think its workable.

And if Nint are preparing a 3DS successor for release after the Switch has failed, then what does it say about thier optimism for the Switch when theyre allegedly developing something that certainly will outcompete the Switch in the market it was designed to tap into already?

WeepingAngels:

gigastar:
Now if the Switch has no install process for physical media, and therefore cartridges have no compression or encryption... well then Nintendo truly has reached the twilight zone of retardation.

I could have sworn that you originally said that we would have to install games. You edited it I suppose once you did some research. Your comment prompted me to do some research and I found nothing to suggest that Switch physical games have to be installed. That is a good thing. Nintendo is super paranoid about piracy, they won't leave their games wide open.

Youre right, i wasnt satified with my original argument and therefore went and did some Basic Research and came back with somethimg more substantial.

And i dont think Nint would leave thier games open either, but even if theyre using Denuvo or a similar DRM system i dont see how theyre going to stop the crackers for long.

I don't understand why more memory wasn't added. Memory at this point is almost free. 128 or 256 would go a long way towards quality of life and barely add any cost.

Luckily, buying any game physically means you won't have to worry about file sizes, as the Switch doesn't require games to be downloaded from a physical copy.

Except for DLC, content updates, patches, and any dev that wants to cut down on what could be long load times.[1]

But sure. Buying physical will make up for the laughably tiny storage space Nintendo, for some baffling reason[2], thought was adequate for the Switch.

[1] I'm yet to see any evidence Nintendo's 'cartridges' improve load times.
[2] It certainly wouldn't be to encourage people to buy extra storage from Nintendo. That'd be crazy. Nintendo would never design a piece of hardware, or software, around forcing users to buy superfluous peripherals.

Avnger:

Ah so Ninty has brought us back to the days of PS1/2 and N64 memory cards where we have to remember exactly which card in the stack holds each persons' save files for any given game. Fun times. Everyone say "Thank you!" and bend on over!

Edit: Gotta love that progress Nintendo keeps pushing on the game industry.

I used to use stickers ... afraid of using stickers with microSD/SDXC cards though.

In truth I don't mind so much. It runs on battery and SDXC is low power consumption. The one thing I worry about is whether your stock standard M/USB recharger will be gentle on the battery type they're using.

Put it like this ... with a portable unit, would you prefer an internal HDD that chews up more power, makes it heavier, and would make it more obtuse to carry? Or would you rather being able to carry two 1TB SDs and slot them in when you need access to certain stored games?

The kind of cool thing is you coul set aside certain SD cards for certain things ... like if you want to play certain games for the time you have (like a half hour busride) then a super cheap low volume card set aside for all those small games, and so on ... to save on clutter unlike a single internal HDD.

Which is kind of cool, in a way.

The key concern I'm worried about is losing them and whether they carry digital information you used for online purchases. Hopefully they keep that information server side and merely authenticate through your console unit, not put the cookies and stuff on the cards that you used to buy that stuff.

I mean, that would be the smartest thing ... but given Nintendo recently talked about monetised DLC for a game and console they haven't even released yet, I'm starting to doubt just how mentally with it they are. I mean ... why did they think that was a good idea? No one truly even knew what everything in the game contained, yet you're talking about stuff you decided on and pre-priced already. How the hell did they think that was a good idea?

I mean they could have said nothing, no one would have cared, they'd generate the same revenue, and no additional ill will would have been suffered. They literally could have said nothing and just waited a week after the game launched ... and that would have helped boost sales slightly with the whole; "And they're supporting the game into the future! How nice ..."

What were they thinking? It hurts my brain ....

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