The DOOM Eternal review thread

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Not so fast...the gates open at 10AM tomorrow, March 17th (fitting since Doomslayer's outfit is green, ha).

Also, as a preemptive strike to the inevitable crunch topic.

Anyways, let's make some predictions!

I'll start with a solid 90 Meta.

If you are interested Joe Rogan did a podcast with the Creative Director of ID software to promote Doom Eternal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzUuvAa2jPY&t=1s

I'm guessing it'll be either outstanding, breathtaking, a true masterpiece, Doom at its best, great, okay, mediocre, disappointing, broken or a complete mess.

Ugh, dammit, I'm still working my way through Borderlands 3 and Black Mesa. I'm not ready for Doom Eternal yet, delay it for another week.

Worgen:
Ugh, dammit, I'm still working my way through Borderlands 3 and Black Mesa. I'm not ready for Doom Eternal yet, delay it for another week.

No more delays! I've been playing Granblue Fantasy VS. Once Doom Eternal comes out, it's this and GF are the only things I am really going to focus on for a long while.

CritialGaming:
If you are interested Joe Rogan did a podcast with the Creative Director of ID software to promote Doom Eternal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzUuvAa2jPY&t=1s

Yup, watched it. Funny how Rogan can sound both condescending and stoked about something at the same time. It kinda seems like he could be an armchair gamer, or backseat gamer.

Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Why curious, we already know which one you want to win, thus your obligatory injection of Nintendo into every single possible thread on this site.

So far I'm spot-on!

Almost certainly that will change one way or another though.

Also one of the best things I've read about one area I was most concerned about -

A Fortress of Doom hub (which I call the "Doom Room") allows for a bit of respite and a way to store your collectibles between missions, like a fun interactive "next mission" menu. It's kind of like Mortal Kombat's Krypt but without the microtransaction baggage.

I didn't even have much of a problem with MK11's Krypts as I never wanted or needed to use MTX's there, but it sounds like this could be even less grindy feeling in terms of reaping significant rewards.

Best review.

Claim its greatest FPS ever made.

I also like this review.

Game sounds pretty outstanding.

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

I say this with no horse in the race as I have no interest in either game. But so long as they both review well and people who buy the games like them, does it really matter?

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Nobody but you cares, Yoshi. Both games are going to be fine regardless. Metacritic scores don't mean shit.

i don't see the point. everyone's already decided it's the greatest thing since diced conservative and any reviewer or person that says the slightest hint otherwise must be a cynical contrarian naysayer looking for clikcbait. people want their confirmation bias and bugger all else. a recent positive review I happened upon for this had these wealth of highest voted comments moaning that it wasn't positive enough god damn it. the reviewer was gushing for sure, but because the level of gushing was deemed insufficient, peoples don't like it. and if that's the mindset the hyped majority go into reviews with, then reviews are redundant and interest in them is a dumb farce. they only want total validation

CritialGaming:

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Why curious, we already know which one you want to win, thus your obligatory injection of Nintendo into every single possible thread on this site.

CoCage:

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Nobody but you cares, Yoshi. Both games are going to be fine regardless. Metacritic scores don't mean shit.

Yeah people totally haven't been celebrating and memeing Isabelle and Doomslayer around the internet together. i mean it's not like they release on the same day or anything.

anyway i guess you guys are right. Escapist members like you guys only play Mature rated games for Hardcore Gamers such as yourselves.

Catfood220:

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

I say this with no horse in the race as I have no interest in either game. But so long as they both review well and people who buy the games like them, does it really matter?

Yoshi178:

Yeah people totally haven't been celebrating and memeing Isabelle and Doomslayer around the internet together. i mean it's not like they release on the same day or anything.

No shit, Sherelock. The memes between Animal Cross & Doom fans is old news. I'm glad both parties are getting along great. What the fuck that got to do with metacritic? I don't use metacritic to validate my opinion on a movie or game. Most of the info there ain't worth much. Metacritic is useful some of the time, but I'm old enough to judge for myself.

anyway i guess you guys are right. Escapist members like you guys only play Mature rated games for Hardcore Gamers such as yourselves.

1. You don't even know a quarter of my tastes. You don't know shit, so don't put words in my mouth and act like you know everything about everyone.

2. I'm an all variety gamer. Some genres I don't care or like, but as long as the game ain't going out its way to screw over the consumer/player, I have respect for the product and the people behind it.

3. Never once did I called you "kiddie" for liking anything Nintendo or associate you that way. There are games for everyone or somebody at any age. Though you do sound exactly what an immature kid or teen would respond in such a butt hurt manner. Once again, this is why I don't take you seriously most of the time. Do me a solid and learn to read and think before you speak. Or type in this case.

So a certain game arrived in the mail for me today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbIBs0P2t0

Though actually it was more like 9 rather than 11, and not at night, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_cdqQHGA8

Hawki:
So a certain game arrived in the mail for me today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbIBs0P2t0

Though actually it was more like 9 rather than 11, and not at night, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_cdqQHGA8

Glad you got yours early! Enjoy, Hawki!

CoCage:

Hawki:
So a certain game arrived in the mail for me today...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbIBs0P2t0

Though actually it was more like 9 rather than 11, and not at night, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw_cdqQHGA8

Glad you got yours early! Enjoy, Hawki!

Hope so.

I'll probably start playing it tomorrow - Wednesday/Thursday is effectively my weekend due to how my hours are structured, so I should be able to get a good run tomorrow (not starting today for various reasons). I'll post my thoughts when I get round to it.

That's ok Cocage i stopped taking you seriously awhile ago too.

If you weren't so insecure with yourself you wouldn't always be so aggressive all the time so it's ok i understand :3

Yoshi178:
That's ok Cocage i stopped taking you seriously awhile ago too.

If you weren't so insecure with yourself you wouldn't always be so aggressive all the time so it's ok i understand :3

Good to know you're referring to yourself and admitting your problems. Now, you gonna talk about things related to Doom Eternal or waste everyone's time shooting the shit about nothing?

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Not Meta but -
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Yoshi178:

Catfood220:

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

I say this with no horse in the race as I have no interest in either game. But so long as they both review well and people who buy the games like them, does it really matter?

That was cute but it didn't answer my question. It even seems to say "lets enjoy both games".

But it did remind me of the dream I had where my Animal Crossing village got destroyed by the aliens from that Mario and Luigi game (I forget the name). Apparently it was a yearly event.

I've been going through the series in preperation. A whole marathon of the Doom series (I'm using Brutal Doom though as a base for Doom 1, 2, and Doom 64).
I'm just about finished with Doom 64, then I'll play Doom 3, then Doom 2016, and finally move on to Eternal.

I figured a Doom marathon would get me into the shoes of the Doom Guy better. A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

DeliveryGodNoah:
A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

You're overthinking it. He's just a guy who loves killing demons.

Anyways, Doom 2016 was a pretty good game, but I didn't think that it was THAT special. This, however, looks absolutely fuckin' amazing.

Adam Jensen:

DeliveryGodNoah:
A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

You're overthinking it. He's just a guy who loves killing demons.

Anyways, Doom 2016 was a pretty good game, but I didn't think that it was THAT special. This, however, looks absolutely fuckin' amazing.

This and Black mesa actually made the year 2020 for me.

B-Cell:

Adam Jensen:

DeliveryGodNoah:
A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

You're overthinking it. He's just a guy who loves killing demons.

Anyways, Doom 2016 was a pretty good game, but I didn't think that it was THAT special. This, however, looks absolutely fuckin' amazing.

This and Black mesa actually made the year 2020 for me.

i thought Doom anything was your GOTY?

hanselthecaretaker:

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Not Meta but -
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at least you get it. unlike some people in this thread....

Gamexplain does a cool thing at the end of their Doom review as well lol

Adam Jensen:

DeliveryGodNoah:
A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

You're overthinking it. He's just a guy who loves killing demons.

While that may be giving Id too much credit, I think that's a valid interpretation.

hanselthecaretaker:

Yoshi178:
Animal Crossing got a total Metacritic score of 91/100

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/animal-crossing-new-horizons

curious which March 20th game will have the higher Metacritic score out of Doom Eternal and AC

Not Meta but -
image

Funny as that is, I don't think anyone is that surprised. Still great though. Thanks.

Adam Jensen:

DeliveryGodNoah:
A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

You're overthinking it. He's just a guy who loves killing demons.

Actually, DeliveryGodNoah had a pretty good angle on him. There is a fair amount of characterization in Doom 1 & 2 that is completely skipped over in more recent games that do indeed paint him in such a light. In Doom 1 we learn that the whole reason he was sequestered to UAC was after being drummed out of the marines after assaulting a superior officer after they ordered his squad to fire on civilians, painting him as a man of conscience and not just a blood-thirsty murderer. In Doom 2 the comment is made that "You stopped the invasion, saved Mars base, and became a war hero. What they don't talk about so much is that you were the only survivor." hinting at emotional scarring and PTSD. Ultimate Doom takes it one step further, out-and-out stating that the demons still "haunt your nightmares". Only in more recent times has Doomguy been stripped of his humanity to become this frag-happy demon-hunting sadist.

Grouchy Imp:
There is a fair amount of characterization in Doom 1 & 2 that is completely skipped over in more recent games that do indeed paint him in such a light. In Doom 1 we learn that the whole reason he was sequestered to UAC was after being drummed out of the marines after assaulting a superior officer after they ordered his squad to fire on civilians, painting him as a man of conscience and not just a blood-thirsty murderer. In Doom 2 the comment is made that "You stopped the invasion, saved Mars base, and became a war hero. What they don't talk about so much is that you were the only survivor." hinting at emotional scarring and PTSD. Ultimate Doom takes it one step further, out-and-out stating that the demons still "haunt your nightmares". Only in more recent times has Doomguy been stripped of his humanity to become this frag-happy demon-hunting sadist.

The Doomguy assaulting his CO and being banished to Mars doesn't contradict the personality the early games give him, but I'd argue that PTSD kinda does. What's that you say? Personality? Well, yeah, the Doomguy does get some characterization in the games, if only through the movement of his head on the HUD. Sparse as it is, we can deduce that he's alert and unfazed (the way his eyes keep darting) and that he enjoys the carnage (the way he grins when he gets certain items). Really, there's nothing in the early games to suggest that the Doomguy is scarred at all, unless you interpret the ending of Doom 64 as him giving into madness or something.

Even that aside, him being a scarred survivour can segway into Doom 2016 nicely. I mean, this is a guy who fought demons across four games, before spending the rest of his days staying in Hell, before ending up in a parallel universe and really not giving much of a shit about anything except killing demons. I mean, don't get me wrong, the personality of the Doom Slayer is still sparse, but I can see how he gets from Point A (Doom Vanilla) to Point...I dunno, E? (Doom 2016).

Adam Jensen:

DeliveryGodNoah:
A tired, callus, bloody thirsty, and possibly mentally broken, man who has seen nearly unending Hell.

You're overthinking it. He's just a guy who loves killing demons.

Anyways, Doom 2016 was a pretty good game, but I didn't think that it was THAT special. This, however, looks absolutely fuckin' amazing.

To be fair, we never really get all that much feedback of the Doom Guys psyche. This has always just been my interpretation of him. Sure, he might get an enjoyable thrill out of slaughtering thousands of demons now that he's done it over and over again, but there's got to be some kind of psychological damage from it considering nearly every ending text in the first two games states how he feels he's finally "done" and "won" against the forces of hell, only to find that there's still another invasion anyway and he has to get right back to work.

But you're just as free to interpret him as a guy who has always and will always love killing demons just as much as I'm free to overthink it and interpret him as a guy who simply pushed through the first invasion or so, but after multiple times seeing his work be almost for nothing, finally broke mentally in a way that convinced himself he enjoys it just so he would always keep doing it.

Review from ACG.

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