PS4 Launch Titles are (Surprisingly) not getting good reviews

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In a sudden and Surprising turn of events, a number of PS4 Exclusives are getting mediocre to terrible reviews. Knack, a platformer exclusive to the PS4 which was meant to for kids, currently averages a 59 On Metacritic, with GameInformer giving it it's highest score of 83, and Joystiq giving the worst score of 30. Now, one can argue that since Knack was new and since no one had really been able to play it, these kinds of reviews weren't necessarily surprising for Knack. However, what is surprising is the main highlight of the PS4 Launch; Killzone: Shadow Fall. That's right, even Killzone: Shadow Fall is getting mixed reception from major Game Reviews; Scoring an average of 74. By Contrast, the previous game in the series, Killzone 3, Got an 84 from Proffesional Reviewers, 10 points higher then K:SF.

So what do you think? Do you think that maybe Sony rushed the Playstation 4 and their games? Do you think these Reviewers might be wrong or unimportant, and that people should still get these games? Share your thoughts!

Suprising? lol no, remember every other launch titles? Yeah, those really were the pinnacle of their respective consoles...

The smart thing here would be not being a complete idiot and wait for about 2 years after release to get the console cheaper with a better variety of cheaper games and actual games that were intended to be more then tech demos (and avoid the typical bugs and glitches of the system).

I played the Knack demo at a convention and it was garbage. Not surprising at all. Doing anything in the game felt unbelievably slow and clunky.

Launch games, let's be honest, are usually kind of bad. It just seems like reviewers are being more honest about it this time around.

As long as Infamous: Second Son is good then I can live with these two games being bad.

Killzone was never that great of a game, just had amazing grpahics. I've never even heard of knack. But then again I'm not planning on buying any of these consoles anytime soon and will just wait until we get more games and bug fixes.

In what world is a 74 a bad game? If a game that I'm interested in has a score like 74 then it tells me that I should still check it out.

They're launch titles. As such, they were probably devised to be little more than tech demos at the end of the day, especially Knack. I'm not really that surprised they're not getting amazing reviews. I'm still picking up Killzone though. Hopefully, it will finally fix the gripes I've had with the story.

So why did so many pre-order a PS4 knowing that launch titles suck?

WeepingAngels:
So why did so many pre-order a PS4 knowing that launch titles suck?

Because they are idiots that need to have the new shiny gadget. There are still a shitload of games coming to this gen, some even exclusive like Dark Souls 2 or Gran Turismo 6.

How is that surprising? It's an entirely new system after 8 years and launch exclusives are nothing new or exciting. Knack wasn't even that hyped and no one cared for it, and Killzone is jut another sci-fi FPS that's not even a new IP. You need a lot better than that to launch a next-gen console. Even though I prefer the PS4 as a system, the Xbone has a stronger lineup of launch titles. That's just a fact.

josemlopes:

WeepingAngels:
So why did so many pre-order a PS4 knowing that launch titles suck?

Because they are idiots that need to have the new shiny gadget. There are still a shitload of games coming to this gen, some even exclusive like Dark Souls 2 or Gran Turismo 6.

Right... Because no one should buy a launch console, so it can burn... People do realize that SOMEONE needs to buy a console at launch. If no one did, it would die... Do people not understand this?

I agree with Hazy992, a metacritic score of 74 is not bad at all. In reality its probably a realistic score for a game when lately it seems everything is either a 10 or a 2.

First party titles are usually not the same quality as games a year or two down the road from a system launch, but Killzone played quite well when I got to fiddle with it, so if you are a fan of the series you will most likely enjoy this game.

I have not been looking to much into Knack mainly because I am not to interested in it at this time. Crash Bandicoot style aside, I am looking for something a bit more viseral and violent in my first couple of titles on PS4

Korten12:
Right... Because no one should buy a launch console, so it can burn... People do realize that SOMEONE needs to buy a console at launch. If no one did, it would die... Do people not understand this?

I understand that, so I'm picking one up tomorrow at midnight. I like the direction that Sony seems to be heading in, and while the launch seems like it will be a little rough I'm confident I won't regret the investment down the line. But according to some people that makes me an idiot.

Killzone will be fine even if it just a prettier version of games I've played before, and Battlefield 4 will tide me over until some of the real substantial games start coming out next year. I'm not leaving my PS3 behind, because I'm still going to get free games for it from PS Plus, and there are a bunch of games still coming out for it.

All in all I see a lot of good gaming in my future.

Wait what? from what I have been reading today most seem to really like Shadow Fall.

Launch games are always not great.

Knack had 'show off next-gen tech' written all over it from the moment footage was released. And Killzone is... well, it's Killzone; It only exists because Halo exists (a title that itself has fallen out of grace). Every new console goes through this.

The first game I'll be playing on the PS4 is probably Assassin's Creed 4 anyway.

Mr.Mattress:
In a sudden and Surprising turn of events, a number of PS4 Exclusives are getting mediocre to terrible reviews. Knack, a platformer exclusive to the PS4 which was meant to for kids, currently averages a 59 On Metacritic, with GameInformer giving it it's highest score of 83, and Joystiq giving the worst score of 30. Now, one can argue that since Knack was new and since no one had really been able to play it, these kinds of reviews weren't necessarily surprising for Knack. However, what is surprising is the main highlight of the PS4 Launch; Killzone: Shadow Fall. That's right, even Killzone: Shadow Fall is getting mixed reception from major Game Reviews; Scoring an average of 74. By Contrast, the previous game in the series, Killzone 3, Got an 84 from Proffesional Reviewers, 10 points higher then K:SF.

So what do you think? Do you think that maybe Sony rushed the Playstation 4 and their games? Do you think these Reviewers might be wrong or unimportant, and that people should still get these games? Share your thoughts!

50 is an average game. 59 is slightly above average. 74 is a good game score.

What in the hell has gone wrong with everyone thinking that a 74 is a bad game? These aren't GREAT games, but they are *good*. That is what those scores tell us.

I want to slap you for thinking 74 is a bad score. Seriously, come here so I can pull on your ear and slap you. Damn I feel old now.

@Jimothy Sterling, Get in here and yell at these people!

Ponyholder:

50 is an average game. 59 is slightly above average. 74 is a good game score.

What in the hell has gone wrong with everyone thinking that a 74 is a bad game? These aren't GREAT games, but they are *good*. That is what those scores tell us.

I want to slap you for thinking 74 is a bad score. Seriously, come here so I can pull on your ear and slap you. Damn I feel old now.

@Jimothy Sterling, Get in here and yell at these people!

For most people it works like this...

0 - 49 - Worse than Hitler, 50 - 59 - Literally Hitler, 60 - 69 - Bad, 70 - 79 is meh, 80 - 89 - Decent, 90 - 100 - Good/Amazing.

A bit extreme with the lower numbers but it's sort of become like that.

Ponyholder:

Mr.Mattress:
In a sudden and Surprising turn of events, a number of PS4 Exclusives are getting mediocre to terrible reviews. Knack, a platformer exclusive to the PS4 which was meant to for kids, currently averages a 59 On Metacritic, with GameInformer giving it it's highest score of 83, and Joystiq giving the worst score of 30. Now, one can argue that since Knack was new and since no one had really been able to play it, these kinds of reviews weren't necessarily surprising for Knack. However, what is surprising is the main highlight of the PS4 Launch; Killzone: Shadow Fall. That's right, even Killzone: Shadow Fall is getting mixed reception from major Game Reviews; Scoring an average of 74. By Contrast, the previous game in the series, Killzone 3, Got an 84 from Proffesional Reviewers, 10 points higher then K:SF.

So what do you think? Do you think that maybe Sony rushed the Playstation 4 and their games? Do you think these Reviewers might be wrong or unimportant, and that people should still get these games? Share your thoughts!

50 is an average game. 59 is slightly above average. 74 is a good game score.

What in the hell has gone wrong with everyone thinking that a 74 is a bad game? These aren't GREAT games, but they are *good*. That is what those scores tell us.

I want to slap you for thinking 74 is a bad score. Seriously, come here so I can pull on your ear and slap you. Damn I feel old now.

@Jimothy Sterling, Get in here and yell at these people!

Except people don't see 50 as an average. I postulate this s largely due to most of the world's education institutions grading systems being instilled in us from birth.

Around here if you get a 49 in a class you've failed and have to do it over again. Thus we see a 50 as more or less basically a failure. Anything less than 50 doesn't matter because an F is an F. Most people here would view 70 - 75 as about an average.

I'm not saying it's sensible or logical to equate school grades with game scores, but I'm pretty sure most people do it without even thinking about it.

They're launch titles, of course they aren't going to be received well. Which console has had a good start/decent launch titles? I've heard that the Dreamcast did but we all know how that turned out.

Does anyone remember Kameo : Elements of Power?

Didn't think so.

One gets the impression that launch titles are either multiplats or just there to plug the gap between the first big releases. Bit flawed, really.

Korten12:

josemlopes:

WeepingAngels:
So why did so many pre-order a PS4 knowing that launch titles suck?

Because they are idiots that need to have the new shiny gadget. There are still a shitload of games coming to this gen, some even exclusive like Dark Souls 2 or Gran Turismo 6.

Right... Because no one should buy a launch console, so it can burn... People do realize that SOMEONE needs to buy a console at launch. If no one did, it would die... Do people not understand this?

...or maybe companies would realize that they shouldn't launch until they have a good launch lineup. You're probably right though, consoles makers would rather throw in the towel.

Pink Gregory:
Does anyone remember Kameo : Elements of Power?

Didn't think so.

One gets the impression that launch titles are either multiplats or just there to plug the gap between the first big releases. Bit flawed, really.

I remember Kameo, tried several times to play the damn thing. Terrible game.

I agree with many of the response in the thread, they're launch games and they never really set the world ablaze. Not to mention that if 74 is considered bad, then that's really sad. I guess that means I have bad tastes in games since I like Wonderful 101 and that has a 78 on Metacritic and I love Sonic Lost World on both the Wii U and 3DS, and they've got a 63 and 60 on Metacritic.
Now I don't like shooters much, so I won't be getting Killzone even if it was God's gift from the heavens. I'm still gonna get Knack though since it interests me.

Mediocre to terrible is... 74 and 59. Scores which indicate "Pretty good" and "above average".

Even so, not that surprising. Did any console have a positive launch?

hazabaza1:
Mediocre to terrible is... 74 and 59. Scores which indicate "Pretty good" and "above average".

Even so, not that surprising. Did any console have a positive launch?

If you want to count the SNES with Super Mario World and the N64 with Super Mario 64 then yes. Of course, it still makes me wonder about people who pre-ordered knowing the launch games were going to be crap.

Wish I had an extra $400+ laying around to waste on game hardware without worthy games.

I was just over at Destructoid, where Shadows Fall had a 9 and Knack a 7. These are launch games for a new console so you really can't expect too much from any of them really. Launch games in the past have been damn-near legendary but it doesn't seem so when it came to the past couple of generations. Anyway, I feel somewhat more justified in waiting for my PS4. This does make me really curious about how well (or not) the XBone80 exclusives (be they timed or not) will fare.

I guess people were just expecting something more, I was too but this doesn't turn me away from the game. Most of the reviews I seen have all agreed that the plays well most complaints about the story and a few specific levels.

hazabaza1:
Mediocre to terrible is... 74 and 59. Scores which indicate "Pretty good" and "above average".

Even so, not that surprising. Did any console have a positive launch?

The playstation 1 had the most successful launch of any console I can remember in my lifetime, the ps2 didn't do too bad either.

Anyways if xbox gets a string of 90+ reviews for its own launch titles, it might make up a bit of lost ground it seems.

Frankster:

hazabaza1:
Mediocre to terrible is... 74 and 59. Scores which indicate "Pretty good" and "above average".

Even so, not that surprising. Did any console have a positive launch?

The playstation 1 had the most successful launch of any console I can remember in my lifetime, the ps2 didn't do too bad either.

Anyways if xbox gets a string of 90+ reviews for its own launch titles, it might make up a bit of lost ground it seems.

Really? I thought the PS1 didn't really get popular until FF7 in 1997, 2 years after launch. The PS1 had a better launch than the Wii?

josemlopes:

WeepingAngels:
So why did so many pre-order a PS4 knowing that launch titles suck?

Because they are idiots that need to have the new shiny gadget. There are still a shitload of games coming to this gen, some even exclusive like Dark Souls 2 or Gran Turismo 6.

I heard that if you preorder a PS4 now in some countires, it will take until May next year to actually get the console. It sounds to me more like people that want a game that comes out between now and May some time but don't want to wait for new stock of PS4 to be able to play it.

But you're probably right. Every person ever that ever preordered a PS4 must not have any insentive to do so. They must just be blithering idiots. Because buying a PS4 now must lock them out of the ability to play any games coming out on the PS3.

WeepingAngels:

Really? I thought the PS1 didn't really get popular until FF7 in 1997, 2 years after launch. The PS1 had a better launch than the Wii?

The year of the ff7/tomb raider combo release (also maybe metal gear? maybe its memory playing tricks but feel like they all came out close to each other) did seal playstation dominance but I remember being totally wowed by the ps1 launch, not least cos of the fancy 3d graphics.

Ps1 launch had ridge racer, wipeout (which was a REALLY big deal at the time, heck when sequel wipeout 2097 came out, it was played in nightclubs...), rayman, tekken, ace combat and so many more... I remember feeling a bit like a kid in a candy store.

That said I wouldn't say it had a better launch then the Wii xD Ok I take it back, maybe not one of the most succesful launches (althought it felt that way at the time, buzz about ps1 was universally positive), but it was still a positive launch with some great lineup titles!

Honestly, I'm getting the PS4 for Infamous, followed by Destiny. Followed closely by future titles that I can't even imagine right now.

Also, I looked at Metacritic. Killzone has 10 positive reviews all scoring it at 80, 85, or 90. With 8 mixed reviews most scoring it as a 70. The one that scored it as a 50 (looks to be a 5 out of 10) seems more upset over story elements, "lack of innovation", and seemed to be more pissed at having to play the game than anything in the game. There's literally a tweet of the author of said review effectively begging to not have to review Killzone. Me thinks he may not be unbiased.

I'm not going to defend it, as I haven't played it (despite having a copy sitting on my desk right next to me), but I really doubt Killzone is any worse than CoD. I'll be mostly playing it for multiplayer and to tide me over till Infamous hits the shelves. So worse case scenario, it's not the best game I ever played, but it's liveable.

Anyone else get the feeling OP pre-ordered the XBONE and is attacking the PS4 to make OP feel better about his or her purchasing decisions? Because I'm reading quite a lot of bias such as claiming that everybody knew all ps4 games were going to be awful before them having actually come out.
I hope your xbox one RROD's on you when you get it just as karma for your pointless bias

josemlopes:

WeepingAngels:
So why did so many pre-order a PS4 knowing that launch titles suck?

Because they are idiots that need to have the new shiny gadget. There are still a shitload of games coming to this gen, some even exclusive like Dark Souls 2 or Gran Turismo 6.

Erm, DS2 isn't exlusive.
Unless you mean exclusive to the (now-current) gen of consoles, in which case I'd like to point out that the amount of money I will/have had to drop to upgrade my gaming setup in order to be able to play DS2 once it comes out is... 0$
#pc

WeepingAngels:

Pink Gregory:
Does anyone remember Kameo : Elements of Power?

Didn't think so.

One gets the impression that launch titles are either multiplats or just there to plug the gap between the first big releases. Bit flawed, really.

I remember Kameo, tried several times to play the damn thing. Terrible game.

HEY! I rather enjoyed it..!
just for the flying tho. It was bad

Hazy992:
In what world is a 74 a bad game? If a game that I'm interested in has a score like 74 then it tells me that I should still check it out.

Yeah, but this is the 8 out of 10 or GTFO world we live in, in which the uninformed consumer won't touch anythng less than an 8/10.

Deshara:
Anyone else get the feeling OP pre-ordered the XBONE and is attacking the PS4 to make OP feel better about his or her purchasing decisions? Because I'm reading quite a lot of bias such as claiming that everybody knew all ps4 games were going to be awful before them having actually come out.
I hope your xbox one RROD's on you when you get it just as karma for your pointless bias

Sorry, I didn't preorder an XBone. In fact, I've been very vocal against it, even when it dropped it's whole "We'll spy on you and screw you over!" requirements.

A lot of people on other forums have been saying that these kind of reviews aren't good though. I just thought I'd share it here. I'm sorry if I came off "Biased".

Who the hell is surprised by this? Killzone has done pretty well for a launch title. I noticed today Ghosts metascore has actually fallen now to be the same as Killzone.
The Xbone will probably be equally meh cos DR3 is a technological clusterfuck and Ryse is gonna be decent at best as oppose to crap as it looked at E3. Forza will probably do well but its pretty hard to do a driving game badly.

Guys, it doesn't matter if 50/100 makes more sense as a scoring average mathematically. What matters is the general point-range that most reviewers use to designate "average."

I completely agree that it's stupid that we have essentially 60-odd points that all mean "terrible." That doesn't change the fact that if a mainstream reviewer gives a game 60/100, they are more likely to mean "below average" rather than above.

I'm completely in favor of changing what review scores average out at. That doesn't mean I will look at a score of 60/100 right now and assume "above average" without the review specifically saying so.

More on topic: I'm not too surprised that the games aren't mind-shatteringly awesome. As long as at least one of them (probably Killzone) is pretty fun, I'm more than happy to play it until more games are released, which I doubt will be too long. I'm confident in my choice of a platform, and I specifically put money aside for it earlier in the year.

Shame about Killer Instinct. I won't pretend that the Xbox launch titles aren't awesome.

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