Australian Steam Games Are About to Get a Flat 10% Price Increase

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Australian Steam Games Are About to Get a Flat 10% Price Increase

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As if games in Australia aren't already expensive enough, they are about to be subject to the country's 10% goods and services tax.

Video games in Australia are already considerably more expensive than their American counterparts, for almost no reason at all. I'm afraid it's only going to get worse before it gets better, as a new ruling from the Australian Government is forcing all overseas digital distributers to attach the 10% goods and services tax to their products that physical goods are subject to.

In an e-mail sent out to Steam developers, Valve stated:

The VAT tax amount will be included in the advertised price of your product, just like VAT is currently treated in the EU. This means the customer will pay the price displayed on the storefront, and the tax will be separated out afterwards.

While it is possible that publishers will simply adjust the price of their games to match the retail price and absorb the 10% tax increase, it's likely that games will simply get 10% more expensive when purchased via Steam.

The rollout of the tax is slated for July, so get your games before then!

Source: Kotaku

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all its going to do is get australians to not buy directly on steam or simply wait for sales

"Get fucked, Australia" -Australia

Yeah, this really sucks. Why does Australia's government hate fun so much? Seems like consuming any entertainment is harder over there. Games, internet, porn....

I say steam should just say F off Australia block them and release the steam DRM on Australian users. Open the flood gates for Australian pirates yar har fiddly dee. In all seriousness Australian government needs to just shut up and actually do something good for once.

pookie101:
all its going to do is get australians to not buy directly on steam or simply wait for sales

You might have missed this line.

Steven Bogos:
I'm afraid it's only going to get better before it gets worse, as a new ruling from the Australian Government is forcing all overseas digital distributes to attach the 10% goods and services tax to their products that physical goods are subject to.

Which means This will apply to GMG, origin, Uplay and pretty much every other digital retailer.

Heh heh, couldn't happen to a nicer country.

This is why people pirate. Whether it's being forced to choose between a slew of different streaming services (HBO Go, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.), or having to pay ridiculous prices for games, making it harder to purchase digital goods just drives more and more people to piracy.

pookie101:
all its going to do is get australians to not buy directly on steam or simply wait for sales

It hits Steam too.

If anything this is going to help out sales for Gray Market retailers who buy Russian Republic keys and sell them for less than official keys.

Steven Bogos:
I'm afraid it's only going to get better before it gets worse,

Shouldnt that be "get worse before it gets better"?

I mean, GST being correctly applied isn't the problem here. The problem here is that for no reason at all, retailers tend to double the price for this region. Steam is extra dickish about it because steam also refuses to allow the $AU in their market (Regional pricing, but refusing to let us use our dollars, means the regional higher pricer is in $US, and therefore gets marked up a second time in conversion.)

So yeah, for example, a major game like Fallout 4 is listed as 79.99, a pretty standard price for Australian stores. But its 79.99 USD, so its actually 104.02. Which is the pricing you only see in our gamestop equivalent (EB Games), to punish you for shopping there.

Getting mad over the items being correctly taxed, is like getting mad that the highway robber also took your scarf. He took your wallet first, maybe that should be a higher priority?

What exactly are we teaching our young Australians? This country was where they put all their criminals and people they didn't like. You're practically begging them to return to form to screw the retailers.

Ahhhhh Australia, never change. Whenever I want to whine about being charged too much for something here I can just remember that the batshit insane politicians here will never ass fuck me to the degree that they do to you.

For fucking real, are they against people keeping their money there?

This is pretty annoying, but nowhere near as bad as Sony's overpriced digital downloads...Yet...

MonsterCrit:

Heh heh, couldn't happen to a nicer country.

As someone who lives in Oz, I'm not sure if Australia is that much of a "nice country" these days. :(

But yeah, this sucks. Whenever I hear people complaining about full priced games at $60...well, trust me, it could be worse. Though I think we have prices better than Brazil at least, so there is that.

This is going to cause sales to drop off in Australia. I used to only get games when they were 25% or better off, now it won't be until they are 50% or better. Sorry devs.

Eh, Steam isn't a big deal. Never buy from there for the most part anyway since they've always been a colossal ripoff. Ditto for Greenman and GoG and all the other major sellers.

Going to suck if and when all the key sites like cjs and cdkeys and ozgameshop start charging it as well though.

The reason this came about was because local retailers here had a consistent giant hissy fit about online retailers not having to charge GST (as if that was the reason horrendously overpriced and terribly run local stores were failing lol). Oh and we have a draconian conservative government who initiated it.

ron1n:
Eh, Steam isn't a big deal. Never buy from there for the most part anyway since they've always been a colossal ripoff. Ditto for Greenman and GoG and all the other major sellers.

Going to suck if and when all the key sites like cjs and cdkeys and ozgameshop start charging it as well though.

The reason this came about was because local retailers here had a consistent giant hissy fit about online retailers not having to charge GST (as if that was the reason horrendously overpriced and terribly run local stores were failing lol). Oh and we have a draconian conservative government who initiated it.

You must have missed this part: "all overseas digital distributers"

Aka they're aiming to force literally every digital service that sells games to jack up the prices for our region. What's real stupid is the digital prices will probably still be lower due to how utterly fucked aus retail rrps have been for decades between the standard 80-90 prices and the 110-130 dollar special editions uh.

If the assholes running the damn stores would stop being so stupid and greedy this shit wouldn't be the way it is. Like they think oh we could lower our prices to get more people in stores but nah son lets go fuck up the competition instead, because that'll help. Bloody morons.

Makes it more worthwhile to buy off Gog.com now.

I need a reason to get away from the hellhole that is Steam and Valve's shady practices of recent years. Steam games were just...cheaper though. Gotta get the bargains. Hopefully now this will make it match Gog.com prices so I can buy from them :)

The source doesn't mention the AU government or that it'll apply to other retailers (so I'm not sure where the Escapist is sourcing this from). It's happening to other countries too. (Switzerland, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Iceland, South Africa, and India are getting it in March, for example.)

Mmmmm...
Anyone else remember the $120 AUS X-Com 2?

Aren't Australian steam games already the most expensive in the world? The only thing I can imagine to be more are in England, but now with brexit, who knows.

Used to be an Australian resident, seeing every brand new game hit shelves at $99 gets old REAL quick.

wow. this sure will help to get more customers. like paying 90AUD for a game isnt expensive enough. no wonder i buy only a game or 2 i really want but wait for the rest to drop a lot in price. good thing i have waited with dishonored 2 to be on sale. got it for 34AUD at my local store. got RE7 for 80AUD since a other store wants over 90AUD.
australia really hates for people to have fun. not for long and they will ban anything they remotely see as fun.

Figures that something like this would happen. Our shit government fucks up everything they touch, so this is no real surprise. Looks like it will be Steam sales and grey market keys for me from now on.

pookie101:
all its going to do is get australians to not buy directly on steam or simply wait for sales

Not going to work, this hits EVERYWHERE. The titles says "Steam games" instead of "online games" because the writer is a complete git.

Dr. McD:

pookie101:
all its going to do is get australians to not buy directly on steam or simply wait for sales

Not going to work, this hits EVERYWHERE. The titles says "Steam games" instead of "online games" because the writer is a complete git.

I can assure you there is a very healthy grey market of trustworthy sites selling CD keys. Probably about to get a bump in business.

I don't condone piracy either, except if they legitimately have no money. And with too high taxes, no common Australian has money for reasonable products. So I'd advocate for every Australian to pirate every game, ever.

Hawki:

As someone who lives in Oz, I'm not sure if Australia is that much of a "nice country" these days. :(

Depends on whether you believe the HurrDurrdoch media or real life. If you believe derpdoch, then yeah, we're all racist bigots who hate everything except coal, which we have sex with every day. If you believe real life, then Australia is a great country full of incredibly nice people, with a small spattering of angry morons that make far too much noise.

Why people support a government that robs and craps on them like this one does?

It's not the sales tax that bothers me here. It's the fact that we pay so much more for no good reason.

Well you know... Pushing all those bits across the ocean. Gets heavy.

(Tongue entirely in cheek.)

Australia, I'm so sorry. The prices you pay weren't fair to begin with, and your legislators seem to think that video games are the digital equivalent of a rabbit infestation.

DarthCoercis:

Depends on whether you believe the HurrDurrdoch media or real life. If you believe derpdoch, then yeah, we're all racist bigots who hate everything except coal, which we have sex with every day. If you believe real life, then Australia is a great country full of incredibly nice people, with a small spattering of angry morons that make far too much noise.

Is it fair to say that I believe a combination of these things? That, no, I don't think every Australian is a racist, but combined with the rise/return of One Nation (apparently we're now being swamped by Muslims rather than Chinese), with racist slurs written on toilet room doors at uni (not the biggest issue in the world, but one I found off-putting), coupled with how about 47% of Australians want a Muslim ban according to a recent poll (despite the fact that Muslims make up around 2% of the population, and events like the Lindt Cafe siege, while tragic, are relatively minor in terms of loss of life, and very rare occurrences), coupled with Australia having a history of racism (goldfields attacks on the Chinese, White Australia Policy, Aborigines couldn't vote until 1962, etc.), then, yeah.

Pointing out racism and acknowledging it exists isn't the same as painting everyone with the same brush.

Now this is just blatantly Australocentric reporting! What about the poor people of Iceland, who get hit with a 24% increase? What did they ever do to deserve that? If playing in bands with Bjork is such a crime, only half of them ever did!

Source: https://techraptor.net/content/steam-prices-increasing-australia-due-10-sales-tax

(Yes, another example of rampant Australocentrism there as well!)

Frankly, the Australian government isn't to blame.

Valve and all other game publishes were forcing such ridiculous prices already. Proper application of taxes isn't bad, and a GST of 10% is standard fair in many countries.

Frankly, this is why I import physical copies of the game from elsewhere, because Steam has always been gouging Australian customers so fuck them. Either that or just buy from GoG. There's a reason one of their sales pitches is; 'One world price' ... it's because video game publishers were already gouging people.

Hawki:

DarthCoercis:

Depends on whether you believe the HurrDurrdoch media or real life. If you believe derpdoch, then yeah, we're all racist bigots who hate everything except coal, which we have sex with every day. If you believe real life, then Australia is a great country full of incredibly nice people, with a small spattering of angry morons that make far too much noise.

Is it fair to say that I believe a combination of these things? That, no, I don't think every Australian is a racist, but combined with the rise/return of One Nation (apparently we're now being swamped by Muslims rather than Chinese), with racist slurs written on toilet room doors at uni (not the biggest issue in the world, but one I found off-putting), coupled with how about 47% of Australians want a Muslim ban according to a recent poll (despite the fact that Muslims make up around 2% of the population, and events like the Lindt Cafe siege, while tragic, are relatively minor in terms of loss of life, and very rare occurrences), coupled with Australia having a history of racism (goldfields attacks on the Chinese, White Australia Policy, Aborigines couldn't vote until 1962, etc.), then, yeah.

Pointing out racism and acknowledging it exists isn't the same as painting everyone with the same brush.

It's not that simple though. I hope you're not saying Muslims are a race, and if we have to face harsh truths, then you have to remember that Islam has a fucking terrible image right now (they're similar). Many of us are looking at France, Germany and Sweden and how much crime has risen there, including we can't ignore the injustice so many suffer in most Islamic states.

I don't believe it's fair to say it's an irrational fear, and among other things, the costs for crime prevention went up a fair bit too. To be honest, I haven't got the facts for how much though, if what I've read is to be believed.

As for the past, it's the past, and times have changed a lot, and every country has some horrible events throughout their history.

Nazulu:
I hope you're not saying Muslims are a race,

No, course not.

Nazulu:
then you have to remember that Islam has a fucking terrible image right now

Not denying that either.

Nazulu:
Many of us are looking at France, Germany and Sweden and how much crime has risen there,

I'm dubious about that. Ever since Trump's Sweeden remarks, I've seen a plenthora of articles from both sides of the debate, some backing up his claims, others refuting them.

Nazulu:
including we can't ignore the injustice so many suffer in most Islamic states.

I agree there as well, but-

Nazulu:
I don't believe it's fair to say it's an irrational fear,

I will draw the line there. Now, I'm not saying that having concerns about Islam/migrants/Muslims/whatever makes you a (insert pejorative of choice here). Whatever the truth of Europe is, I'm not claiming it's all sunshines and rainbows.

HOWEVER, again, looking at Australia in particular, and the things we can control, I'll ask this:

1) Are we in danger of being "swamped" by Muslims?

2) Has there been an upsurge of terrorist activity in Australia related to Islamic extremism?

I'd argue that the solution to both questions is "no." Again, Muslims in Australia make up about 2.2% of the population. Heck, there's more Buddhists living in the country (2.5%). I'm more worried about Islamic than Buddhist extremism (and yes, the latter does exist), but again, taking Australia in isolation, I haven't seen anything that would justify any of the extreme measures that some have called for.

Back in the 1990s, Hanson warned that Australia was at risk of being "swamped" by Asians. In the 2010s, ask yourself, has that happened?

Nazulu:
As for the past, it's the past, and times have changed a lot, and every country has some horrible events throughout their history.

Okay, but the legacy of the past is still felt. There's far too many issues with Australia's Aboriginal population, ranging from the physical (life expectancy), to legal (constitutional recognition) to cultural (the Australia Day debate) to simply say "yep, all in the past."

Hawki:

Nazulu:
Many of us are looking at France, Germany and Sweden and how much crime has risen there,

I'm dubious about that. Ever since Trump's Sweeden remarks, I've seen a plenthora of articles from both sides of the debate, some backing up his claims, others refuting them.

Others go by numbers.

Nazulu:
I don't believe it's fair to say it's an irrational fear,

I will draw the line there. Now, I'm not saying that having concerns about Islam/migrants/Muslims/whatever makes you a (insert pejorative of choice here). Whatever the truth of Europe is, I'm not claiming it's all sunshines and rainbows.

HOWEVER, again, looking at Australia in particular, and the things we can control, I'll ask this:

1) Are we in danger of being "swamped" by Muslims?

2) Has there been an upsurge of terrorist activity in Australia related to Islamic extremism?

I'd argue that the solution to both questions is "no." Again, Muslims in Australia make up about 2.2% of the population. Heck, there's more Buddhists living in the country (2.5%). I'm more worried about Islamic than Buddhist extremism (and yes, the latter does exist), but again, taking Australia in isolation, I haven't seen anything that would justify any of the extreme measures that some have called for.

Back in the 1990s, Hanson warned that Australia was at risk of being "swamped" by Asians. In the 2010s, ask yourself, has that happened?

It's not even being "swamped" or stats, it's the fact that this creepy ideology likes to sneak up on groups of people and explode or do other horrifying things. You just don't know when or where it will spring up, and no one wants to give it a chance. Now don't get me wrong, I believe a lot of fears hear are irrational, but a lot isn't.

As for Hanson, I haven't done anywhere near enough research on her, but I don't agree at all with that paranoid remark. However, when I saw a protestor group claiming she's racist for her concerns about Muslims, she did look like the only one there with any sense when she said they weren't a race. And with the fucking media in America calling people sexist, racist, Nazi's left and right, I can understand peoples concerns about the regressive left as well. They don't want that shit to spread here either.

Nazulu:
As for the past, it's the past, and times have changed a lot, and every country has some horrible events throughout their history.

Okay, but the legacy of the past is still felt. There's far too many issues with Australia's Aboriginal population, ranging from the physical (life expectancy), to legal (constitutional recognition) to cultural (the Australia Day debate) to simply say "yep, all in the past."

Do you have any articles or video's to expand on this? I would really appreciate it. If you don't want to that's fine too. I've been meaning to look into that more myself.

Edit: Are we discussing this in the wrong thread?

OT: To be more on topic, Fucking Hell! Our censorship laws are ridiculous enough, why this!?

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