Pokemon Sword and Shield Impressions - Sword and Board

Pokemon S&S is Great!

Pokemon S&S is Terrible.

Pokemon is great because finally, after 20 fucking years, you can actually skip all the tutorial stuff. No more learning how to catch a Pokemon or jump off a tiny ledge, or any number of other excessive tutorials that have flooded recent Pokemon games.

Pokemon is terrible because it has done basically nothing with the advancement in technology. You can tell that they thought about it though. For example the Wild Area (which is a open world esque zone in the game but really is only one of the routes in the game) you have full control over the camera. A small thing but it makes it insanely noticable in the rest of the game which plays exactly like every other Gameboy version of the games. Locked camera angle routes and towns, which makes you wonder why they even bothered to give you the camera control in a single area in the game.

Pokemon is great because it is the still the game we've loved for generations. Turn based battle gameplay, a way too young child alone on a round the world trip to defeat all the gym badges in the country and become champion. In fact that's basically the story, you are a kid and there is a champion that is famous everywhere so.....you beat him. There is no Team Rocket this time, there is an enemy team but they are just stupid mega fans of the champion which makes them fairly forgettable and pointless. also Pokemon is terrible.

Pokemon is terrible because again it is the same gameplay you've played for 20 years in a row. The new monsters aren't all that great, they're fine, not bad, but not great either. And for the first time since the original games, the starters are mono type which makes them uninteresting compared to every starter to come before them.

Okay enough of the little gimmick here. Let's get down to the core here. Is Pokemon S&S a good Pokemon game? Yes. Absolutely yes. It's all I can say really, if you've played other main Pokemon games, then you've played this and you'll like it if you are already a fan of the formula.

That's kind of the problem though right? It's the same shit again. Which if this was on the 3DS again I'd have little problem with because the Pokemon games have always been fantastically built to be little portable stop and start experiences. However this time they are on the big bad console and it just seems lacking in terms of the power and memory they have on offer here.

While I'm not much to care about the big Dex cut in which they've cut the available Pokemon in this game from over 900 down to 385, it does seem kind of weird that they wouldn't put them all in to allow players to have everything on the brand new system jump. And their excuse is utterly stupid when you look at how little they've actually done with the game. There are no console leaps here, it's a 3DS game that has been upscaled to HD graphics for the Switch.

Pokemon strikes me as a series that should be much more annual than it is. Like Call of Duty, it basically is the same game everytime, the core systems never change or if they do it is very minor. Though at the same time I guess there isn't a lot you could do to evolve a formula that basically boils down to:

1. Beat wild animals into submission
2. Toss a magic mind control device at them
3. Enslave them to beat down their bretheren so that you can enslave them all.
4. Maybe also save the world or just beat up everybody else's animals like a world wide bully.

This game does have a lot of quality of life things, like being able to access your box from anywhere, using your camp to make curry which has a variety of effects but the most important one being that there is a curry which will revive, heal, and restore your Pokemon without having to go back to a Pokemon Center. They've done a lot to reduce or even remove the need to go to town so you can be out in the world grinding and or hunting for shinies. I've not seen any shiny Pokemon yet, but there are no random encounters in the game as like in Let's Go the Pokemon pop up in the grass and you can avoid or chose to fight them. I assume it has some sort of shiny system that will allow you to shiny hunt, but maybe it doesn't.

Also there is the Mega size thing. This is a lot like Mega Evolutions. Cool on paper, but it only works in limited situations and only with a few specific Pokemon. So it doesn't effect multiplayer competitive play, and it is just a gimmick in the over all game. Ultimately it isn't worth talking much about because it is such a non-thing.

I'm conflicted because really Pokemon S&S is exactly what I wanted from Pokemon. A real adventure on the Switch. Remember I was disappointed with Let's Go for basically being the shit mobile game ported into a console-like game. So I really enjoy Pokemon S&S.

However I can't help but continue to have a bad taste in my mouth while playing the game because they had all the potential of making a full Pokemon experience with the full power of a console and they didn't do anything with it. I had been hoping there would be something extra or evolved here in the jump to a system more powerful than anything they've ever gotten a chance to use before. Especially if you look at the Let's Go games as GameFreak just testing the waters of what it's like to put a game on the Switch.

So i dunno really. It's good. But it's also just derivative and poor.

EDIT: I wanted to clarify why I don't care about the Dex cut. As someone who's already gone through the fucking nightmare of trying to catch all 800 bastards in Ultra sun and completing that Dex. I never want to have to complete that shit again. I like that this game is not only down to a managable 385 creatures, but they are also all contained between the two versions of the game without have to use Pokemon Bank, and other shenanigans to catch them all.

It might suck if your favorite is cut, but ultimately there are a bunch of new Pokemon here that might let you discover a new favorite. And a Dex cut is good for a new generation and a new audience on the Switch because it makes the idea of completion a reasonable task.

Competitively, this might force a new meta.

CritialGaming:

Pokemon is great because finally, after 20 fucking years, you can actually skip all the tutorial stuff.

wait you can? i've been sitting through tutorial crap for the last hour only to find this shit out NOW?!?!?!?!?

god damn it...

I still think the dex cut was just so when they release this version "yellow" they'll put the entire rex in it as a selling point.

I freaking love pokemon as a kid, got super close to catching everything (was missing one starter family). But the repetition got to me and I dropped out after awhile. So its it's more of the same I'll just skip again.

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

Pokemon is great because finally, after 20 fucking years, you can actually skip all the tutorial stuff.

wait you can? i've been sitting through tutorial crap for the last hour only to find this shit out NOW?!?!?!?!?

god damn it...

You can't skip 100% of them, like the camp and dynamaxing because they are new. But you can skip the tutorial about pokemon centers, and the dex and such by just telling people you are already familiar with it. It saves a bit of time and the early game drag.

It's weird how this game managed to make me hyped at first, then my hype plummeted hard after every trailer that surfaced and new details came out. Now, after all of the technical things they ignored to help make the game smoother to play and nicer looking, all the corners they cut, all the moved they got rid of, the things they removed from past games, and all the times they flat out lied to us (Remaking the models my ass, they probably just meant the new ones)... Just... ugh. It's a shame. I don't mind the dex cut either. But looking at the new pokemon list, I'm not sure if I'm much of a fan either.

I feel like this could've been so much more, but they just decided to crap something together and call it a day. The game just seems sloppy looking, from a technical and visual perspective

https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/1195426519088271362

Also it appears they figured out the shiny hunt. Chain Knockouts of a single species, after 25, the odds of shinies go drastically up or whatever

Oh, it came out? I was planning on buying a Switch just for this, but nah. I am passing on it. Lets hope Animal Crossing doesnt decide to get rid of interior design.

You know, I don't doubt it's a good Pokemon game, but I can't bring myself to do it. I like bringing in my old team to help train the new Pokemon up to max level with them and keep my living dex going. With the restrictions, I can't bring most of my old guys. I might get it later if I get desperate enough!

Saelune:
Oh, it came out? I was planning on buying a Switch just for this

Why? there are so many better games on Switch than Pokemon.

Yoshi178:
[Why? there are so many better games on Switch than Pokemon.

That's what we in the industry call "system sellers"

Elvis Starburst:

Yoshi178:
[Why? there are so many better games on Switch than Pokemon.

That's what we in the industry call "system sellers"

nope. Pokemon is so much more of a system seller than stuff like Astral Chain and Xenoblade are.

but Astral Chain and Xenoblade are defintely better games than Pokemon.

My hype is completely dead for pokemon at this stage. They took out too much. You'd think a move to the big screen would mean an evolution for everything but gamefreak chose to hold B down instead.

I'll just wait for the super edition and maybe that one will have mega evolutions and all those deleted attacks and so on again.

Oh and Pokemon is definitely the system seller for nintendo. I still remember how I got a pikachu n64 just for pokemon stadium back in the day. I only ever owned the two stadium games and ocarina of time on that system lol. Just this time around Astral Chain already exists and a future Shin Megami Tensei 5 is being made as well. I need no pokemon being good to get a Switch lol.

Yoshi178:

Saelune:
Oh, it came out? I was planning on buying a Switch just for this

Why? there are so many better games on Switch than Pokemon.

I really like Pokemon, enough to buy a console just to play Pokemon, unless they make it utter trash. I got a 3DS to play Pokemon. I usually buy Pokemon games day 1. I have a Pokemon Bank filled with every single Pokemon, including every legendary.

I will wait to see if Animal Crossing will be worth it. I like Zelda, but not enough to buy a console for it. And I already own Skyrim on 360, One, PS3, PS4 and Steam.

Edit: I give zero fucks about Astral Chain and Xeno anything since Xenosaga 1. I am not saying they are bad, I just dont care for those kind of games.

Yoshi178:
nope. Pokemon is so much more of a system seller than stuff like Astral Chain and Xenoblade are.

See, here's the thing... I don't mean system seller in the traditional sense. A system seller can be a critically acclaimed series like Pokemon, Call of Duty, etc. However, I find there are plenty of titles that an individual likes so much that they'd go out and buy a system for it alone. A system seller to you is not gonna be a system seller to me, or someone else. If the next gen Playstation console had a Ys title exclusive to it at launch for example, you bet your ass that's a system seller to me and I'd be picking one up day one. Though, if there's a better term for system seller on an individual level, I'd probably use it instead.

but Astral Chain and Xenoblade are defintely better games than Pokemon.

This is also what we we call a subjective opinion. Some games are someone else's forte, and as such, will be considered better to them subjectively. You can't really put an objective spin on someone's opinion of what game they find to be better. For example, I love Star Fox Zero. I think it's better than Assault. You can bet that a TON of people will highly disagree with me. That does not make either set of people's opinions objective.
And to continue with what Saelune said...

I give zero fucks about Astral Chain and Xeno anything since Xenosaga 1. I am not saying they are bad, I just dont care for those kind of games.

Again, their subjective opinion, which also affects what an individual will call which title a system seller on a personal level. If a typical 'system seller' doesn't interest someone, then another game will probably take its place, your standard "system seller" or not

Saelune:

Yoshi178:

Saelune:
Oh, it came out? I was planning on buying a Switch just for this

Why? there are so many better games on Switch than Pokemon.

I really like Pokemon, enough to buy a console just to play Pokemon, unless they make it utter trash. I got a 3DS to play Pokemon. I usually buy Pokemon games day 1. I have a Pokemon Bank filled with every single Pokemon, including every legendary.

I will wait to see if Animal Crossing will be worth it. I like Zelda, but not enough to buy a console for it. And I already own Skyrim on 360, One, PS3, PS4 and Steam.

Edit: I give zero fucks about Astral Chain and Xeno anything since Xenosaga 1. I am not saying they are bad, I just dont care for those kind of games.

ok.

but there are still loads of games on switch besides the 2 i mentioned that would be better quality than a childrens game about catching monsters. although i will say the Multiplayer aspect of Pokemon seems to have improved the competitive scene alot.

it's just the Pokemon campaign that's garbage and Pokemon campaigns have been garbage for ages now let's be honest. if you expected anything different or better than "just another pokemon game" than i don't know what you were expecting. Pokemon's been rehashing the same stuff for 20 years now they aren't going to suddenly change the formula as drastically as something like what Zelda and Metroid did with BOTW and Metroid Prime

Yoshi178:

Saelune:

Yoshi178:
Why? there are so many better games on Switch than Pokemon.

I really like Pokemon, enough to buy a console just to play Pokemon, unless they make it utter trash. I got a 3DS to play Pokemon. I usually buy Pokemon games day 1. I have a Pokemon Bank filled with every single Pokemon, including every legendary.

I will wait to see if Animal Crossing will be worth it. I like Zelda, but not enough to buy a console for it. And I already own Skyrim on 360, One, PS3, PS4 and Steam.

Edit: I give zero fucks about Astral Chain and Xeno anything since Xenosaga 1. I am not saying they are bad, I just dont care for those kind of games.

ok.

but there are still loads of games on switch besides the 2 i mentioned that would be better quality than a childrens game about catching monsters. although i will say the Multiplayer aspect of Pokemon seems to have improved the competitive scene alot.

it's just the Pokemon campaign that's garbage and Pokemon campaigns have been garbage for ages now let's be honest. if your expected anything different or better than "just another pokemon game" than i don't know what you were expecting. Pokemon's been rehashing the same stuff for 20 years now they aren't going to suddenly change the formula as drastically as something like what Zelda and Metroid did with BOTW and Metroid Prime

I got hundreds of games on Steam to occupy me that dont require me buying a new console. Plenty of games I bought but have yet to get to. I need something worth buying a whole console for, and Pokemon used to be that.

I dont play Pokemon for the story.

Saelune:

I dont play Pokemon for the story.

I play Pokemon to be kinda good
Like some other trainers are
I'd catch them if I could
I wont get very far
I'll stand around catching bugs
I've got nothing to do
Well walk around and act like thugs
and then we'll lose to you!

pokemon (try to catch a few)
It's only me
I dont have a destiny
Pokemon!
Oh, you're not my friend
gotta heal my team again

Pokemon
you're too strong
seriously it's bad news
you fight and I will lose
po-ke-mon!
try to catch a few!

I will challenge everyone
who dares look at my face
Hikers, Lasses, and Fishermen
We're all over the place!
We lock eyes, prepare to fight
my really crappy team
Pidgey, ekans and megnemite
oh god it's hyper beam!

Pok?mon (try to catch a few!)
It's only me
Why must you mess with me?!
Pok?mon!
Oh, I have no friends.
And the fighting never ends!
Pok?mon
I'm a cool guy!
I have a girl friend!
Okay you win, take this TM!

I'm enjoying it. But i might be a little biased because it's set in the UK and i live in Dorset.

Honestly, i like the quality of life improvements, the towns feel lively and i like how Pokemon waddle about in day to day life and actually look like they have an existence outside of forced fights and small cages.

I really, REALLY wish it had voice acting. I cannot tell you how jarring it was to have Rose the announcer guy at the start give this epic presentation about Pokemon... in silence. Meanwhile, the crowd in the stadium is audibly cheering. Then the competitors emerge and taunt each other silently. It's SO jarring. What makes it more annoying is that the characters actually move and are expressive now, so i want to look at what they're doing not reading text on a screen.

Also, Wooloo is best Pokemon and damnit i am going to do the whole gym challenge with my army of Wooloo. Shiny Wooloo included.

Gralian:
I'm enjoying it. But i might be a little biased because it's set in the UK and i live in Dorset.

Honestly, i like the quality of life improvements, the towns feel lively and i like how Pokemon waddle about in day to day life and actually look like they have an existence outside of forced fights and small cages.

I really, REALLY wish it had voice acting. I cannot tell you how jarring it was to have Rose the announcer guy at the start give this epic presentation about Pokemon... in silence. Meanwhile, the crowd in the stadium is audibly cheering. Then the competitors emerge and taunt each other silently. It's SO jarring. What makes it more annoying is that the characters actually move and are expressive now, so i want to look at what they're doing not reading text on a screen.

Also, Wooloo is best Pokemon and damnit i am going to do the whole gym challenge with my army of Wooloo. Shiny Wooloo included.

Tell me. Does the Scottish Pokemon trainer fight for Galraian Independence?/joke.


I stopped caring for Pokemon since Crystal. Plus, I was more of a Digimon guy. More so the shows than the games, but from what I am seeing, the Digimon games have innovated or changes things enough with each new game.

If there is any good thing out of Sword and Shield, it's all those sweet memes and fan comics/art.

I'm enjoying it so far. I like a good number of the new designs (though not the starters), the towns are really cool and some of the music is excellent.

...but there's quite a bit of wasted potential. As the first one on a home console, with more power than they've ever had before, it should be the one to blow me away, and its not. The pokedex is lacking (as everyone now knows), the textures aren't great, the features have been scaled back in some respects. Its still a strong 7/10, because it's such a strong formula to begin with, but there's very little innovation or cause for excitement. It's a bit of a missed opportunity.

Silvanus:
the textures aren't great

Oh boy, seeing blurry textures on a pokeball of all things when i caught something was enough to make my eye physically twitch in discomfort.

No-one needs glossy 4k pokemon or anything, but blurry textures on something that untaxing is kind of unforgivable, especially when the textures in question are not demanding.

CoCage:

If there is any good thing out of Sword and Shield, it's all those sweet memes and fan comics/art.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

However, it has also spawned lewds on google images which need eye bleach to un-see.

You can't even google just Wooloo without seeing it.

Gralian:

Oh boy, seeing blurry textures on a pokeball of all things when i caught something was enough to make my eye physically twitch in discomfort.

No-one needs glossy 4k pokemon or anything, but blurry textures on something that untaxing is kind of unforgivable, especially when the textures in question are not demanding.

It's bizarre. Some of the textures are really good (the floor of the ghost-type arena was intricate & well-textured), and yet others are awful (the trees in the Wild Area look like PS2 trees). I can only assume the game was rushed to make a deadline.

Silvanus:

It's bizarre. Some of the textures are really good (the floor of the ghost-type arena was intricate & well-textured), and yet others are awful (the trees in the Wild Area look like PS2 trees). I can only assume the game was rushed to make a deadline.

I have a feeling that a lot of the games issues are because GameFreak started development of a new pokemon game on 3DS, and Nintendo told them to change it to the Switch, and they simply didn't have the time or know-how to get everything together in time. That would explain the following:

1. The Dex cut
2. The fact that the Wild area is the only area in the game that is any different from any 3DS game area. (I.E. new mechanics and a free camera)
3. The graphical issues.
4. The lackluster animations for attacks on almost every pokemon in the game, doing almost any attack.

It just feels like a first effort to make a full on console game. Now I know they did Pokemon Let's Go, but remember that those games didn't have the same mechanics that a main line Pokemon title would have.

Furthermore, why would they cut mega evolution outright? A whole 3DS mechanic that has been in all games since they released that mechanic. They don't usually cut things, they add things. I can't think of a single Main Pokemon game that has ever cut a feature that was present in the previous games. They've modified things, but they never cut them. Right?

So why this time?

Running out of time is the only thing I can think to justify it.

CritialGaming:

Silvanus:

It's bizarre. Some of the textures are really good (the floor of the ghost-type arena was intricate & well-textured), and yet others are awful (the trees in the Wild Area look like PS2 trees). I can only assume the game was rushed to make a deadline.

I have a feeling that a lot of the games issues are because GameFreak started development of a new pokemon game on 3DS, and Nintendo told them to change it to the Switch, and they simply didn't have the time or know-how to get everything together in time. That would explain the following:

1. The Dex cut
2. The fact that the Wild area is the only area in the game that is any different from any 3DS game area. (I.E. new mechanics and a free camera)
3. The graphical issues.
4. The lackluster animations for attacks on almost every pokemon in the game, doing almost any attack.

It just feels like a first effort to make a full on console game. Now I know they did Pokemon Let's Go, but remember that those games didn't have the same mechanics that a main line Pokemon title would have.

Furthermore, why would they cut mega evolution outright? A whole 3DS mechanic that has been in all games since they released that mechanic. They don't usually cut things, they add things. I can't think of a single Main Pokemon game that has ever cut a feature that was present in the previous games. They've modified things, but they never cut them. Right?

So why this time?

Running out of time is the only thing I can think to justify it.

i'm pretty sure the Pokemon Company would have been the one to rush Game Freak to get these games out. they want to keep the pokemon games coming out in line with the Anime's and merchandise don't forget.

and as we've seen Nintendo is more than happy to delay games with Zelda BOTW, Metroid Prime, Bayonetta and Animal crossing all falling victim to being delayed.

Blame the Pokemon Company for Game Freak being rushed here.

CritialGaming:

Furthermore, why would they cut mega evolution outright? A whole 3DS mechanic that has been in all games since they released that mechanic. They don't usually cut things, they add things. I can't think of a single Main Pokemon game that has ever cut a feature that was present in the previous games. They've modified things, but they never cut them. Right?

They've occasionally cut mechanics (like swarms/outbreaks which were cut in Gen 6, or DexNav which was great but only present in Alpha Ruby/ Omega Sapphire). Still, these aren't as big or notable as Mega Evolutions. It's a shame; Dynamax seems to be intended as a replacement, but it's just not as interesting.

Silvanus:

They've occasionally cut mechanics (like swarms/outbreaks which were cut in Gen 6, or DexNav which was great but only present in Alpha Ruby/ Omega Sapphire). Still, these aren't as big or notable as Mega Evolutions. It's a shame; Dynamax seems to be intended as a replacement, but it's just not as interesting.

I guess, but those mechanics weren't actually ever full on features. They were kind of side things that I would equate to mini-games in other RPG's. Like are beauty contests still a thing? 3-way battling?

Dynamaxing is fucking dumb. For a couple of reasons.

1. Unlike Mega-evolution, you can't dynamax everywhere.
2. Unlike Mega-evolutions, when you do dynamax, you're moves all change out to be generic Max-type moves. "Max Fire" or "Max Water" etc. Which is obviously because they couldn't animation all the moves into the huge-boy form.
3. Unlike Mega-evolutions, dynamax doesn't change the Pokemon's form or typing. With only a couple notible exceptions like Gengar who becomes like a Cave of wonders from Aladin.

Basically, Dynamaxing is inferior to Mega Evolutions in every single conceivable way.

Also I just want to bitch for a moment about how much I fucking hate Nintendo for trying to force me into buying their shit online service. You can wonder-trade without it and I HATE IT! I just wanna wonder trade and I'm not buying a huge online service pass to do that shit.

Look you wanna have the service be required for deliberate trading, online battling, raid battles with players, fucking fine. But a blind rando trade? Come on you gotta give people SOMETHING right? Fucking bullshit.

CritialGaming:

Silvanus:

It's bizarre. Some of the textures are really good (the floor of the ghost-type arena was intricate & well-textured), and yet others are awful (the trees in the Wild Area look like PS2 trees). I can only assume the game was rushed to make a deadline.

I have a feeling that a lot of the games issues are because GameFreak started development of a new pokemon game on 3DS, and Nintendo told them to change it to the Switch, and they simply didn't have the time or know-how to get everything together in time. That would explain the following:

1. The Dex cut
2. The fact that the Wild area is the only area in the game that is any different from any 3DS game area. (I.E. new mechanics and a free camera)
3. The graphical issues.
4. The lackluster animations for attacks on almost every pokemon in the game, doing almost any attack.

It just feels like a first effort to make a full on console game. Now I know they did Pokemon Let's Go, but remember that those games didn't have the same mechanics that a main line Pokemon title would have.

Furthermore, why would they cut mega evolution outright? A whole 3DS mechanic that has been in all games since they released that mechanic. They don't usually cut things, they add things. I can't think of a single Main Pokemon game that has ever cut a feature that was present in the previous games. They've modified things, but they never cut them. Right?

So why this time?

Running out of time is the only thing I can think to justify it.

I didn't think about how Gamefreak would have been forced to shift focus from 3ds / handheld to home console mid production, i guess that would make sense in regards to the uneven quality. Having said that though the switch is nearly 3 years old. Additionally, devs are given devkits to work on games far ahead of the console's given release date, not only that but Nintendo must have announced privately that the 3ds was on its deathbed. I can't believe they would have let development continue so long only to do a heel-point-turn

I only wondered if production was rushed specifically to meet the Christmas deadline, which would make more sense.

Personally speaking, and i know this is controversial, but i couldn't care less about the national dex business. I never caught them all, i never got both versions of the game and didn't have any direct friends to trade with. I was only in it for the journey, to beat the fantastic four with my favourite pokemon team (even if they weren't the "best" in terms of meta) and call it a day. So it doesn't affect me too much. I do like the majority of the new gen, really didn't like the starters though.

CritialGaming:

Silvanus:

They've occasionally cut mechanics (like swarms/outbreaks which were cut in Gen 6, or DexNav which was great but only present in Alpha Ruby/ Omega Sapphire). Still, these aren't as big or notable as Mega Evolutions. It's a shame; Dynamax seems to be intended as a replacement, but it's just not as interesting.

I guess, but those mechanics weren't actually ever full on features. They were kind of side things that I would equate to mini-games in other RPG's. Like are beauty contests still a thing? 3-way battling?

Dynamaxing is fucking dumb. For a couple of reasons.

1. Unlike Mega-evolution, you can't dynamax everywhere.
2. Unlike Mega-evolutions, when you do dynamax, you're moves all change out to be generic Max-type moves. "Max Fire" or "Max Water" etc. Which is obviously because they couldn't animation all the moves into the huge-boy form.
3. Unlike Mega-evolutions, dynamax doesn't change the Pokemon's form or typing. With only a couple notible exceptions like Gengar who becomes like a Cave of wonders from Aladin.

Basically, Dynamaxing is inferior to Mega Evolutions in every single conceivable way.

Also I just want to bitch for a moment about how much I fucking hate Nintendo for trying to force me into buying their shit online service. You can wonder-trade without it and I HATE IT! I just wanna wonder trade and I'm not buying a huge online service pass to do that shit.

Look you wanna have the service be required for deliberate trading, online battling, raid battles with players, fucking fine. But a blind rando trade? Come on you gotta give people SOMETHING right? Fucking bullshit.

In regards to mega evolution being cut, i can see it sort of makes sense when you consider both Dynamaxing AND gigantamaxing, i just think it would create too much "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM KAKAROOOOOOTTTTT!!111" in both PvE and PvP scenarios. Something's gotta give and they have to at least try to look innovative. I do agree about the type changing and move changing aspect being important though, it sucks that has been lost.

The Nintendo online thing... yeah, that's a ball ache. To be honest, for the sake of ?17.99 for the year i just went along with it mainly for the one time when all planets are perfectly aligned and i play smash or mk8 online, or for the fun meta aspects of say Fire Emblem 3 Houses with online functionality, or for Daemon X Machina. I don't feel that ?17.99 is enough to worry about so i just went along with it but it is annoying to feel brow-beaten into doing something. It feels more like an obligation than a desirable service.

CritialGaming:

Also I just want to bitch for a moment about how much I fucking hate Nintendo for trying to force me into buying their shit online service. You can wonder-trade without it and I HATE IT! I just wanna wonder trade and I'm not buying a huge online service pass to do that shit.

you could say that about literally any of the console online service's though.

"i just want to play Uncharted or Halo with my friends and i'm not a buying huge online service pass just to do that shit in 1 game!"

at least Nintendo's online is still cheaper than what the others make you pay each year.

CritialGaming:

Dynamaxing is fucking dumb. For a couple of reasons.

1. Unlike Mega-evolution, you can't dynamax everywhere.
2. Unlike Mega-evolutions, when you do dynamax, you're moves all change out to be generic Max-type moves. "Max Fire" or "Max Water" etc. Which is obviously because they couldn't animation all the moves into the huge-boy form.
3. Unlike Mega-evolutions, dynamax doesn't change the Pokemon's form or typing. With only a couple notible exceptions like Gengar who becomes like a Cave of wonders from Aladin.

Basically, Dynamaxing is inferior to Mega Evolutions in every single conceivable way.

Also I just want to bitch for a moment about how much I fucking hate Nintendo for trying to force me into buying their shit online service. You can wonder-trade without it and I HATE IT! I just wanna wonder trade and I'm not buying a huge online service pass to do that shit.

Look you wanna have the service be required for deliberate trading, online battling, raid battles with players, fucking fine. But a blind rando trade? Come on you gotta give people SOMETHING right? Fucking bullshit.

Yeah, I have to agree. Dynamax is no replacement for mega evolution. I think they wanted something with scale in order to show off what a home console can bring to the table... but it's so much shallower than mega-evolution. They should've stuck with megas and expanded on the concept.

Yoshi178:

CritialGaming:

Also I just want to bitch for a moment about how much I fucking hate Nintendo for trying to force me into buying their shit online service. You can wonder-trade without it and I HATE IT! I just wanna wonder trade and I'm not buying a huge online service pass to do that shit.

you could say that about literally any of the console online service's though.

"i just want to play Uncharted or Halo with my friends and i'm not a buying huge online service pass just to do that shit in 1 game!"

at least Nintendo's online is still cheaper than what the others make you pay each year.

That's not true though.

Playstation allows you to play online in Souls games. Not with other players, but you can get messages and rate and have partial functionality with the online systems without paying for the service. Death's Stranding will use your online connection to population player build items and left vehicles. This applies to a lot of other games that have partial online requirements.

I would have liked Pokemon to give partial online service especially since we've been using online services in pokemon for free since forever.

I get why they do it. I just don't like it.

I am enjoying it so far but it is definitely not the console debut that we had all envisioned for the franchise back in the late 90's. Game Freak is very clearly a handheld game dev still.

 

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